This kind of ideology doesn't speak well for our education system. I get this where I live... rural MO.... It's painful to listen to and consider how these viewpoints can come to light. You can't use a qualifier like "I'm not a racist...." and expect your belief to be taken seriously.
Don't you believe that Obama considers his children's future like you would your own?
That's all you really have to consider when ignorant suspicions enter your belief system.
He's a human being with a family he loves...certainly he considers their future.
People with the name "Barack Hussain Obama" ought to be deported because that's not a 'merican name
So what's an *merican* name Jim Crow?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Get off the racist thing. Jeez. You're not listening.
I have no doubt Obama has the purest intention and I highly doubt he has any evil in mind. Now listen. I'm saying, he has sympathies. Which means he would trust someone he maybe shouldn't. These people work along side him and use him. Next thing you know you have an AlQuida as an adviser to the president. DO you people not read history? DO you think our country is impervious to the same old tactics? Wake up! Listen to what I'm saying and quit taking all that crap from it. You aren't commenting on my words at all. You're jumping on some strange bandwagon where anything someone says about someone who is a minority is a racist. That is racist! Damn! This has nothing to do with him being black or from another country. It has to do with his mind and/or the mind of those around him.
Can you honesty say that there is no chance he will knowing or unknowing open holes for the enemy? I think not.
If you guys aren't open minded enough to discuss the world around you and every point of history that shapes it, then I'm sorry I brought it up in the first place. I thought PJ fans were different than this.
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Saudi Arabia.
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Turkey.
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Jordan
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Pakistan
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and UAE
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
People with the name "Barack Hussain Obama" ought to be deported because that's not a 'merican name
Should we also deport all people with muslim names? Why stop there.
Let's make it easy and just deport all people who don't or fit that all-american look. Anyone caught with a blonde dye job or blue contact lens are to be killed as terrorists imposters instead of being deported.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
Should we also deport all people with muslim names? Why stop there.
Let's make it easy and just deport all people who don't or fit that all-american look. Anyone caught with a blonde dye job or blue contact lens are to be killed as terrorists imposters instead of being deported.
I would really not mind at all...
You said it not me!
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
There'd be no one left to hate but the person in the mirror on someone who looks just like you. There would be no one to blame for anything but yourself.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
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There'd be no one left to hate but the person in the mirror on someone who looks just like you. There would be no one to blame for anything but yourself.
I was just going to say we should all leave and he'll be incharge and responsible for all that's needed for this country. I hope you'll be g under p (Grace Under Pressure).
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
There'd be no one left to hate but the person in the mirror on someone who looks just like you. There would be no one to blame for anything but yourself.
I see you've been watching too much Barney and Friends.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Can't stand someone who doesn't look American then?
What does an American look like? Sound like? Act like?
I think you should be the one deported because you obviously haven't a clue what it means to be an American.
Yeah!!! Multiculturalist universalism makes me feel so happy about my country, I just can't wait until the entire nation of Pakistan comes to live here it'll be so great and diverse!
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Okay, the guys comments were strange, but please!! Any of you who think Obama is good for this country are just as ignorant as him, buying into the heaps of propaganda and lies told to you by the media each and every day. Any of you who don't see that are just plain blind.
"I thought Pearl Jam fans were better than this."
That's probably the most ignorant comment I've read so far.
I disagree. Honestly, I hoped we could discuss this. I believe that a thing can only be understood when one understands that he does NOT understand. I do not consider anything I feel or think to be real. We base what we believe on things we have seen and experienced. If an individual sees and experiences unusual thing, he will develop unusal and often misguide perceptions. I am willing to consider my thoughts and feelings as incorrect so as to sharpen them. I honestly thought this was the one place I could come to do so. But instead of most of you trying to reason with me or make any kind of explanation of your own view on the matter, you all attack me, call me an asshole and that I am ignorant and am generally the problem with this country. It is very disappointing. I could have come in with this view and left with one completely different, but I won't.
Maybe I have an issue with explaining myself. But I am blown away by your responses. I can't believe you can't at least accept what I've said as a vaild concern. I am not talking about his name. This is not as superficial as judging someone based on a name. I don't care if his name was Jeff Smith. Maybe I could explain was I am saying better, but I'm not going to try. I haven't yet read the next couple of pages on this topic so maybe I'll yet be surprised if someone wants to discuss something and try to reason instead of be hateful. I gaurantee if we were face to face we would jive or at least walk away respecting the other's view.
I am thus far surprised by your general sense of "what is".
-Jeremy
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I disagree. Honestly, I hoped we could discuss this. I believe that a thing can only be understood when one understands that he does NOT understand. I do not consider anything I feel or think to be real. We base what we believe on things we have seen and experienced. If an individual sees and experiences unusual thing, he will develop unusal and often misguide perceptions. I am willing to consider my thoughts and feelings as incorrect so as to sharpen them. I honestly thought this was the one place I could come to do so. But instead of most of you trying to reason with me or make any kind of explanation of your own view on the matter, you all attack me, call me an asshole and that I am ignorant and am generally the problem with this country. It is very disappointing. I could have come in with this view and left with one completely different, but I won't.
Maybe I have an issue with explaining myself. But I am blown away by your responses. I can't believe you can't at least accept what I've said as a vaild concern. I am not talking about his name. This is not as superficial as judging someone based on a name. I don't care if his name was Jeff Smith. Maybe I could explain was I am saying better, but I'm not going to try. I haven't yet read the next couple of pages on this topic so maybe I'll yet be surprised if someone wants to discuss something and try to reason instead of be hateful. I gaurantee if we were face to face we would jive or at least walk away respecting the other's view.
I am thus far surprised by your general sense of "what is".
Those who feel the need to clarify that they're not a racist usually are. Make your point and move forward. I'm sure our intelligence has checked him out thoroughly and he is in Congress which is not too far from the Presidency.
I'm not a supporter of either candidate but this is one weakass reason to NOT vote for OHB. So if his name was Jim Brown I gather you'd be satisfied with voting for him then and not the issues he stands for, RIGHT!
That guy you quoted was being sarcastic and I believe he was referring to you. Anyway I'm glad you came back and posted further your thoughts on BHO. Most peeps who do and when the board's responses doesn't follow their thread's ideals they run away and hide.
You've stated he has sympathies, like what and to whom? More clarification is needed. Are you saying that those sympathies whatever they're are going to influence those he chooses to be part of his administration?
He can choose whomever he wishes, whether or not they use him or not is another story. However it seems we've had that situation already with our current President and Mini-Me Dick Cheney. He seems to pull strings, mouth of and pulls triggers and no one seems to bat an eye. Obama just will need to say the buck stops here and he's worthy he should do just that.
Besides there should be no worries about BHO cause if he gets out of hand (too heavily influenced by his advisers) he can be taken out if the powers that want to. We've had a successful scenario in like that in our past.
You know I went and took a look at my comments to your quotes and while writing I got the feeling you could've written what you wanted to say more clearly. It came across as trying to in site those who may want to post their dissolution with Obama.
Again I've got to give you credit for coming back in the storm of criticism to post what's going on with your thoughts on Obama. So what sympathies were you referring to, I'm not sure if you gave an answer to that question?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I am thus far surprised by your general sense of "what is".
you want to discuss this? fine:
Is Obama safe? Is a man with his background and whoever may have influenced him and was raised with him or in close company with him...is this man safe as our leader? What I mean is, After more than 200 years of presidents, our very next one after a large event involving Muslims (9-11) could be a man named Osama Hussein Barack. Maybe I'm a boneheaded middle-American, but it seems fishy to me.
you clearly base your argument on his name right here. Other than the fact that you wrote his entire name wrong, you have provided no argument worth discussing...
let's move along, shall we:
I'd have to pass on a vote for him just to be safe. I mean, for the most part, whoever is president, things are gonna go the way they are gonna go...why chance putting a man like this and those who will be his advisers in power? I'm not being racist here.
just to be safe? what does this even mean? throughout your entire post you don't even describe or define what you mean by 'safe'. do you think McCain's America will be 'safe'? what is safe for you? why is Obama not 'safe'? what he has he said or done?
you have no argument. there's nothing to discuss until you start answering these questions, which I doubt you'll do. thanks for trying though.
This may be old news, but I've been away for a while.
Your comments? Is Obama safe? Is a man with his background and whoever may have influenced him and was raised with him or in close company with him...is this man safe as our leader? What I mean is, After more than 200 years of presidents, our very next one after a large event involving Muslims (9-11) could be a man named Osama Hussein Barack. Maybe I'm a boneheaded middle-American, but it seems fishy to me.
I'd have to pass on a vote for him just to be safe. I mean, for the most part, whoever is president, things are gonna go the way they are gonna go...why chance putting a man like this and those who will be his advisers in power? I'm not being racist here.
i see you drank the sand you were told was water because you didnt know the difference.
Terrorists have been growing up in the country. There are extremists being raised here. They are getting jobs and voting. Hundred if not thousands of them. If I was calling the shots in the terrorist organization, I would try to get my people quietly in power in the US. This is a fact and should be considered. What if this is the one? And we vote him right into the big seat all by ourselves? I mean, what are the chances that at this point in time a foreign born Muslim-educated man would be running for president?
i see the no progress native from indiana didnt have a black man on his progress schedule yet. could you post a copy of when that will happen?
Probably a good idea to keep up on what's going on in your homeland when you're away.
And three points I want to re-clarify:
1. he is not Muslim.
2. not all Muslim's are terrorists anyway
3. he was born in Hawaii
You have to realize that "Nobamans" say this sort of thing ALL the time. Especially using his name as a justification. It's not surprise that you used his full name as your subject. It is TOTALLY a concern of yours and I can be empathetic, but you have to do research and not base your opinions on what Pearl Jam fans say. You must go read Obama's books, go to his website, watch him speak on Youtube. You have to understand who he is, just as you have to understand who McCain is.
For the future though, keep in mind that Obama supporters feel as though the entire country should be passed this view of him that he is going to kill all Americans and he's secretly a terrorist or that he's lying about being a Muslim.
You've been out of town, so did you see about all the commotion that was raised when he and his wife gave eachother "a pound" on television? They did the same thing me and my grandfather do everyday. Things kids do. And people who make comments like you just did, said that it was a "terrorist bump." It is so sad in a dissappointing sort of way. Please go get familiar with who he is and what he stands for.
Probably a good idea to keep up on what's going on in your homeland when you're away.
And two points I want to re-clarify:
1. he is not Muslim.
2. not all Muslim's are terrorists anyway
3. he was born in Hawaii
So friggin sad in an awfully dissappointed sort of way.
Read a book.
Ooooo, Obama was born in Hawaii. Ever been to Hawaii? Those people don't even realize that they're in America. Except when they receive welfare checks from the USA's IRS.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Ooooo, Obama was born in Hawaii. Ever been to Hawaii? Those people don't even realize that they're in America. Except when they receive welfare checks from the USA's IRS.
It is people like you who cause people like us to jump down WickedJeremy's throat.
Ooooo, Obama was born in Hawaii. Ever been to Hawaii? Those people don't even realize that they're in America. Except when they receive welfare checks from the USA's IRS.
:rolleyes:
What a ridiculous thing to say. Seriously. Do you feel better about yourself when you are putting other people down?
Ooooo, Obama was born in Hawaii. Ever been to Hawaii? Those people don't even realize that they're in America. Except when they receive welfare checks from the USA's IRS.
That statement would only be relevant if Obama had ever lived on a welfare check. He obviously cares and realizes he lives in America enough to run for the freaken President of the United States. I don't know what more awareness of being an American citizen you can have than that.
You got a grudge or something? Need to let something out?
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Good point....
John Wayne Gacy was a pedophile and a killer...
Perhaps John McCain is the same...they do share a name..
Don't you believe that Obama considers his children's future like you would your own?
That's all you really have to consider when ignorant suspicions enter your belief system.
He's a human being with a family he loves...certainly he considers their future.
-Enoch Powell
So what's an *merican* name Jim Crow?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
...it should be obvious, but it's not..."
"because it's fucked up... fucked up"
Ooooo you got me there.
Any state name like Kansas, Virginia, or Tex (short for Texas).
Barack Obama is foreign. He's not an American.
-Enoch Powell
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Saudi Arabia.
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Turkey.
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Jordan
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and Pakistan
For all that you have written, explain Bush, Cheney and UAE
For all that you have written, explain this policy http://www.gazetteonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080729/NEWS/894948276
Should we also deport all people with muslim names? Why stop there.
Let's make it easy and just deport all people who don't or fit that all-american look. Anyone caught with a blonde dye job or blue contact lens are to be killed as terrorists imposters instead of being deported.
I would really not mind at all...
You said it not me!
-Enoch Powell
There'd be no one left to hate but the person in the mirror on someone who looks just like you. There would be no one to blame for anything but yourself.
I was just going to say we should all leave and he'll be incharge and responsible for all that's needed for this country. I hope you'll be g under p (Grace Under Pressure).
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I see you've been watching too much Barney and Friends.
-Enoch Powell
You bet yer ass, Baby Bop
-Enoch Powell
Wow! Really?
Can't stand someone who doesn't look American then?
What does an American look like? Sound like? Act like?
I think you should be the one deported because you obviously haven't a clue what it means to be an American.
Yeah!!! Multiculturalist universalism makes me feel so happy about my country, I just can't wait until the entire nation of Pakistan comes to live here it'll be so great and diverse!
-Enoch Powell
I'll attempt to ignore.
Thanks.
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Maybe I have an issue with explaining myself. But I am blown away by your responses. I can't believe you can't at least accept what I've said as a vaild concern. I am not talking about his name. This is not as superficial as judging someone based on a name. I don't care if his name was Jeff Smith. Maybe I could explain was I am saying better, but I'm not going to try. I haven't yet read the next couple of pages on this topic so maybe I'll yet be surprised if someone wants to discuss something and try to reason instead of be hateful. I gaurantee if we were face to face we would jive or at least walk away respecting the other's view.
I am thus far surprised by your general sense of "what is".
You know I went and took a look at my comments to your quotes and while writing I got the feeling you could've written what you wanted to say more clearly. It came across as trying to in site those who may want to post their dissolution with Obama.
Again I've got to give you credit for coming back in the storm of criticism to post what's going on with your thoughts on Obama. So what sympathies were you referring to, I'm not sure if you gave an answer to that question?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
let's move along, shall we: just to be safe? what does this even mean? throughout your entire post you don't even describe or define what you mean by 'safe'. do you think McCain's America will be 'safe'? what is safe for you? why is Obama not 'safe'? what he has he said or done?
you have no argument. there's nothing to discuss until you start answering these questions, which I doubt you'll do. thanks for trying though.
i see you drank the sand you were told was water because you didnt know the difference.
And three points I want to re-clarify:
1. he is not Muslim.
2. not all Muslim's are terrorists anyway
3. he was born in Hawaii
You have to realize that "Nobamans" say this sort of thing ALL the time. Especially using his name as a justification. It's not surprise that you used his full name as your subject. It is TOTALLY a concern of yours and I can be empathetic, but you have to do research and not base your opinions on what Pearl Jam fans say. You must go read Obama's books, go to his website, watch him speak on Youtube. You have to understand who he is, just as you have to understand who McCain is.
For the future though, keep in mind that Obama supporters feel as though the entire country should be passed this view of him that he is going to kill all Americans and he's secretly a terrorist or that he's lying about being a Muslim.
You've been out of town, so did you see about all the commotion that was raised when he and his wife gave eachother "a pound" on television? They did the same thing me and my grandfather do everyday. Things kids do. And people who make comments like you just did, said that it was a "terrorist bump." It is so sad in a dissappointing sort of way. Please go get familiar with who he is and what he stands for.
Ooooo, Obama was born in Hawaii. Ever been to Hawaii? Those people don't even realize that they're in America. Except when they receive welfare checks from the USA's IRS.
-Enoch Powell
It is people like you who cause people like us to jump down WickedJeremy's throat.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Seriously. Do you feel better about yourself when you are putting other people down?
You got a grudge or something? Need to let something out?