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    angelica wrote:
    That Sarnia....it's a veritable Sodom and Gomorrah, it seems.

    Sin City. I've never been there, but I've heard a lot about it.
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Sin City. I've never been there, but I've heard a lot about it.
    Really? I seem to have a tendency to have boyfriends with families in Sarnia, and I've not really heard of it's dark-side. I did go to a communion in a church, there, a few years back, and then celebrated in a nice and expensive Victorian home.

    I guess you hang out with a different crowd than I do. :D
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    angelica wrote:
    Really? I seem to have a tendency to have boyfriends with families in Sarnia, and I've not really heard of it's dark-side. I did go to a communion in a church, there, a few years back, and then celebrated in a nice and expensive Victorian home.

    I guess you hang out with a different crowd than I do. :D

    I guess it was Windsor I was thinking of. I thought it first, but then put Sarnia.

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    If all-nude stip clubs and cigars are the standard for sin, then the Kitchener-Waterloo area is pretty sinful, itself.
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    angelica wrote:
    If all-nude stip clubs and cigars are the standard for sin, then the Kitchener-Waterloo area is pretty sinful, itself.

    No doubt, and what about Nevada?
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    No doubt, and what about Nevada?
    I can't even imagine partial nudity strip clubs!

    I'm not much up on Nevada since they cancelled the Geraldo show.
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    angelica wrote:
    I can't even imagine partial nudity strip clubs!

    I'm not much up on Nevada since they cancelled the Geraldo show.

    I'm pretty sure prostitution is legal in Nevada.
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm pretty sure prostitution is legal in Nevada.
    Yeah, I remember that from Geraldo...

    I have a friend who runs an "escort agency"--she lives in Oakville. We have a few around here, as well as massage parlours. I used to frequent a "phone line" here, and we all tended to hang out at strip clubs, so I guess I used to be part of the sin around these parts.... What an interesting group that was...those "alternative lifestyle" folk. And even though I was propositioned to work at escort agencies and massage parlours, I did stop short of that!
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    angelica wrote:
    Yeah, I remember that from Geraldo...

    I have a friend who runs an "escort agency"--she lives in Oakville. We have a few around here, as well as massage parlours. I used to frequent a "phone line" here, and we all tended to hang out at strip clubs, so I guess I used to be part of the sin around these parts.... What an interesting group that was...those "alternative lifestyle" folk. And even though I was propositioned to work at escort agencies and massage parlours, I did stop short of that!

    Those escorts are damn expensive. There is no way they are just there as escorts.
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm pretty sure prostitution is legal in Nevada.

    im completely bored and decided to wiki prostitution to see what it said... and it says this...

    "Regulated brothels are legal in several counties of Nevada (see prostitution in Nevada). In Rhode Island, the act of sex for money is not illegal, but street solicitation and operating a brothel are. The police departments in Canton, New Castle County, Peoria, Wichita, Arlington, and St.Paul post the photos of prostitutes and their clients on their websites."

    i find it strange that some police depts have a specific section of their website for pictures of prostitution offenders!
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Those escorts are damn expensive. There is no way they are just there as escorts.
    Yeah, your Windsor article talks about that. I was going to "interview" for a job in an escort agency, and it included going down and uh.....giving a test run to the proprieter. I thought I wanted to be an escort, but that idea was repulsive to me, and I backed out. At the time I was very "control oriented" (imagine that) and the idea of being an escort would have given me an illusion of control through my flagrant dysfunction. Not being "checked out" by my "pimp", though--that seemed degrading. .....

    That guy eventually became my friend on the phone line, and a few years back, he was arrested for child porn on the internet. I lost touch with him ten years ago, though, prior to his child porn era. He used to offer me money to come over and just hang out with him, fully clothed, while he "satisfied himself", though. Me among lots of women he propositioned. Needless to say (or not) I turned him down.

    Definitely, escort agencies and sensual massage parlours essentially do sexual acts, but they have ways of being legal about it. Such as, if I work as a waitress and a man gives me a tip and I then go home and have sex with him, no one can really do much about it. They are charging for the massage and the "escorting" not sex, don't you know.
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    angelica wrote:
    Yeah, your Windsor article talks about that. I was going to "interview" for a job in an escort agency, and it included going down and uh.....giving a test run to the proprieter. I thought I wanted to be an escort, but that idea was repulsive to me, and I backed out. At the time I was very "control oriented" (imagine that) and the idea of being an escort would have given me an illusion of control through my flagrant dysfunction. Not being "checked out" by my "pimp", though--that seemed degrading. .....

    That guy eventually became my friend on the phone line, and a few years back, he was arrested for child porn on the internet. I lost touch with him ten years ago, though, prior to his child porn era. He used to offer me money to come over and just hang out with him, fully clothed, while he "satisfied himself", though. Me among lots of women he propositioned. Needless to say (or not) I turned him down.

    Definitely, escort agencies and sensual massage parlours essentially do sexual acts, but they have ways of being legal about it. Such as, if I work as a waitress and a man gives me a tip and I then go home and have sex with him, no one can really do much about it. They are charging for the massage and the "escorting" not sex, don't you know.

    That's the thing though. Where is the guarantee? If I pay $500/hr for an escort, who's to guarantee she'll perform any "sexual acts". Scam artists.
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    xscorcho wrote:
    im completely bored and decided to wiki prostitution to see what it said... and it says this...

    "Regulated brothels are legal in several counties of Nevada (see prostitution in Nevada). In Rhode Island, the act of sex for money is not illegal, but street solicitation and operating a brothel are. The police departments in Canton, New Castle County, Peoria, Wichita, Arlington, and St.Paul post the photos of prostitutes and their clients on their websites."

    i find it strange that some police depts have a specific section of their website for pictures of prostitution offenders!

    Hey it's legal all over europe, why not?
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    That's the thing though. Where is the guarantee? If I pay $500/hr for an escort, who's to guarantee she'll perform any "sexual acts". Scam artists.
    You are 100% right. You are not contracting for sex for money. My understanding is that generally it happens, unless the girl gets an uneasy feeling. I was told that they support girls not doing anything that makes them uncomfortable. Or with anyone who makes them feel uncomfortable. But otherwise, it's totally understood it's about sex.

    If you go, I don't suggest you start talking about sexual deviants, and so forth...it might hamper your chances. :D
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    angelica wrote:
    You are 100% right. You are not contracting for sex for money. My understanding is that generally it happens, unless the girl gets an uneasy feeling. I was told that they support girls not doing anything that makes them uncomfortable. Or with anyone who makes them feel uncomfortable. But otherwise, it's totally understood it's about sex.

    If you go, I don't suggest you start talking about sexual deviants, and so forth...it might hamper your chances. :D

    Nah, it's way too expensive. A girl on the street offered me a deal for $20. I didn't take it of course, I said "You should be paying me." and I think it hurt her feelings.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Nah, it's way too expensive. A girl on the street offered me a deal for $20. I didn't take it of course, I said "You should be paying me." and I think it hurt her feelings.
    I don't doubt that you hurt her feelings.

    20 dollars...that must be some kind of deal. My guess is it was not for full sex. I'm thinking that at that price you might be supporting some kind of drug problem...
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    angelica wrote:
    I don't doubt that you hurt her feelings.

    20 dollars...that must be some kind of deal. My guess is it was not for full sex. I'm thinking that at that price you might be supporting some kind of drug problem...

    I'm pretty sure it was for drugs. She was spaced out, her eyes were shifty and she was rolling them back into her head while her body waved back and forth. Almost like a localized seizure or something.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm pretty sure it was for drugs. She was spaced out, her eyes were shifty and she was rolling them back into her head while her body waved back and forth. Almost like a localized seizure or something.
    That's too bad. :(
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Hey it's legal all over europe, why not?

    i think it should be legal (because i dont think its a big deal) which is why i find it weird that some police departments feel the need to post pictures of the prostitutes and johns on their websites.
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    xscorcho wrote:
    i think it should be legal (because i dont think its a big deal) which is why i find it weird that some police departments feel the need to post pictures of the prostitutes and johns on their websites.


    at times i too wonder why prostitution is illegal. and then i go all marxist and just put it down to the fact that the establishment can't really regulate the means of production, so to speak. cash changing hands. who is gonna account for all that? woman in control of themselves and having the upper hand? we can't have that now, can we? yes yes i know there are male prostitutes. :)
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