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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    J, I know why you're asking, but I don't think it's Jeanie's place to answer this.

    She's been as fooled as everyone. It's not her job.


    she was extremely cut up about all of this... and no wonder... if indeed it is OLS who contacted Angelica then i'm pretty sure he would have contacted Jeanie also? or if it is him then why be in constant contact with someone and then after recovering from his hospital visit would he NOT contact Jeanie.. but contact Angelica who he had not made any contact with in 2 years (or thereabouts)

    i'm more confused than pychosinlove ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    I sincerely hope this shit disappears before Oz wakes up.
    No support from me.
    Sorry.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • What the fuck? I'm not sure who I should ask to contact me first... OLS? Kat and Sea? God?
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  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    TrixieCat wrote:
    I sincerely hope this shit disappears before Oz wakes up.
    No support from me.
    Sorry.
    +1
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    well I hope no one thinks this was the wrong move but I just PMed Jeanie because this is fucked up and I don't know what to think and I consider her a friend on here so it seems stupid to just brush this under the carpet. Time to get to the bottom of this.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    well I hope no one thinks this was the wrong move but I just PMed Jeanie because this is fucked up and I don't know what to think and I consider her a friend on here so it seems stupid to just brush this under the carpet. Time to get to the bottom of this.
    Dealing with things brings them to resolution as opposed to denying them. :)
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  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    well I hope no one thinks this was the wrong move but I just PMed Jeanie because this is fucked up and I don't know what to think and I consider her a friend on here so it seems stupid to just brush this under the carpet. Time to get to the bottom of this.
    I was hoping this would disappear before she saw it.
    Thankfully, she has many people here that love her and care about her.
    And to the op: denying things??? Like what??
    Please delete this thread.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    angelica wrote:
    Dealing with things brings them to resolution as opposed to denying them. :)
    I just don't think that Jeanie has to be the one to resolve this. It's not down to her. She went through enough at the time.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    I just don't think that Jeanie has to be the one to resolve this. It's not down to her. She went through enough at the time.
    I agree that it's not Jeanie's responsibility. I don't ask her to resolve anything. Unless she actively fooled us, which I doubt.

    What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.

    It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.

    edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Time to get to the bottom of this.
    ...
    It's really pretty simple...
    Do you know Allen's Full Name?
    Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
    Do you know the date of his death?
    ...
    Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    angelica wrote:
    I agree that it's not Jeanie's responsibility. I don't ask her to resolve anything. Unless she actively fooled us, which I doubt.

    What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.

    It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.

    edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.
    I know everyone wants resolution. I just think that a bit of sensitivity is lacking here. We all know how Jeanie was affected at the time. The last thing she needs is to be hassled while she comes to term with this.

    How do we know that she knew any different from the rest of us?

    We all read Jeanies posts. She's a good person. She doesn't need this right now.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    angelica wrote:
    I agree that it's not Jeanie's responsibility. I don't ask her to resolve anything. Unless she actively fooled us, which I doubt.

    What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.

    It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.

    edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.

    Yeah, I really do have Jeanie's best interests at heart here. I was never close to Allen but talked to him a few times over the last few months before he left us and spoke to Jeanie quite a bit since then.
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    It's really pretty simple...
    Do you know Allen's Full Name?
    Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
    Do you know the date of his death?
    ...
    Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.
    I don't personally but if anyone else does, such a check might not be a bad idea.

    If anyone wants to flag this thread and get Kat and Sea to delete it, it might not be a bad idea. I have PMed Jeanie and I'm sure a few others have too so the thread probably doesn't serve any purpose beyond speculation.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    It's really pretty simple...
    Do you know Allen's Full Name?
    Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
    Do you know the date of his death?
    ...
    Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.

    I know he resided in Arizona.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,220
    this thread should be deleted not enough info to pass judgement on anything ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    The thread also serves a purpose in having the truth come out, since many many fellow board members were hurt by the supposed passing of a friend. Anyone who was touched by this incident deserves to know what's come out, and to express their feelings on the subject.

    Denial is not our friend.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    angelica wrote:
    The thread also serves a purpose in having the truth come out, since many many fellow board members were hurt by the supposed passing of a friend. Anyone who was touched by this incident deserves to know what's come out, and to express their feelings on the subject.

    Denial is not our friend.


    totally agree :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I don't personally but if anyone else does, such a check might not be a bad idea.
    ...
    Acutally... the quickest and most reliable source would be the mortuary that handled the funeral. If anyone know the mortuary, a direct query will put this whole mess to rest.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    angelica wrote:
    The thread also serves a purpose in having the truth come out, since many many fellow board members were hurt by the supposed passing of a friend. Anyone who was touched by this incident deserves to know what's come out, and to express their feelings on the subject.

    Denial is not our friend.
    Truth?
    You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
    To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
    Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
    And keep Jeanie out of this.
    Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Close the fucking thread.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • urbanhippie
    urbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    TrixieCat wrote:
    Truth?
    You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
    To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
    Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
    And keep Jeanie out of this.
    Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
    A-fucking-men
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