McCain seeks to delay debate to focus on economy

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    I'd really like it if instead of the idiots that were overseeing these committees while the shit hit the fan, we got some outside experts to help develop a plan.

    I'm all for people cleaning up their own mess, but I don't trust them.
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    Thecure wrote:
    what part of this post do you not agree with. teh future president should be involved first hand in this issue. you can question whenther McCain is the person who should be president but all i am saying is that teh potenial president should be there.


    You never answered my question from the previous page?
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    mammasan wrote:
    Rep. Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, seems to be on board with the proposal.


    Rep Richard Shelby, who is actually on the banking committee ... was just blustering how he does not agree with it, how he has e-mails from 5 leading economists that say it won't work, etc etc ...
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    brandon10 wrote:
    You never answered my question from the previous page?

    sorry i did not see that question. i agree with you that suspending the campaign was stupid and i wrote that before. i agree that palin should stand up and i don't liek her as a VP. i actually don't like both Obama and mcCain my point is that i think the 2 peopel who have a chance of being president should be working with teh senate. did i miss any part, if i did i am sorry and will go read your post agian.
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    jimed14 wrote:
    Rep Richard Shelby, who is actually on the banking committee ... was just blustering how he does not agree with it, how he has e-mails from 5 leading economists that say it won't work, etc etc ...

    I'm sure that there are going to be Dems and Reps who come out against it but I don't think they would have made the announcement that they have a plan if they didn't already make sure that it would pass with ease.
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    Thecure wrote:
    what part of this post do you not agree with. teh future president should be involved first hand in this issue. you can question whenther McCain is the person who should be president but all i am saying is that teh potenial president should be there.

    I'll ask once again.

    TO DO WHAT?

    Obama and McCain have already agreed upon the provisions. The statement has been passed on to both parties and agreement has now been reached by both Republicans and Democrats. All that is left to do now is get Bush to approve it and then vote on it.

    What can either Obama and McCain do further?
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    This is priceless!

    Over at Politico, they report that Barney Frank minced few words, saying: "Nobody mentioned him. The man's irrelevant to the whole process. No Republican mentioned his name. I'm the only one who raised his name. They winced when I did." Frank also compared McCain to a cartoon superhero:
    "He's been irrelevant to the process. He remains to be," said Frank. "I was afraid that his dropping in here, like Andy Kaufman's Mighty Mouse -- 'here I am to save the day' -- I thought that would slow things down. I didn't see any sign of our Republican colleagues paying any attention to him whatsoever."
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    I'll ask once again.

    TO DO WHAT?

    Obama and McCain have already agreed upon the provisions. The statement has been passed on to both parties and agreement has now been reached by both Republicans and Democrats. All that is left to do now is get Bush to approve it and then vote on it.

    What can either Obama and McCain do further?

    do you not believe that the 2 potenial leaders of the country can't do anything more. i am glad that teh agreement is done, but don't you think that if let's say the agreement was not done that obama and mccain woudl have been able to sway people to get in fixed. if you don't think so then that says alot about the 2 people running for president.
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    Thecure wrote:
    do you not believe that the 2 potenial leaders of the country can't do anything more. i am glad that teh agreement is done, but don't you think that if let's say the agreement was not done that obama and mccain woudl have been able to sway people to get in fixed. if you don't think so then that says alot about the 2 people running for president.


    Well, we know that one of the 2 people has been completely irrelevant in the process.
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    meistereder wrote:
    Well, we know that one of the 2 people has been completely irrelevant in the process.

    both people are senators so we can't really say that any of them have done a good job.
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    Thecure wrote:
    do you not believe that the 2 potenial leaders of the country can't do anything more. i am glad that teh agreement is done, but don't you think that if let's say the agreement was not done that obama and mccain woudl have been able to sway people to get in fixed. if you don't think so then that says alot about the 2 people running for president.

    They've made their points, and they've added their provisions. It's not like they're going to stand over every single person in their caucus and bully them into signing the bill? besides...they don't have to be in Washington to do that....do they?

    I understand what you are saying about leadership and I completley agree. However, I think that Obama has managed to show this leadership without having to pull that bullshit that McCain tryed to pull yesterday.

    Did you hear what day McCain wants to re-scedule the debates?

    October 3rd....Hmmm....such an odd day to pick...wait a minute...

    **Ring Ring***

    Isn't that the same day as the (one and only) VP debate?
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    They've made their points, and they've added their provisions. It's not like they're going to stand over every single person in their caucus and bully them into signing the bill? besides...they don't have to be in Washington to do that....do they?

    I understand what you are saying about leadership and I completley agree. However, I think that Obama has managed to show this leadership without having to pull that bullshit that McCain tryed to pull yesterday.

    Did you hear what day McCain wants to re-scedule the debates?

    October 3rd....Hmmm....such an odd day to pick...wait a minute...

    **Ring Ring***

    Isn't that the same day as the (one and only) VP debate?

    Well they do actually have to be present to vote but the vote will not be for a few days.
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    mammasan wrote:
    Well they do actually have to be present to vote but the vote will not be for a few days.


    Okay, they'll be their to cast their respective votes... But it's no excuse to be absent from the debates.

    Apparently it's cost the University of Miss. 8 million dollars of their own money to put on this debate.

    There will be more than a few people pissed off if McCain bails.
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Okay, they'll be their to cast their respective votes... But it's no excuse to be absent from the debates.

    Apparently it's cost the University of Miss. 8 million dollars of their own money to put on this debate.

    There will be more than a few people pissed off if McCain bails.


    No he definietly should be able to make the debate. Congress has agreed on a plan. It's being presented to Bush and Paulson and a vote will be expected in a few days. He has no excuse to miss the debate.
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Okay, they'll be their to cast their respective votes... But it's no excuse to be absent from the debates.

    Apparently it's cost the University of Miss. 8 million dollars of their own money to put on this debate.

    There will be more than a few people pissed off if McCain bails.


    I got to say ... people complaining that the University of Mississippi may lose money as a reason to have the debate, that's just silly ... we're talking about $700B dollars ... I'm sure they'll throw those people a $8M bone.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't have the debate, but, let's not worry too much about Ole Miss ...
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    jimed14 wrote:
    I got to say ... people complaining that the University of Mississippi may lose money as a reason to have the debate, that's just silly ... we're talking about $700B dollars ... I'm sure they'll throw those people a $8M bone.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't have the debate, but, let's not worry too much about Ole Miss ...


    Yeah Okay
    WITH WHAT MONEY?
  • Posts: 1,278
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Obama is very much involved in this issue in case you didn't notice and he has been speaking about this shit alot longer than McCain who's only seemed to take a dip in this pool in the last 26 hours; coincidentally the precise time his polls began to slide.

    Obama has led the way in making sure that this 3 PAGE BILL be modified and revised so that it has the necessary provisions placed on it to meet his and the Democrats approval. Obama is making sure that the American people aren't going to get their asses screwed on this bailout.

    John McCain has done neither and at this very moment is probably sitting on some toilet on Captial Hill trying to wrap his head around this whole thing.

    Obama is leading on this issue without the grandstanding of John McCain. Obama isn't claiming to be jumping on his horse to come save the day and he sure as fuck isn't taking a break from the campaign.

    It's called multi tasking
    It's called Leadership

    None of which that numb nut geezer McCain has remotley shown in regards to the economy.


    good post!

    if i wasn't already married with children, i'd offer to have your babies. :)
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    sweetpotato wrote:
    good post!

    if i wasn't already married with children, i'd offer to have your babies. :)


    Then I'd like to thank your husband for sparing the rest of us from that potential spawn. ;)
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Then I'd like to thank your husband for sparing the rest of us from that potential spawn. ;)

    Normally I'd take offense to such a comment...But...Once I saw cincybearcat in your name...I thought I'd let it go...you are obviously very misguided :)
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    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Normally I'd take offense to such a comment...But...Once I saw cincybearcat in your name...I thought I'd let it go...you are obviously very misguided :)


    All in fun Gonzo, all in Fun! :)

    Does the 1977 stand for the last time you got laid? ;)

    Ok, back on topic...McCain made a huge play here...it backfired...it certainly put him in a hole for the election, and unless Palin changes and produces a great debate (I'm leary now) it's all over.
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