Media Ignores Higher Black on White Crime Rate for PC Crap

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  • Posts: 1,824
    surferdude wrote:
    I'm not familiar with his use of evolutionary study but if he's right he's right. I'm not going to not accept the truth because I don't like it. My guess is that Hitler's arguements could easily be undone with just a bit of critical thinking. I know critical thinking takes a bit more work than attacking the messenger but c'mon. Attecking the messenger never solved any problem. If you don't like the truth then go out and change the world so the truth will be more to your liking. Just don't deny the truth.
    The Nazi party used the fact that the earliest modern humans were dark skinned, and that lighter skinned humans appeared later. These messangers then used that fact to push the idea that non-whites were less evolved, and therefore less than human. Yes, a little critical thinking would go a long way toward dispelling this belief; but knowing the messenger is important in knowing why a certain fact is being pushed.

    Also, facts are not truth. A fact can certainly be used to back up a truth - in fact, it's pretty much necessary. However, facts can also be used to back up ignorance and idiocy. Knowing the messenger is about the best way to discern the difference.
  • Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    What you percieve is not reality.

    And yes, you should be embarrassed. You're just too ignorant of the subject matter and black community to realize your own absurdity.

    Go hang out with black families. Go have dinner with them. Have a BBQ with them. Go speak to them and exchange your thoughts in a rational manner.

    They are human beings, just like me....just like you. They don't need or want your pretentious Captian Avenger The Drama Queen crap.

    For god's sake, go learn something before you go shooting off your mouth like some dorky Black Avenger.
    So what are you saying, then? Someone getting your information filtered through a white supremacist organization shouldn't be called on it? Blacks are fine with whites defending groups like the New Century Foundation?

    I don't get it. This thread was started because CorporateWhore didn't like the way the facts (yes, they are facts) were reported by the Washington Post (the messenger). So he posts even more skewed facts from a white supremacist group, and suddenly the messenger is untouchable for reporting facts?

    Why, THIS IS ABOUT THE WASHINGTON POST (please ignore the fact - ahem - that my information comes from Nazis).
  • Posts: 2,374
    cornnifer wrote:
    You obviously know painful little about me, where i grew up, where i come from, how i'm educated etc. Therefore i'll let this slide. But if you did know, you would know why i'm laughing at you right now.

    That didn't stop you from making absurd assumptions and accusations about me, did it?

    Funny how that works for you. Hypocrite.

    It's always different when you're handed your own medicine, isn't it!

    You'll let me slide? Oh my, how fortunate I am:rolleyes:
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    RainDog wrote:
    So what are you saying, then? Someone getting your information filtered through a white supremacist organization shouldn't be called on it? Blacks are fine with whites defending groups like the New Century Foundation?

    I don't get it. This thread was started because CorporateWhore didn't like the way the facts (yes, they are facts) were reported by the Washington Post (the messenger). So he posts even more skewed facts from a white supremacist group, and suddenly the messenger is untouchable for reporting facts?

    Why, THIS IS ABOUT THE WASHINGTON POST (please ignore the fact - ahem - that my information comes from Nazis).

    Sheesh, do you have some kind of head trauma, or something?

    How many times does a person have to make the same point, before it sinks in?

    You're points are irrelevent. None of the crap you're blabbing about was ever the issue.
  • Posts: 2,130
    NMyTree wrote:
    That didn't stop you from making absurd assumptions and accusations about me, did it?

    Funny how that works for you. Hypocrite.

    It's always different when you're handed your own medicine, isn't it!

    You'll let me slide? Oh my, how fortunate I am:rolleyes:

    This discussion has ceased to be productive, i'll not argue with you any longer. Besides i think "COPS" is on. Would hate for you to miss that.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Posts: 10,822
    cornnifer wrote:
    This discussion has ceased to be productive, i'll not argue with you any longer. Besides i think "COPS" is on. Would hate for you to miss that.

    I am a liberal, but I love COPS!
  • Posts: 2,374
    cornnifer wrote:
    This discussion has ceased to be productive, i'll not argue with you any longer. Besides i think "COPS" is on. Would hate for you to miss that.

    NOW, you're concerned with being productive? LMAO!!!!

    Man, you really are a major hypocrite.


    BTW, this little quip from you.....

    " You obviously know painful little about me, where i grew up, where i come from, how i'm educated etc. "

    ....also goes for me and even CW. What painful little do you know about me?

    C' mon hypocrite......tell me.

    cornnifer wrote:
    Besides i think "COPS" is on. Would hate for you to miss that.

    Oooooooooooo...another insinuation......accusation that I'm a racist.....Ooooooooooooooo

    Considering this is coming from the biggest racist in this thread, you'll have to pardon if I simply chuckle and giggle at your quips.
  • cornnifer wrote:
    i appreciate and admire your "there is no such thing as race" ideology. i sincerely do. In a way its refreshing and utopian (albeit a bit polyanna at times) such universal attitude is without question, desireable.
    Tell it to the a Black guy who listens to some of the White supremacist crap that gets posted in this forum. Tell it to anyone who actually knows first hand what it is like to be non-white in this country. Tell THEM their "race" doesn't really exist. Tell it, for example, to Blacks in New Orleans. Tell it to a Latino guy just about anywhere in the U.S these days.

    BTW the hypothetical victim you speak of, by many people, would be called "n****r". Maybe that answers your question, Maybe it doesn't.

    You may think yer stickin' up for the little guy but yer really just a left-wing putz. Your conception of what a racist is is about as well thought out as a fart.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
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    You may think yer stickin' up for the little guy but yer really just a left-wing putz. Your conception of what a racist is is about as well thought out as a fart.

    i don't think i'm "stickin up" for anyone. i'm just calling it as i see it. Someone who cites information from white supremacist organizations, refers to Blacks as gentetically intellectually inferior and primitive, leaves me with no other assumptions. Good luck with that. i'm through trying to reason with an aspiring grand dragon.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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    NMyTree wrote:
    Sheesh, do you have some kind of head trauma, or something?

    How many times does a person have to make the same point, before it sinks in?

    You're points are irrelevent. None of the crap you're blabbing about was ever the issue.
    I don't care what the "point" is. Blacks don't need whitey to defend them? Well fuckadoodle do, dickhead, that's about the most brilliant shit I've read here in a long time. Now I can't wait to hear your disertation describing the sky as blue.

    I'm not here to "defend blacks" and I'm not here to discuss shit within your boundries. In fact, I don't know what the fuck your point is - other than to call people racist for pointing out that the information from the original post came from a racist organization.
  • Posts: 10,560
    Caution against ranking

    Each year when Hate Crime Statistics is published, some entities' news media, tourism agencies, and other groups with an interest in crime in our Nation—use reported figures to compile rankings of cities and counties. These rankings, however, are merely a quick choice made by the data user; they provide no insight into the many variables that mold the crime in a particular town, city, county, state, or region. Consequently, these rankings lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting cities and counties, along with their residents.

    Make valid assessments of crime

    It is incumbent upon all data users to become as well educated as possible about how to understand and quantify the nature and extent of crime in the United States and in any of the more than 17,000 jurisdictions represented by law enforcement contributors to the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program. Valid assessments are possible only with careful study and analysis of the various unique conditions affecting each local law enforcement jurisdiction.

    Historically, the causes and origins of crime have been the subjects of investigation by many disciplines. Some factors that are known to affect the volume and type of crime occurring from place to place are:

    Population density and degree of urbanization.
    Variations in composition of the population, particularly youth concentration.
    Stability of the population with respect to residents' mobility, commuting patterns, and transient factors.
    Modes of transportation and highway system.
    Economic conditions, including median income, poverty level, and job availability.
    Cultural factors and educational, recreational, and religious characteristics.
    Family conditions with respect to divorce and family cohesiveness.
    Climate.
    Effective strength of law enforcement agencies.
    Administrative and investigative emphases of law enforcement.
    Policies of other components of the criminal justice system (i.e., prosecutorial, judicial, correctional, and probational).
    Citizens' attitudes toward crime.
    Crime reporting practices of the citizenry.

    Hate Crime Statistics provides a nationwide view of hate crime based on statistics contributed by local, county, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies. Although many of the listed factors equally affect the crime of a particular area, the UCR Program makes no attempt to relate them to the data presented. The data user is, therefore, cautioned against comparing statistical data of individual reporting units from cities, counties, metropolitan areas, states, or colleges or universities solely on the basis of the statistics provided. Until data users examine all the variables that affect crime in a town, city, county, state, region, or college or university, they can make no meaningful comparisons.


    http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/variables.htm
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    Being the only black man on this board (as far as I can tell) you guys are clueless.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    The data user is, therefore, cautioned against comparing statistical data of individual reporting units from cities, counties, metropolitan areas, states, or colleges or universities solely on the basis of the statistics provided. Until data users examine all the variables that affect crime in a town, city, county, state, region, or college or university, they can make no meaningful comparisons.
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    http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/variables.htm
    Precisely what i mentioned once before. Context.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Posts: 10,560
    cornnifer wrote:
    Precisely what i mentioned once before. Context.

    You might find this book an interesting read

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2007/06/the_cult_of_the_amateur_by_andrew_keen_1.html

    Andrew Keen's "The Cult of the Amateur" is about internet bloggers spinning facts into garbage. But he also tries to say the internet is destroying art and the economy, I don't agree with him there, but certainly the blogging is viral.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Posts: 2,130
    Ahnimus wrote:
    You might find this book an interesting read

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2007/06/the_cult_of_the_amateur_by_andrew_keen_1.html

    Andrew Keen's "The Cult of the Amateur" is about internet bloggers spinning facts into garbage. But he also tries to say the internet is destroying art and the economy, I don't agree with him there, but certainly the blogging is viral.

    Looks interesting.
    i've said many times before that people need to excercise caution in regards to information obtained via the auspices of the internet. Any jackass can publish a web page.









    It takes a special kind of jackass to put stock in a white supremacist created one. :)
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Posts: 2,374
    cornnifer wrote:
    It takes a special kind of jackass to put stock in a white supremacist created one. :)

    Easy there sensitive Sally. I know you love to throw insults around and name-call everyone else. But I also know you're a pussy when you recieive the same treatment.

    Don't dish it out, if you can't handle it. Wouldn't want to make you cry, again.
  • cornnifer wrote:
    i'm through trying to reason with an aspiring grand dragon.

    You were through trying to reason the moment you posted on this thread. You have no idea what the hell you're talking about - you know nothing about race, genetics, and intelligence and you signify it by saying obtuse and misinformed platitudes.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • Posts: 10,560
    Racial Bias
    In 2005, law enforcement agencies reported that 4,691 hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Of these offenses:

    68.2 percent were triggered by anti-black bias.
    19.9 percent were motivated by anti-white bias.
    4.9 percent resulted from anti-Asian/Pacific Islander bias.
    4.9 percent were driven by bias against groups of individuals in which more than one race was reported (anti-multiple races, group).
    2.0 percent were motivated by anti-American Indian/Alaskan Native bias.
    (Based on Table 1.)

    http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/incidentsoffenses.htm
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Being the only black man on this board (as far as I can tell) you guys are clueless.

    Can you please give us your views on the issue?
  • Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    You ever notice how these racial threads always seem to get blown out of proportion and for WHAT! It always someone says someone else doesn't like and it's ON after that.

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