England under water: Scientists confirm global warming link to increased rain

jlew24asu wrote:

There is no proof that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from human activity. Ice core records from the past 650,000 years show that temperature increases have preceded—not resulted from—increases in CO2 by hundreds of years, suggesting that the warming of the oceans is an important source of the rise in atmospheric CO2. As the dominant greenhouse gas, water vapor is far, far more important than CO2. Dire predictions of future warming are based almost entirely on computer climate models, yet these models do not accurately understand the role or water vapor—and, in any case, water vapor is not within our control. Plus, computer models cannot account for the observed cooling of much of the past century (1940–75), nor for the observed patterns of warming—what we call the “fingerprints.” For example, the Antarctic is cooling while models predict warming. And where the models call for the middle atmosphere to warm faster than the surface, the observations show the exact opposite.

The best evidence supporting natural causes of temperature fluctuations are the changes in cloudiness, which correspond strongly with regular variations in solar activity. The current warming is likely part of a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that’s been traced back almost a million years. It accounts for the Medieval Warm Period around 1100 A.D., when the Vikings settled Greenland and grew crops, and the Little Ice Age, from about 1400 to 1850 A.D., which brought severe winters and cold summers to Europe, with failed harvests, starvation, disease, and general misery.

my2hands wrote:

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Hippyvik wrote:

Hey everyone, I'm sorry to break up the party, but the reason everwhere in England is flooding is purely due to over population. We are letting so many immigrants in to this country that there is not enough housing for them, therefore we have to build many more houses/flats to accomodate these people. A lot of it on flood plains. The immigrants then breed at an average rate of at least 3 children per family. Again, to accomodate these people we have to build yet more houses/flats. Rainfall has increased and so has square mileage of concrete due to housing and the fact that people need more parking and are too lazy to look after their gardens, so they pave them! Where does all this extra rainfall go, if there is now less soil for it to soak away to? The the Uk accounts for 0.5% of the planets landmass, yet has 0.6% of the worlds population on it. You do the math!

stu gee wrote:

As i said, im definitely not saying its a myth, but im not convinced it isnt either, and because we and the scientists who warn us about global warming have been here on this planet for nothing more than a dot in time in the grand scheme of things, i think its impossible for anyone to know anything for sure. Some scientists believe that the climate has risen and dropped now and again over the past whoever knows how many thousands of years, but i wouldnt entirely trust them either!

I not being ignorant or naive i dont think, and in our household we do our bit for the environment as much as possible by doing things like recycling all plastic and glass, not wasting electricity etc, but i dont think anyone is in a position to tell me that global warming is WITHOUT A DOUBT the cause of bad weather, regardless of the hundreds of year worth of records they might have at their disposal. That's a tiny amount of time. Again, dont anyone get all upset as if im dismissing global warming as a myth, im just saying no one knows for sure.

Hippyvik wrote:

Oh of course silly me, you're an expert aren't you, you live in......Chicago! How close is that to England, UK, NOT New England, USA?