Nader asks if Obama will be "Uncle Tom"

El_Kabong wrote:

isn't a black person saying 'you don't like me b/c you dislike immigrants' the same as saying 'you're racist'?
wasn't ed thinking of race w/ his 'color in the whitehouse' comment? (which you supported and agreed w/) would he have said that about a white person?? its ok to focus on his race when you agree w/ the person, eh?

btw - WHERE do you even GET that comment? is obama an immigrant? so why would you ever assume, simply b/c he is black - why that even matters, i don't know - but nonetheless, even as a black man...WHY would you see that as him referring to people as racist? i think YOUR personal interpretation of that comment speaks a helluva lot more about YOUR personal pov than of obama's and any possisble racist/bigot overtones...seriously..


i so love how instead of actually adressing the points against nader's comments, you merely turn it around and readdress another issue entirely...such as obama's comments on being anti-immigrant or ed's joke about color in the white house. but since you actually refuse to debate the actual issue...sure...here we go:


i think i already addressed it, again, more than a few times....


whether obama is black, white or otherwise....his comments about being anti-immigrant do not, imo, hold ANY 'racially loaded language.' i thought i clearly adressed that in my very last post...which you conveniently ignored that point. him being black means NADA in regards to his anti-immigrant comment. seriously. YOU are interpreting it to mean he is calling others racist...i don't see it AT ALL. especially in the context of the ENTIRE point: being anti-immigrant, clinging to their guns and religion...to me clearly refers to being close-minded, period...and nothing to do necessarily with being racist....and ANY person could utter that phrase, accurately....


as to ed's comment, again, i had already addressed that point a few times. ed is NOT a world leader, not trying to be a world leader...so that right there makes a big difference. beyond that, saying something positive and in humor, a LOT different than a critique. if you want your critique taken seriously, if you want to be seen as a leader...it's best to leave the racially loaded language behind.


again, as i said in my last post...the comment you harp on, obama's anti-immigrant statement could easily be said by ANYone, of ANY skintone, in reference to anyone of anyskintone...whereas nader's comments can ONLY be said to someone who is black, any only references black people...just like you seem to harp on obama'sd skincolor by your focus on his comments 'as a black man'.......seriously...i see him as the president-elect, his skintone/race is of no consequence and should not be, period.


comparing comments a rockstar makes to comments of one who had hoped to be a world leader is comical at best.


just to refresh a part of the post you yet again chose to ignore:

decides2dream wrote:

but you also are the person who stated in an earlier post that obama 'as a black man'...to use the term anti-immigrant as a reason people didn't vote for him.....was racially loaded and wrong. why is the fact that he is black matter there? i think a white candidate could just as easily make the same comment if voters felt he/she were too much in favor of immigration...yet one would NEVER use the term 'uncle tom' in reference to a white president-elect and what he possibly may do. BIG Difference.....that i see, and you don't. so be it.