"Loose Change" movie

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  • Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    Take a chill pill, or your gonna have a heart attack with all that stress. Just because someone thinks differently to you doesn't mean you need to jump down their throat.
    nah i'm doing just fine. thanks for your concern
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    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    You are right, there was terror...But it was not caused by terrorists...To me, it was the USA goverment, the military forces who did it. And as I said, it was the perfect excuse to attack any country Bush liked, specially if there was oil in it.

    Why would he choose Aghanistan then? If 9/11 really was a chance for Bush to pick any country to attack, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, why would he go there first.

    Loose change is so bad, I really do feel sorry for people who get sucked into believing it.
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    I'm not concerned. I'm just sick of the nastiness on here if someone says something that some of you don't agree with you jump straight on them and resort to name calling and stuff and to be honest i find it juvenile.
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    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Why would he choose Aghanistan then? If 9/11 really was a chance for Bush to pick any country to attack, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, why would he go there first.

    Loose change is so bad, I really do feel sorry for people who get sucked into believing it.

    If I remember correctly there was a major oil pipeline deal signed to pass through Afghanistan shortly after we installed their new gov't. That could be one reason.

    *EDIT*

    "The framework agreement defines legal mechanisms for setting up a consortium to build and operate the long-delayed US$3.2-billion natural gas pipeline, known as the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline, which would carry gas from energy-rich Turkmenistan to Pakistan. It would be one of the first major investment projects in Afghanistan in decades." Baglia Bukharbayeva "Pakistani, Turkmen, Afghan Leaders Sign US$3.2 Billion Pipeline Deal," Associated Press, December 27, 2002.


    Also, it was pretty obvious we had to attack Afghanistan if that is where Osama Bin Laden is/was. I don't think the American public would have gone for going right after Iraq before there was any evidence against them to sell the American public.
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    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Why would he choose Aghanistan then? If 9/11 really was a chance for Bush to pick any country to attack, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, why would he go there first.

    Loose change is so bad, I really do feel sorry for people who get sucked into believing it.

    They needed to build pipelines to carry gas and oil through Afganistan.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,579401,00.html
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    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    Did anybody watch this film yet??? It seems more like a documental, it´s about 9-11. It gives lots of real great proofs and confirms, at least to me, that all of that Terrorism attacks were pure crap...

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    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    look, a sheep...a lemming...whatever you want to call it...fall in line...good job.

    So, just so I get this right, someone stepping out of line from the official story is a sheep?

    I've had it wrong all of these years. I would also not think it is the "cool thing" to get on the 9/11 conspiracy bandwagon.
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    spiral out wrote:
    They needed to build pipelines to carry gas and oil through Afganistan.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,579401,00.html

    Oh ok, and the best way to do that was to crash planes into buildings and and kill 3,000+ people. Now I get it, makes perfect sense.
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    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Oh ok, and the best way to do that was to crash planes into buildings and and kill 3,000+ people. Now I get it, makes perfect sense.

    You asked what the reason for going to afganistan was and i told you.

    How you turn that into a reason to crash planes into buildings i don't know.
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  • Posts: 461
    spiral out wrote:
    You asked what the reason for going to afganistan was and i told you.

    How you turn that into a reason to crash planes into buildings i don't know.

    The OP made a comment that 9/11 was done by our gov't so that Bush could attack any country he likes.

    I asked why he would plan and execute 9/11 in order to attack Afghanistan?

    You respond: Originally Posted by spiral out
    They needed to build pipelines to carry gas and oil through Afganistan.

    It looks to me like you were suggesting 9/11 was an inside job in order to build pipeline in Afghanistan. I'm not sure why you are having a hard time understanding that.
  • Posts: 1,052
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    The OP made a comment that 9/11 was done by our gov't so that Bush could attack any country he likes.

    I asked why he would plan and execute 9/11 in order to attack Afghanistan?

    You respond: Originally Posted by spiral out
    They needed to build pipelines to carry gas and oil through Afganistan.

    It looks to me like you were suggesting 9/11 was an inside job in order to build pipeline in Afghanistan. I'm not sure why you are having a hard time understanding that.

    I am not suggesting 9/11 was an inside job no one knows the truth on that.

    Just stating the reason for invading afganistan. If it was really about osama the guy would be caught and dead by now.
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    So the real reason for invading Afghanistan was the pipeline?
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    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    So the real reason for invading Afghanistan was the pipeline?

    apparently. and i guess it also had nothing to do with the fact that afghanistan's ruling party supported the group who carried out the wtc attacks. but man, am i sure glad we have that pipline. at least now we are feeling a little bit of relief at the gas pumps.

    oh wait...
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    jeffbr wrote:
    JesusFuckingChrist. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

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    scot88 wrote:
    apparently. and i guess it also had nothing to do with the fact that afghanistan's ruling party supported the group who carried out the wtc attacks. but man, am i sure glad we have that pipline. at least now we are feeling a little bit of relief at the gas pumps.

    oh wait...

    it was never about relief at the gas pumps. it's always about the oil companies gaining access to a resource that they consider their own.
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    you make me sick. some bullshit propaganda video is by no means proof the US government and MILITARY forces were responsible for 9/11. its sad such garbage can brainwash young minds of this world

    First of all, you don´t make me sick. The thing that makes me sick is that while you and many others live your "American dream", thousand of people are dying because of the war "against terrorism" every single day ...my question is: and all the bombs, the violations, the turture, all those soldiers killing inocent people everyday "in the name of God"...do this generate "terror" or not?. I don´t think war is the way to save any country around the world.
    And believe me, I don´t need to watch a movie to have an opinion...what I think about the Bush administration exceeds any movie or propaganda. Maybe you should check the effects of the propaganda on you, the american people...Don´t you see it? The US economy was falling down when all this "terrorism" thing came up, war was the perfect business...But the goverment tells you "we have to end with terrorism", and who are the terrorism? First was Osama Bin Laden, who never was found. Then Saddam, who apparently had massive attack weapons in his country...did you even find ONE weapon of this type??? ask to your President...And remember: two countries are destroyed and with civil war for a very long time. The war, unfortunately, is NOT over.

    PS:And please, if someone thinks different don´t insult them...it´s just a point of view.it´s called "RESPECT"

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  • Posts: 8,005
    I saw a documentary on 'Loose Change'.

    Apparently many of its assumptions have been proven false - like the flight path of one of the planes, for example - but I don't know anything beyond that.
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    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    First of all, you don´t make me sick. The thing that makes me sick is that while you and many others live your "American dream", thousand of people are dying because of the war "against terrorism" every single day ...my question is: and all the bombs, the violations, the turture, all those soldiers killing inocent people everyday "in the name of God"...do this generate "terror" or not?. I don´t think war is the way to save any country around the world.
    I respect your opinion to oppose war. but what makes me sick is when people like you see that documentary and come on here posting that George Bush and his associates (you even went as far as saying the military) are DIRECTLY responsible, (planning and execution) for the attacks on 9/11

    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    And believe me, I don´t need to watch a movie to have an opinion...what I think about the Bush administration exceeds any movie or propaganda. Maybe you should check the effects of the propaganda on you, the american people...Don´t you see it?

    what propaganda? is everything on TV in this free country considered propaganda?
    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    The US economy was falling down when all this "terrorism" thing came up, war was the perfect business...


    the stock market took over 3 years to recover from 9/11. the airline business took 5. but somehow Bush devised this plan on 9/11 to "save" our failing economy? and just so you know, this terrorism thing came up about 30 years ago.

    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    But the goverment tells you "we have to end with terrorism", and who are the terrorism? First was Osama Bin Laden, who never was found. Then Saddam, who apparently had massive attack weapons in his country...did you even find ONE weapon of this type??? ask to your President...And remember: two countries are destroyed and with civil war for a very long time. The war, unfortunately, is NOT over.
    yea I agree war sucks.
    thelowlightargentina wrote:
    PS:And please, if someone thinks different don´t insult them...it´s just a point of view.it´s called "RESPECT"

    Thanks
    sorry I have no respect for someone who comes on here preaching that some bullshit movie like loose change is 100% true and all fact. 9/11 is a very emotion issue for me, I do not take it lightly
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry I have no respect for someone who comes on here preaching that some bullshit movie like loose change is 100% true and all fact. 9/11 is a very emotion issue for me, I do not take it lightly
    So you're saying you cannot respect someone who has a completely different view from your own?
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