Gun Laws in America
jlew24asu
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personally I hate guns. They are intended for one purpose. To Kill. I would like to see extremely tough gun laws. much tougher then the ones already in place. and an all out ban on assault weapons like machine guns.
the second amendment right is as outdated as catholic priests not being allowed to marry. we shouldnt have the right to bear arms. it should be a privilege to those who qualify.
the second amendment right is as outdated as catholic priests not being allowed to marry. we shouldnt have the right to bear arms. it should be a privilege to those who qualify.
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The day freedoms become "outdated" is the day you better have a lot of guns.
so its used for show? I dont get it. the gun is used to kill.
when this amendment was written guns were part of everyday life. everyone had them. it was a different time then. times change
No it's not. The gun is used for protection. That protection stems from the very mindset represented by your statement above.
No one owns tape players anymore either. Should we ban those? I mean, I could bludgeon someone over the head with that too.
How exactly?
And how do you feel about the current gun laws?
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I pretty much agree with that. I think tougher gun laws will be good.
The right to bear arms is antiquated and useless and offers no protection against a tyrannical government.
By not allowing common citizens to possess nuclear weapons or missiles, the government has already violated this amendment as those are the "arms" that the government has currently.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
If someone attacks me, I show them the gun and they stop. It's very effective.
Good for what?
How is it "antiquated"? Are "tyrannical governments" no longer something you wish to be protected from?
Yes, it has.
That's just one scenario.
Here's another, the attacker sees you reaching for your gun and kills you. You didn't protect anything in this scenario.
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exactly. its used to protect you from someone with a gun (potentially; could be a knife, blunt object whatever. fact is you will kill him with your gun). his gun will kill you, you will kill him.
tape players dont kill people. and your logic using it to kill someone is childish
huh? I dont like something that can easily kill me and is easily available
I'm not killing anyone.
No, tape players don't kill people. Neither do guns. People kill people, and those people use tools to do so.
You mean icepicks?
sure, what if that someone manages to take that gun from you in a struggle. he kills you, your wife, your kids.
very effective....for him, not you
Well, I have no wife and kids, so they're safe. And there really wouldn't be a struggle. If he asked for my gun, I'd just give it to him.
Icepicks are meant for picking ice, I think
I never understood the guns don't kill people, people kill people.
It's like the worst slogan ever.
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no I mean guns. you can kill someone from 20 feet away with a gun. with an icepick, the stronger man will win.
If the attacker is pointing a gun at me, I certainly wouldn't be reaching for my gun.
How effective.
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You beat me to it. When people say "2nd Ammendment" then they better say that you should be able to have a tank parked in your garage and a missle silo in your back yard. Otherwise, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
"guns don't kill people, people do" is one of those commonly believed misconceptions. Think of it this way, if someone is going to try to rob you when you are taking money from an ATM, would you rather they have a gun or a knife? Wit the latter, at least you have a fighting chance.
All of that said, statistically, gun control is shown not to have an effect on violent crime rates. But this pertains more to handguns.
Imagine a world without guns (some people shudder. It would make me happy)
you lost me far
So how does it protect you, or how do you use it for protection then?
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Should be ban muscles then too?
I already answered this question, as did you. People who have guns pointed at them are likely to do what people holding guns tell them to do.
How? I directly answered your question: if someone wanted to struggle with me over my gun, it would be unnecessary. I would simply hand it over to them.
ok.
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I'm ok with any of the above. The "line" that is drawn is when that tank starts shooting at me.
I'd rather not have someone rob me at the ATM.
That's because you're blaming guns for choices. Guns don't make choices.
I'd love a world without guns. But a ban on guns doesn't eliminate a single gun.
So it doesn't protect you at all.
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Of course it does. It's highly unlikely that the man I'm pointing my gun at is going to ask me for the gun. Furthermore, it's highly unlikely that the man I'm pointing my gun at is going to attempt to fight me for the gun, particularly considering I wouldn't be pointing a gun at him if he was already pointing one at me.
The most likely event is that he simply walks away. That's what my gun is for.
ok great. but a ban or extremely hard laws to get them would reduce the chances of crime where guns are used. and they are used in alot of crimes.