Interesting thought I had.

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  • Posts: 3,517
    lucylespian wrote:
    God is absurd, the whole concept of gos is absurd. Why would he swet us up to fail so badly at his rules, tehn punish us for so failing ?? Becasue he is insane that is why, I do believe I said that in one of my first posts on teh moving Train.
    Who told me that, well there are all these religions out there all claiming to be doing God's work, have been for a few thousand years now. I know, Iknow, you are going to say that religions are not God, but in reality mate, when your ass is nailed to the cross, or the falmes are licking around your feet, there is no difference.
    Wake up to yourself !!

    and that is only your opinion. and you are nobody. a speck of dirt on the arse of the world.
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    onelongsong wrote:
    man is flawed. man has greed. the prisons are full of men and women that cannot obey the law.

    Why can't they obey the law?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    onelongsong wrote:
    and that is only your opinion. and you are nobody. a speck of dirt on the arse of the world.

    That's right, and yet God is so fascinated by my every thought and action, yeah right !!
    Music is not a competetion.
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Why can't they obey the law?

    go to a prison and ask them. i have no trouble obeying the law.
  • Posts: 3,517
    lucylespian wrote:
    That's right, and yet God is so fascinated by my every thought and action, yeah right !!

    why would God give you a second thought? a wee bit arrogant are we?
  • Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    go to a prison and ask them. i have no trouble obeying the law.

    So, then you really have no idea.

    Seems your knowledge is quite limited.

    I got

    Men can't obey God's law
    Because they are imperfect
    Because you don't know why

    That's pretty limited knowledge. Or is this to avoid the obvious answer that God created man imperfect? And thus he is responsible.

    Either way, I still think you are wrong, there are much more complicated and sophisticated causal chains of bad behavior than that.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    onelongsong wrote:
    why would God give you a second thought? a wee bit arrogant are we?


    NAh ya tube, I'm paraphrasing the thoughts of teh Judeo-CHristian religions. As if I think that an entity powerful enough to create the universe cares whether I have a wank or not. I doubt that an entity that powerful could even percievie me, in their time-space referecen. It would be like me trying to spot a grain of sand from a fast moving car, never gonna happen.

    Just another reason to deduce that god does not exist, not an actual thought. You are teh one arrogant enough to think that God can be botehred to percieive you. Rememeber, every sparrwo falling etc etc, and all that crap !!

    HOe else is going to judge my entry to heaven though, compare me to a freaking camel ???
    Music is not a competetion.
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    What did I start?
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    So, then you really have no idea.

    Seems your knowledge is quite limited.

    I got

    Men can't obey God's law
    Because they are imperfect
    Because you don't know why

    That's pretty limited knowledge. Or is this to avoid the obvious answer that God created man imperfect? And thus he is responsible.

    Either way, I still think you are wrong, there are much more complicated and sophisticated causal chains of bad behavior than that.

    you didn't accept my answer that man is flawed so what more do you want? you've admitted many times that man is flawed. are you changing horses now? you've admitted you are nothing. if you have no soul; you are only water and dust. nothing more; nothing less. worthless dust. by your own admission. and that admission made in almost every thread you post on.

    mans purpose is to attain perfection and overcome the physical world. you were made with flaws for a reason.
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    onelongsong wrote:
    you didn't accept my answer that man is flawed so what more do you want? you've admitted many times that man is flawed. are you changing horses now? you've admitted you are nothing. if you have no soul; you are only water and dust. nothing more; nothing less. worthless dust. by your own admission. and that admission made in almost every thread you post on.

    mans purpose is to attain perfection and overcome the physical world. you were made with flaws for a reason.

    I accept that humans are flawed, but I don't accept your reason why. You didn't say why, you simply said go ask the prison inmates.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    ForestBrain wrote:
    What did I start?

    A ForestBrain Fire.
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    except by express written permission of ©gue_barium, the author.
  • Posts: 3,517
    lucylespian wrote:
    NAh ya tube, I'm paraphrasing the thoughts of teh Judeo-CHristian religions. As if I think that an entity powerful enough to create the universe cares whether I have a wank or not. I doubt that an entity that powerful could even percievie me, in their time-space referecen. It would be like me trying to spot a grain of sand from a fast moving car, never gonna happen.

    Just another reason to deduce that god does not exist, not an actual thought. You are teh one arrogant enough to think that God can be botehred to percieive you. Rememeber, every sparrwo falling etc etc, and all that crap !!

    HOe else is going to judge my entry to heaven though, compare me to a freaking camel ???

    and that's where you lost the plot mate. God isn't bothered to perceive me; i strive to attain oneness with him. we are but a speck of dust in this vehicle.
  • Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I accept that humans are flawed, but I don't accept your reason why. You didn't say why, you simply said go ask the prison inmates.

    read my last sentence. we are flawed so we can strive to attain perfection.
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    onelongsong wrote:
    and that's where you lost the plot mate. God isn't bothered to perceive me; i strive to attain oneness with him. we are but a speck of dust in this vehicle.

    You are "striving to attain oneness" with the dude who whipped up teh Cone nebula, and you reckon that I have lost the plot ansd suffer from arrogance ?? That's nice , dear !!

    Hey , tell me, just what doe "striving to attain oneness" mean in non space cadet talk anyway ??
    I mean, I'm sure that I am too spirtually stunted to get it, being from a lower plane and all, but give it a go !!
    Music is not a competetion.
  • Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    read my last sentence. we are flawed so we can strive to attain perfection.

    That may be the purpose, but what is the cause?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Posts: 460
    gue_barium wrote:
    A ForestBrain Fire.
    word.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • Posts: 3,326
    I think it would be very helpful in these discussions if everyone would define what they mean when they use the word "god." Every single one of these threads that we've had, people are talking right past one another because they all define god differently. If I'm talking about Yahweh and you're talking about a pantheon of pagan gods and someone else is talking about a force of nature, the conversation is never going to make any sense at all. People here are arguing about the rules in the bible with people who say their spirituality has little or nothing to do with the bible. What is the point in that? By the same token, if you're going to talk about something other than the god of Abraham, then it's up to you so clearly state what you mean, because the biblical god is what people in the west commonly think of when they hear the word.

    I believe there's much more to the universe(s) than the dimensions we can perceive measured in linear time, but I hesitate to use the word "god" for just this reason ... it leads to confusion.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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    hippiemom wrote:
    I think it would be very helpful in these discussions if everyone would define what they mean when they use the word "god." Every single one of these threads that we've had, people are talking right past one another because they all define god differently. If I'm talking about Yahweh and you're talking about a pantheon of pagan gods and someone else is talking about a force of nature, the conversation is never going to make any sense at all. People here are arguing about the rules in the bible with people who say their spirituality has little or nothing to do with the bible. What is the point in that? By the same token, if you're going to talk about something other than the god of Abraham, then it's up to you so clearly state what you mean, because the biblical god is what people in the west commonly think of when they hear the word.

    I believe there's much more to the universe(s) than the dimensions we can perceive measured in linear time, but I hesitate to use the word "god" for just this reason ... it leads to confusion.

    Why do you believe that "there's much more to the universe"?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Posts: 3,517
    lucylespian wrote:
    You are "striving to attain oneness" with the dude who whipped up teh Cone nebula, and you reckon that I have lost the plot ansd suffer from arrogance ?? That's nice , dear !!

    Hey , tell me, just what doe "striving to attain oneness" mean in non space cadet talk anyway ??
    I mean, I'm sure that I am too spirtually stunted to get it, being from a lower plane and all, but give it a go !!

    i bought a 3 year old filly that was never worked with. my goal is to train that horse to do the work i need done perfectly. she; like my other horses will obey voice commands and when she reaches the point of perfection; she will anticipate my needs and i won't need to make those voice commands. at that point; i am one with the horse. we ride as one; we work as one.
    can you understand that?
  • Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Why do you believe that "there's much more to the universe"?

    why do you believe there isn't?

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