You're a logical person. If you seek money, but cling to poverty, how do you feel you will find money? And likewise, while clinging to hatred, how will that bring forgiveness?
Rather than a purging of feelings, it sounds more like you would be choosing to perpetuate the bad feelings. I agree with baraka--forgiveness is not a religious concept, it's a human concept.
Conceptually, I think I agree with both you and Baraka. But the reality is that if anyone harmed either of my kids, concepts go out the window. I would hunt them down and punish them. I can accept that it is a personal weakness.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Conceptually, I think I agree with both you and Baraka. But the reality is that if anyone harmed either of my kids, concepts go out the window. I would hunt them down and punish them. I can accept that it is a personal weakness.
It's not a wonder that many of us respond emotionally, since our emotions are more deeply ingrained in terms of brain functions, and when we are stressed, the first thing to go out the window is our later-evolved brain function of reasoning.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
but sadly war has been happening since the beginning of mankind. its something that will never go away. there will always be crazy poeple like bin laden or hitler who will bring war to people who dont want it.
What about George Bush in Irak?
And please remember that the Osama Bin Laden´s family have a very close relation with the Bush family...I´m talking about money and oil bussiness
watching your best friend's life be permanently fucked up because he lost a parent in 9/11 will make you support a war fairly quickly. and you would never support a war? how about fighting the nazis?
Imagine yourself as a man from Irak. One day, you wake up and all this bombs are falling down, your country ss burning everywhere. The reasons? Your president have serious plans to attack USA. Then the US army comes, destroys everything and...oh!!! the massive attack weapons...no, there aren´t.
How would you feel about USA goverment? I guess there are not too many differences with the nazis. The terrorists are everywhere.
I guess there are not too many differences with the nazis. The terrorists are everywhere.
You need to quit while you're behind because now your analogy has turned fucking stupid. Play the Nazi card where it isn't warranted, and totally kill a thread. Well done, kid.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
You need to quit while you're behind because now your analogy has turned fucking stupid. Play the Nazi card where it isn't warranted, and totally kill a thread. Well done, kid.
I didn´t say you or the entire USA people were nazi. I was trying to say that if you lived in Irak and the war destroyed your entire country and your way of life you would see to those who attack you like the jewish people saw the nazis in the II world war.
PS: and please try to stay calm...maybe you are upset because I said something wrong but you don´t need to use that words.
I didn´t say you or the entire USA people were nazi. I was trying to say that if you lived in Irak and the war destroyed your entire country and your way of life you would see to those who attack you like the jewish people saw the nazis in the II world war.
I still maintain that the analogy is weak and unfounded.
PS: and please try to stay calm...maybe you are upset because I said something wrong but you don´t need to use that words.
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I'm quite calm. I just get annoyed when people throw around Nazi comparisons. This has always killed threads on the Internet, and had been used by people with weak arguments simply for dramatic effect. I guess "fucking stupid" was a dramatic response to that.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Imagine yourself as a man from Irak. One day, you wake up and all this bombs are falling down, your country ss burning everywhere. The reasons? Your president have serious plans to attack USA. Then the US army comes, destroys everything and...oh!!! the massive attack weapons...no, there aren´t.
How would you feel about USA goverment? I guess there are not too many differences with the nazis. The terrorists are everywhere.
i'd love to retort, but i honestly can't understand what you are getting at.
As far as I can see, there are some serious problems in what I´m trying to say here. I don´t speak english very good, and I think some of my ideas I´m trying to express can´t catch their real meaning.
All that I can say is that my thoughts are not product of what I saw in that movie. Let´s say it´s pure b*llshit. But since that tragic day and beyond I always doubt about every step that Bush took....
And please sorry, I´m an idiot and you are the bright one, I´m sure you were the one that supported war against Afganistan to kill Osama Bin Laden and you could never find him. Anyway, let´s destroy and kill everyone in there...just to be sure of.
you were the one that supported war in Irak because they had massive attack weapons and you could never find not even ONE. Anyway, let´s destroy every building, every single part of their culture and kill people every single day since this nightmare started...just in case they have those "weapons".
And now Iran, with their nuclear bombs and evil plans to destroy the world. Are you sure that in USA there aren´t any nuclear bomb?
All that I want to say is this: let´s put ourselves in the other´s place. Justice must be for all, not for some.
Just because I treat a completely unjustified and undevidenced conspiracy theory with the contempt it deserves, why do you leap to the conclusion that I am some kind of right wing neo-con nut job who supports the foreign policy of the Bush administration? One does not logically follow from the other and you've no evidence whatsoever on which to conclude I supprt those policies. This is an intersting example of how you think about things and its that kind of rash leap to conclusions that are not supported by evidence that is why you put stock in a steaming pile of sh8t like Loose Change.
For the record I did not support the bombing of Aghanistan and was positively opposed to the invasion to Iraq from the very beginning (and took part in the staged protest that marched through London).
I agree with this statement. And I think it goes for both sides, for people who adopt this conspiracy theory without asking any questions and for people who adopt the official story without asking any questions.
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Conceptually, I think I agree with both you and Baraka. But the reality is that if anyone harmed either of my kids, concepts go out the window. I would hunt them down and punish them. I can accept that it is a personal weakness.
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What about George Bush in Irak?
And please remember that the Osama Bin Laden´s family have a very close relation with the Bush family...I´m talking about money and oil bussiness
I´m wondering which is your favourite TV channel...It must be CNN
Imagine yourself as a man from Irak. One day, you wake up and all this bombs are falling down, your country ss burning everywhere. The reasons? Your president have serious plans to attack USA. Then the US army comes, destroys everything and...oh!!! the massive attack weapons...no, there aren´t.
How would you feel about USA goverment? I guess there are not too many differences with the nazis. The terrorists are everywhere.
You need to quit while you're behind because now your analogy has turned fucking stupid. Play the Nazi card where it isn't warranted, and totally kill a thread. Well done, kid.
I didn´t say you or the entire USA people were nazi. I was trying to say that if you lived in Irak and the war destroyed your entire country and your way of life you would see to those who attack you like the jewish people saw the nazis in the II world war.
PS: and please try to stay calm...maybe you are upset because I said something wrong but you don´t need to use that words.
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I still maintain that the analogy is weak and unfounded.
I'm quite calm. I just get annoyed when people throw around Nazi comparisons. This has always killed threads on the Internet, and had been used by people with weak arguments simply for dramatic effect. I guess "fucking stupid" was a dramatic response to that.
i'm not attacking you, i'm just saying.
Just because I treat a completely unjustified and undevidenced conspiracy theory with the contempt it deserves, why do you leap to the conclusion that I am some kind of right wing neo-con nut job who supports the foreign policy of the Bush administration? One does not logically follow from the other and you've no evidence whatsoever on which to conclude I supprt those policies. This is an intersting example of how you think about things and its that kind of rash leap to conclusions that are not supported by evidence that is why you put stock in a steaming pile of sh8t like Loose Change.
For the record I did not support the bombing of Aghanistan and was positively opposed to the invasion to Iraq from the very beginning (and took part in the staged protest that marched through London).
I'm in 100% agreement.