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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,246
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    anyone see the interview from alst month where she says that before she considers running for VP, someone would have to explain to her what exactly it is that the VP does all day?

    Nothing really but hold up traffic here in DC with Cheney's 21 vehicle motorcade. Just pisses me off since I have to drive by his Naval Observatory home everyday back and forth to work.

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  • JP2026766
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    stupidcorporatewhore wrote:
    update:

    Google "executive branch" the only source that comes close to supporting your arguement is wikipedia. WP says states have executives on a STATE level, so yeah, but not exucutive on a federal level.

    she does not have any federal executive experience, I'm sticking to that.

    prove me wrong.

    She's managed and governed, something that Biden and Obama never have done. and no one has experience on the federal level. so the next thing you would look at is state governor. thats generally the closest to president you can get. Obama hasn't done anything at all.

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  • 88keys
    88keys Posts: 151
    Sooner or later, everyone will realize VP picks mean shit. Bush Sr. picked Quayle in 88... he was young, had zero experience and was a blithering idiot and Bush Sr. won the election. I remember Qualye getting creamed by Lloyd Bentson in the VP debate (the infamous "You're no Jack Kennedy" line was from that debate) and the democrats still couldn't carry Bentson's home state (Texas) in that election.
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  • Rider
    Rider Posts: 129
    I am sure that the campaign organization Obama manages and governs is much larger then the town govt of Wasilla (pop. 5,000!). What is that- 15 garbagemen, 12 cops, a librarian and a dog catcher? Wow, that must be just like running an entire nation! I have 45 employees that report to me so I must be at least as qualified as Palin, right? Or is the 20 months as Alaska (pop 650,000) gov what really does it for ya? Troopergate scandal included. Firing your sisters Ex? C'mon, there is really no way she has the experience or judgement to run this nation.
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  • meistereder
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    88keys wrote:
    Sooner or later, everyone will realize VP picks mean shit. Bush Sr. picked Quayle in 88... he was young, had zero experience and was a blithering idiot and Bush Sr. won the election. I remember Qualye getting creamed by Lloyd Bentson in the VP debate (the infamous "You're no Jack Kennedy" line was from that debate) and the democrats still couldn't carry Bentson's home state (Texas) in that election.


    Obvious fact ignored: McCain just turned 72 and has cancer.
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  • digster
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    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    She's managed and governed, something that Biden and Obama never have done. and no one has experience on the federal level. so the next thing you would look at is state governor. thats generally the closest to president you can get. Obama hasn't done anything at all.

    She also has zero foreign policy experience. Zero. Absolutely none. And if you tell me that Alaska being near Russia constitutes foreign policy experience, you should be laughed out of the room. Obama has traveled abroad on behalf of the United States. He has communicated and negotiated with foreign dignitaries and heads of state. Has he done this as much as McCain? Nope, but he's done it. For all your passionate talk about executive experience, I should tell you that the man at the top of the Republican ticket has absolutely no executive experience either. I guess he's unqualified as well. Anyway, I'm not saying Palin is unqualified, she may be. However, John McCain doesn't seem to think so. McCain has stated throughout his campaign that his veep candidate must have "extensive qualifications and experience" and someone with "experience and knowledge in foreign policy." His words, not mine.

    Obama has done nothing? Obama has sponsored, co-sponsored, and voted for many pieces of legislation, both in the U.S. Senate and in the State Senate. I encourage you to look it up; it's easily found all over the Internet
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    88keys wrote:
    Sooner or later, everyone will realize VP picks mean shit. Bush Sr. picked Quayle in 88... he was young, had zero experience and was a blithering idiot and Bush Sr. won the election. I remember Qualye getting creamed by Lloyd Bentson in the VP debate (the infamous "You're no Jack Kennedy" line was from that debate) and the democrats still couldn't carry Bentson's home state (Texas) in that election.

    I think one of the differences that must be noted is that Bush was vice president to Ronald Reagan, an incredibly popular president who maintained high popularity numbers even at his departure. McCain's Republican predecessor? . . . . . .yeah.
  • South of Seattle
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    Very Misleading thread title ;)
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:
    She's managed and governed, something that Biden and Obama never have done. and no one has experience on the federal level. so the next thing you would look at is state governor. thats generally the closest to president you can get. Obama hasn't done anything at all.

    plus, Alaska is near Russia, so there's her foreign policy experience. So say Cindy McCain and Steve Doocy, the village idiot ove rat Fox News
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    plus, Alaska is near Russia, so there's her foreign policy experience. So say Cindy McCain and Steve Doocy, the village idiot ove rat Fox News

    I really can't believe they are trying that. I wouldn't have believed anyone if they had told me that Cindy McCain had stated that those were Palin's foreign policy credentials, but sure enough, I saw it with my own eyes. This election is completely insane; I never thought that Obama's admittedly thin foreign policy credentials would end up being a positive for him.
  • Taft
    Taft Posts: 457
    digster wrote:
    I really can't believe they are trying that. I wouldn't have believed anyone if they had told me that Cindy McCain had stated that those were Palin's foreign policy credentials, but sure enough, I saw it with my own eyes. This election is completely insane; I never thought that Obama's admittedly thin foreign policy credentials would end up being a positive for him.

    Again, and not that I think anyone on the message pit is dumb enough to fall for pathetic Republican tactics, but in references to the Russia/Alaska thing:

    Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard, said he and Governor Palin play no role in national defense activities in Alaska, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is NOT BRIEFED on situations.
  • IndianSummer
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    freindlyfired wrote:
    International experience.

    To date, no information about Mrs. Palin’s international travel and experience is readily available. She attended college in Idaho, but much as one stretches one’s imagination, that is still not ‘international.’ She did visit troops in Iraq but dont really know at this point what came of it.

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  • darkcrow
    darkcrow Posts: 1,102
    IndianSummer wrote:
    THEY ARE trying to choose a vice president for solving america's internal problems not a foreign minister to establish better diplomatic relations

    Although going by how McCain has been campaiging, the VP, by his standards, is one that can take over in a heartbeat.. or should that be heart attack.... and be able to deal with world leaders, grapple with complex world issues etc...

    And these days we are so far ahead in terms of internationalism and inderdependence that you cannot no longer be an isolationist or one that focuses soley on internal problems. You have to be able to ahve a grasp on international issues, be able to comprehend how thigns interrelate and be able to talk to world leaders to be able to get the best for your people.
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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    Boy, I think I disagree with her on every issue mentioned. I thought McCain was a moderate? :confused: I don't see her making it to the election. But I'm sure she's a great mom and probably runs Alaska well enough.
  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,578
    darkcrow wrote:
    Although going by how McCain has been campaiging, the VP, by his standards, is one that can take over in a heartbeat.. or should that be heart attack.... and be able to deal with world leaders, grapple with complex world issues etc...

    And these days we are so far ahead in terms of internationalism and inderdependence that you cannot no longer be an isolationist or one that focuses soley on internal problems. You have to be able to ahve a grasp on international issues, be able to comprehend how thigns interrelate and be able to talk to world leaders to be able to get the best for your people.

    You're wasting your breath. I agree with you, but lots and lots of people in the US still think we're the center of the world.
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  • blackredyellow
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    88keys wrote:
    Sooner or later, everyone will realize VP picks mean shit. Bush Sr. picked Quayle in 88... he was young, had zero experience and was a blithering idiot and Bush Sr. won the election. I remember Qualye getting creamed by Lloyd Bentson in the VP debate (the infamous "You're no Jack Kennedy" line was from that debate) and the democrats still couldn't carry Bentson's home state (Texas) in that election.

    In a vacuum you are correct, but things couldn't be more different in 2008 than 1988.

    Bush was Reagan's VP... in an incredibly popular administration. Definitley not the case this time around.

    In 1988 the VP did basically nothing... now after Cheney, the VP position is seen as drastically more important.

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  • freindlyfired
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    edpearson wrote:
    Here's a few that I received from my daily MoveOn.org email that I'll amend to your list:

    1) Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.

    2) She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000.

    3) Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.

    4) How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.

    Do yourself a favor, unsubscribe to Moveon.org... they are part of the problem.
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    freindlyfired wrote:
    Do yourself a favor, unsubscribe to Moveon.org... they are part of the problem.

    I'm no fan of moveon.org, but every single one of those statements is true and is easily verifiable.
  • freindlyfired
    freindlyfired Posts: 297
    digster wrote:
    I'm no fan of moveon.org, but every single one of those statements is true and is easily verifiable.

    1) Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest. AGREED OK...

    2) She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. So what... many people supported him.

    3) Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools. AGREED OK...

    4) How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position. Where is this going?? So Im to beleive that they knew nothing about her?? The background check was extensive and intrusive. He may of not have known her but the people behind the GOP machinations did.

    My point is all of that great info is already out there. There is no need for a very biased moveon group other than to combat the republican wing groups. They are both part of the problem with the main goal being to turn people against each other. Unsubscribe.
  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    Someone supporting somebody like Pat Buchannan is a pretty big deal to alot of people, especially considering that many people in the country consider Buchannan a radical nutjob. Considering all the controversy swelling, and the fact that it seems like until the last moment McCain wanted Lieberman, it's quite possible she was not analyzed as specifically as most other veep candidates.

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