J, I know why you're asking, but I don't think it's Jeanie's place to answer this.
She's been as fooled as everyone. It's not her job.
she was extremely cut up about all of this... and no wonder... if indeed it is OLS who contacted Angelica then i'm pretty sure he would have contacted Jeanie also? or if it is him then why be in constant contact with someone and then after recovering from his hospital visit would he NOT contact Jeanie.. but contact Angelica who he had not made any contact with in 2 years (or thereabouts)
i'm more confused than pychosinlove
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
What the fuck? I'm not sure who I should ask to contact me first... OLS? Kat and Sea? God?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
well I hope no one thinks this was the wrong move but I just PMed Jeanie because this is fucked up and I don't know what to think and I consider her a friend on here so it seems stupid to just brush this under the carpet. Time to get to the bottom of this.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
well I hope no one thinks this was the wrong move but I just PMed Jeanie because this is fucked up and I don't know what to think and I consider her a friend on here so it seems stupid to just brush this under the carpet. Time to get to the bottom of this.
Dealing with things brings them to resolution as opposed to denying them.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
well I hope no one thinks this was the wrong move but I just PMed Jeanie because this is fucked up and I don't know what to think and I consider her a friend on here so it seems stupid to just brush this under the carpet. Time to get to the bottom of this.
I was hoping this would disappear before she saw it.
Thankfully, she has many people here that love her and care about her.
And to the op: denying things??? Like what??
Please delete this thread.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
I just don't think that Jeanie has to be the one to resolve this. It's not down to her. She went through enough at the time.
I agree that it's not Jeanie's responsibility. I don't ask her to resolve anything. Unless she actively fooled us, which I doubt.
What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.
It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.
edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
...
It's really pretty simple...
Do you know Allen's Full Name?
Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
Do you know the date of his death?
...
Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I agree that it's not Jeanie's responsibility. I don't ask her to resolve anything. Unless she actively fooled us, which I doubt.
What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.
It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.
edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.
I know everyone wants resolution. I just think that a bit of sensitivity is lacking here. We all know how Jeanie was affected at the time. The last thing she needs is to be hassled while she comes to term with this.
How do we know that she knew any different from the rest of us?
We all read Jeanies posts. She's a good person. She doesn't need this right now.
I agree that it's not Jeanie's responsibility. I don't ask her to resolve anything. Unless she actively fooled us, which I doubt.
What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.
It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.
edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.
Yeah, I really do have Jeanie's best interests at heart here. I was never close to Allen but talked to him a few times over the last few months before he left us and spoke to Jeanie quite a bit since then.
...
It's really pretty simple...
Do you know Allen's Full Name?
Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
Do you know the date of his death?
...
Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.
I don't personally but if anyone else does, such a check might not be a bad idea.
If anyone wants to flag this thread and get Kat and Sea to delete it, it might not be a bad idea. I have PMed Jeanie and I'm sure a few others have too so the thread probably doesn't serve any purpose beyond speculation.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
...
It's really pretty simple...
Do you know Allen's Full Name?
Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
Do you know the date of his death?
...
Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.
I know he resided in Arizona.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
The thread also serves a purpose in having the truth come out, since many many fellow board members were hurt by the supposed passing of a friend. Anyone who was touched by this incident deserves to know what's come out, and to express their feelings on the subject.
Denial is not our friend.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
The thread also serves a purpose in having the truth come out, since many many fellow board members were hurt by the supposed passing of a friend. Anyone who was touched by this incident deserves to know what's come out, and to express their feelings on the subject.
Denial is not our friend.
totally agree
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I don't personally but if anyone else does, such a check might not be a bad idea.
...
Acutally... the quickest and most reliable source would be the mortuary that handled the funeral. If anyone know the mortuary, a direct query will put this whole mess to rest.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
The thread also serves a purpose in having the truth come out, since many many fellow board members were hurt by the supposed passing of a friend. Anyone who was touched by this incident deserves to know what's come out, and to express their feelings on the subject.
Denial is not our friend.
Truth?
You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
And keep Jeanie out of this.
Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Truth?
You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
And keep Jeanie out of this.
Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
Truth?
You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
And keep Jeanie out of this.
Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
honestly this looks like a kids playground but then who am i to talk with the signature that i've got :rolleyes: but still, i'm sure somewhere along the lines there was a communication breakdown. which cause all this shit, that's happening now and there is your answer plain and simple
Truth?
You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
And keep Jeanie out of this.
Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
That's the nail on the fucking head right there... I don't know why I didn't see it before.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Truth?
You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
And keep Jeanie out of this.
Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
Jeanie is my friend and I think she deserves to know that someone who she was very close to, someone that she was notified had died, just emailed another poster out of the blue to try to get back in good graces with the board. Jeanie was devastated by the 'death' of ols. Don't you think she deserves to know about this email? Also, I, as well as many others here were friends with ols. We were very saddened by the news of his passing. This is a shock to us as well.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Jeanie is my friend and I think she deserves to know that someone who she was very close to, someone that she was notified had died, just emailed another poster out of the blue to try to get back in good graces with the board. Jeanie was devastated by the 'death' of ols. Don't you think she deserves to know about this email? Also, I, as well as many others here were friends with ols. We were very saddened by the news of his passing. This is a shock to us as well.
I agree. I don't see the problem in informing us all about this new development.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Jeanie is my friend and I think she deserves to know that someone who she was very close to, someone that she was notified had died, just emailed another poster out of the blue to try to get back in good graces with the board. Jeanie was devastated by the 'death' of ols. Don't you think she deserves to know about this email? Also, I, as well as many others here were friends with ols. We were very saddened by the news of his passing. This is a shock to us as well.
This is not about keeping things underwraps. This is about hassling Jeanie over something that affected her deeply.
This is not about keeping things underwraps. This is about hassling Jeanie over something that affected her deeply.
She doesn't need all this.
i dont think anyone is hassling anyone... Jeanie needs to know this information... perhaps more so than anyone else on here.
I agree with Angelica and Abook... this needs cleared up and not swept under a rug like some dirty governmental secret...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Jeanie is my friend and I think she deserves to know that someone who she was very close to, someone that she was notified had died, just emailed another poster out of the blue to try to get back in good graces with the board. Jeanie was devastated by the 'death' of ols. Don't you think she deserves to know about this email? Also, I, as well as many others here were friends with ols. We were very saddened by the news of his passing. This is a shock to us as well.
yeah we were all very upset with the news of ols but most of us feel is that the original poster should of just gotten this info to jeanie 1st and formost before starting this thread ,to let her know in private about the email ....
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she was extremely cut up about all of this... and no wonder... if indeed it is OLS who contacted Angelica then i'm pretty sure he would have contacted Jeanie also? or if it is him then why be in constant contact with someone and then after recovering from his hospital visit would he NOT contact Jeanie.. but contact Angelica who he had not made any contact with in 2 years (or thereabouts)
i'm more confused than pychosinlove
No support from me.
Sorry.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Wembley 18/06/07
If there was a reason, it was you.
O2 Arena 18/09/09
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Thankfully, she has many people here that love her and care about her.
And to the op: denying things??? Like what??
Please delete this thread.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Wembley 18/06/07
If there was a reason, it was you.
O2 Arena 18/09/09
What I mean about resolution is that the cat is out of the bag. There are lots of people who have been affected by this illusion of a death. And dealing with this is a process.
It seems to me the Jeremy is her friend, and I'm sure Jeanie can handle pms from well-intended friends. We're all in this together, although some have been much more affected than others.
edit: and if Jeanie is not up to answering friends, she doesn't have to until she can manage...the point it, her choices are hers alone, as are others, like Jeremy who answer to their own inner voice.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
It's really pretty simple...
Do you know Allen's Full Name?
Do you know which state he resided in at the time of his death?
Do you know the date of his death?
...
Check the obituaries. Actual death becomes public record.
Hail, Hail!!!
How do we know that she knew any different from the rest of us?
We all read Jeanies posts. She's a good person. She doesn't need this right now.
Wembley 18/06/07
If there was a reason, it was you.
O2 Arena 18/09/09
Yeah, I really do have Jeanie's best interests at heart here. I was never close to Allen but talked to him a few times over the last few months before he left us and spoke to Jeanie quite a bit since then. I don't personally but if anyone else does, such a check might not be a bad idea.
If anyone wants to flag this thread and get Kat and Sea to delete it, it might not be a bad idea. I have PMed Jeanie and I'm sure a few others have too so the thread probably doesn't serve any purpose beyond speculation.
I know he resided in Arizona.
Denial is not our friend.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
totally agree
Acutally... the quickest and most reliable source would be the mortuary that handled the funeral. If anyone know the mortuary, a direct query will put this whole mess to rest.
Hail, Hail!!!
You just said you got an email from him....what is your intent with this thread???
To get him back on the board? TO clear his good (burp) name????
Sorry...you should have pm'd this to Kat or Sea if that was the case.
And keep Jeanie out of this.
Email him back and ask for the truth, how about that?
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Wembley 18/06/07
If there was a reason, it was you.
O2 Arena 18/09/09
exactly you said it all here ....
honestly this looks like a kids playground but then who am i to talk with the signature that i've got :rolleyes: but still, i'm sure somewhere along the lines there was a communication breakdown. which cause all this shit, that's happening now
That's the nail on the fucking head right there... I don't know why I didn't see it before.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Yea, I bet that's going to clear this up.
Jeanie is my friend and I think she deserves to know that someone who she was very close to, someone that she was notified had died, just emailed another poster out of the blue to try to get back in good graces with the board. Jeanie was devastated by the 'death' of ols. Don't you think she deserves to know about this email? Also, I, as well as many others here were friends with ols. We were very saddened by the news of his passing. This is a shock to us as well.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I agree. I don't see the problem in informing us all about this new development.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
She doesn't need all this.
Wembley 18/06/07
If there was a reason, it was you.
O2 Arena 18/09/09
But what if it was all a hoax?
i dont think anyone is hassling anyone... Jeanie needs to know this information... perhaps more so than anyone else on here.
I agree with Angelica and Abook... this needs cleared up and not swept under a rug like some dirty governmental secret...
yeah we were all very upset with the news of ols but most of us feel is that the original poster should of just gotten this info to jeanie 1st and formost before starting this thread ,to let her know in private about the email ....