Gun Laws in America

jlew24asu
jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
personally I hate guns. They are intended for one purpose. To Kill. I would like to see extremely tough gun laws. much tougher then the ones already in place. and an all out ban on assault weapons like machine guns.

the second amendment right is as outdated as catholic priests not being allowed to marry. we shouldnt have the right to bear arms. it should be a privilege to those who qualify.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    I own a gun. It is not intended to kill since a gun is an inanimate object and therefore has no intent.

    The day freedoms become "outdated" is the day you better have a lot of guns.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I own a gun. It is not intended to kill since a gun is an inanimate object and therefore has no intent.

    so its used for show? I dont get it. the gun is used to kill.


    farfromglorified wrote:
    The day freedoms become "outdated" is the day you better have a lot of guns.

    when this amendment was written guns were part of everyday life. everyone had them. it was a different time then. times change
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so its used for show? I dont get it. the gun is used to kill.

    No it's not. The gun is used for protection. That protection stems from the very mindset represented by your statement above.
    when this amendment was written guns were part of everyday life. everyone had them. it was a different time then. times change

    No one owns tape players anymore either. Should we ban those? I mean, I could bludgeon someone over the head with that too.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    farfromglorified wrote:
    No it's not. The gun is used for protection.

    How exactly?

    And how do you feel about the current gun laws?
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    jlew24asu wrote:
    personally I hate guns. They are intended for one purpose. To Kill. I would like to see extremely tough gun laws. much tougher then the ones already in place. and an all out ban on assault weapons like machine guns.

    the second amendment right is as outdated as catholic priests not being allowed to marry. we shouldnt have the right to bear arms. it should be a privilege to those who qualify.

    I pretty much agree with that. I think tougher gun laws will be good.

    The right to bear arms is antiquated and useless and offers no protection against a tyrannical government.

    By not allowing common citizens to possess nuclear weapons or missiles, the government has already violated this amendment as those are the "arms" that the government has currently.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Collin wrote:
    How exactly?

    If someone attacks me, I show them the gun and they stop. It's very effective.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    know1 wrote:
    I pretty much agree with that. I think tougher gun laws will be good.

    Good for what?
    The right to bear arms is antiquated and useless and offers no protection against a tyrannical government.

    How is it "antiquated"? Are "tyrannical governments" no longer something you wish to be protected from?
    By not allowing common citizens to possess nuclear weapons or missiles, the government has already violated this amendment.

    Yes, it has.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Everyones Ideas of freedom change when it's something they don't like.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    farfromglorified wrote:
    If someone attacks me, I show them the gun and they stop. It's very effective.

    That's just one scenario.

    Here's another, the attacker sees you reaching for your gun and kills you. You didn't protect anything in this scenario.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    No it's not. The gun is used for protection. That protection stems from the very mindset represented by your statement above.

    exactly. its used to protect you from someone with a gun (potentially; could be a knife, blunt object whatever. fact is you will kill him with your gun). his gun will kill you, you will kill him.


    farfromglorified wrote:
    No one owns tape players anymore either. Should we ban those? I mean, I could bludgeon someone over the head with that too.

    tape players dont kill people. and your logic using it to kill someone is childish
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Everyones Ideas of freedom change when it's something they don't like.


    huh? I dont like something that can easily kill me and is easily available
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    exactly. its used to protect you from someone with a gun (potentially; could be a knife, blunt object whatever. fact is you will kill him with your gun). his gun will kill you, you will kill him.

    I'm not killing anyone.
    tape players dont kill people. and your logic using it to kill someone is childish

    No, tape players don't kill people. Neither do guns. People kill people, and those people use tools to do so.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    If someone attacks me, I show them the gun and they stop. It's very effective.


    sure, what if that someone manages to take that gun from you in a struggle. he kills you, your wife, your kids.

    very effective....for him, not you
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    huh? I dont like something that can easily kill me and is easily available

    You mean icepicks?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sure, what if that someone manages to take that gun from you in a struggle. he kills you, your wife, your kids.

    very effective.

    Well, I have no wife and kids, so they're safe. And there really wouldn't be a struggle. If he asked for my gun, I'd just give it to him.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    farfromglorified wrote:
    You mean icepicks?

    Icepicks are meant for picking ice, I think:confused: not for killing.

    I never understood the guns don't kill people, people kill people.

    It's like the worst slogan ever.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    You mean icepicks?


    no I mean guns. you can kill someone from 20 feet away with a gun. with an icepick, the stronger man will win.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Collin wrote:
    That's just one scenario.

    Here's another, the attacker sees you reaching for your gun and kills you. You didn't protect anything in this scenario.

    If the attacker is pointing a gun at me, I certainly wouldn't be reaching for my gun.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Well, I have no wife and kids, so they're safe. And there really wouldn't be a struggle. If he asked for my gun, I'd just give it to him.

    How effective.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    know1 wrote:
    By not allowing common citizens to possess nuclear weapons or missiles, the government has already violated this amendment as those are the "arms" that the government has currently.

    You beat me to it. When people say "2nd Ammendment" then they better say that you should be able to have a tank parked in your garage and a missle silo in your back yard. Otherwise, the line has to be drawn somewhere.

    "guns don't kill people, people do" is one of those commonly believed misconceptions. Think of it this way, if someone is going to try to rob you when you are taking money from an ATM, would you rather they have a gun or a knife? Wit the latter, at least you have a fighting chance.

    All of that said, statistically, gun control is shown not to have an effect on violent crime rates. But this pertains more to handguns.

    Imagine a world without guns (some people shudder. It would make me happy)
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