England under water: Scientists confirm global warming link to increased rain

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  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    Hippyvik wrote:
    To be honest, I really don't think it matters what we do to try and compensate. Global warming will either completely or mostly wipe out the human race and then it will all start again. Mother natures way of cleansing the earth!

    The deal is, if we weren't spewing so many greenhouse gases into the air, global warming would be much more gradual, and manageable. I don't know if you missed the news, but the polar ice caps are melting. It is quite possible that the north pole will be ice free in the summer by the end of this century. Virtually all of the world's glaciers are melting. This is related to a significant warming of world temperatures, particularly at the poles and higher elevations. Yes, the world temperatures have fluctuated greatly througout time, but over a much longer period of time (with a few exceptions, like 65 million years ago, which was surely caused by a monster meteor impact.) Isn't all of this worth a shot at trying to at least slow down?

    Also, might I say that even if you, and others, don't believe in all of this global warming mumbo jumbo, then there are other very valid reasons for trying to curb CO2 emissions. These emissions include many other nasty chemicals, particulates, etc. that toxify the air we all breathe. Isn't that worth trying to cut emissions? We're talking mostly about cars and coal powered plants here.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Hippyvik wrote:
    Yeah, I see your point, but the actual flooding wouln't be anywhere near as bad if we weren' so over populated.

    i agree with you. over population changed natural run off. the cement and pavement covered ground that used to absorb water. as for the 1949 flood; look what's been done to make sure it doesn't happen again. you can't compare a flood that happened 58 years ago because so much has been done since then. we have freak storms everywhere. freak tsunamis; freak hurricanes; and the like.
    some prople think global warming is new. it's been building for at least 150 years. back then we didn't have the technology to monitor it and come to a realistic conclusion. now we do.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gabers wrote:
    The deal is, if we weren't spewing so many greenhouse gases into the air, global warming would be much more gradual, and manageable. I don't know if you missed the news, but the polar ice caps are melting. It is quite possible that the north pole will be ice free in the summer by the end of this century. Virtually all of the world's glaciers are melting. This is related to a significant warming of world temperatures, particularly at the poles and higher elevations. Yes, the world temperatures have fluctuated greatly througout time, but over a much longer period of time (with a few exceptions, like 65 million years ago, which was surely caused by a monster meteor impact.) Isn't all of this worth a shot at trying to at least slow down?

    Also, might I say that even if you, and others, don't believe in all of this global warming mumbo jumbo, then there are other very valid reasons for trying to curb CO2 emissions. These emissions include many other nasty chemicals, particulates, etc. that toxify the air we all breathe. Isn't that worth trying to cut emissions? We're talking mostly about cars and coal powered plants here.

    in 2000; the earths ice cover was the size of the us; in 2005; it would've covered the area west of the mississippi. i'm not sure if you follow the scientific discoveries concerning this but it was found that the ice is melting faster than expected. scientists found rivers in the ice which couldn't be seen from satellite. antartica is melting from the bottom so change is hard to see; but in 2005 nasa reported that 1250 square miles of ice just dissapeared. the melt water on top is running into the cracks and refreezing causing large chunks to break off. in greenland; the meltwater is running down the cracks to the base lubricating it and the ice is falling into the sea faster.
  • HippyvikHippyvik Posts: 281
    I seem to remember a programme on the tv a while ago about sun storms and how they are damaging the ozone layer, the last big one as far as I can remember was in 2003. Did anyone else see this? It's another thing in a long line creating global warming.
  • Hippyvik wrote:
    I seem to remember a programme on the tv a while ago about sun storms and how they are damaging the ozone layer, the last big one as far as I can remember was in 2003. Did anyone else see this? It's another thing in a long line creating global warming.

    But we can control some things and not others.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • HippyvikHippyvik Posts: 281
    But we can control some things and not others.
    I agree, i just think we have to do our best and treat the planet and our fellow humans with respect. We can do no more than that.
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