Quebec is NOT a Nation

I don't get it. What makes modern Natives or Quebecois special?

I like to think in terms of everyone is equal, clearly these arguements suggest that we are not. I could use some more explanation.

Cree Nations wrote:

and does not deserve any special treatment compared to any other province.

Yep...!!

I must say, you are all very good at explaining things, so that people can understand. :cool:

Oh, not sure about some of the stats you guys are bringing here, but when saying 50% this and that, you're talking about the separation option, i don't know any polls numbers inside Quebec saying how many Quebecers think that Quebec form a nation (federalist AND sovereignist), but i guess it's pretty much around 100%, and that's the only thing that really matters. Plus to those saying separation failed twice, you're once again short of bringing the whole argument, don't forget that the Constitution including Quebec's signature failed twice, even three times including the original "agreement". So nothing is settled in 2006.

Anyway, as someone pointed out, Quebecers did not wait till Canada recognize them, we have the National Capital, the National holiday, the National Parliament, etc., and the Quebec govt. already pass a vote that recognize Quebec as a nation (many years ago).

Last thing, Quebec don't have one third (33%) of Canada's seat in the house of common, Quebec have 75 seats out of 308 which is around 25%.

Quebec population: 7,651,500
Canada population: 32,623,500

Around 24% of the population and 25% of the seats in the house of commons, i see nothing unfair, not just, special treatment or whatever else in these numbers, maybe i'm wrong.

thankyougrandma...first of all, congratulations on getting your symbolic recognition of quebec as a nation. i also agree with your post about representation for quebec.

i guess i take a very simple view of things sometimes and i see that all over this country we have communities, people, places, and cultures that are very different. we are the second largest in the world, so it is to be expected. the native communities in every province, the gaelic communities here in the east, the ukranian coomunities in the prairies, the asian communities in the west, the inuit communities to the north, the french communities here in the maritimes, and others that are scattered all over the country. i recognize that we all have our differences both historically and culturally. it bothers me that the french speaking communities (specifically the acadian communities here in the maritimes, and the french throughout quebec) are unable to travel throughout their own country without language barrier. it bothers me when people speak negatively about quebec, and i do hear it here. i've heard it when i spent time in ontario and when i lived in the west.

there are a lot of people on all coasts that are very out of touch with the wants and needs of their fellow canadian brothers and sisters that live so far away from them. there are a lot of people in the centre who have no clue as well. there a lot of people like a certain poster here who have prejudices against certain areas and drastically skewed views of the martitimes and other places that are false. there are people here that have opinions about the west that are prejudiced and completely false. there are people who have negative opinions of cultures that are completely wrong and unfounded.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that i hope that one day we can all get to the point where we recognize and embrace our differences as being special, but also stand together as brothers and sisters in canada as canadians, with less "me" and more "we". i love our country as it is, including every province and all of the people.

i've been to all the provinces and spent time in them all but SASK., MAN., NFLD. (i'm ashamed :()...and the north...and i've met a lot of good people who share common canadian ideals. i've met a lot of others who are intolerant of differences, some from the west who couldn't point out PEI on a map, some from the east who couldn't point out VAN island on a map, some who have negative things to say about specific cultures and people. i just hope that they are all enlightened one day to the beauty and spirit of all the good people and good things, and take the steps necessary to achieve the realization that essentially we are all one.

just to bring the argument down to frivility....
i was in montreal last year and wherever i turned there were hot girls/women....
quebec may/may not be a nation but montreal is certainly full of hot girls. lol

Ok guys, I'm fucking pissed!
If I have to hear one more goddamn "Quebec french people blah blah blah" I'm gonna puke!
I live in Montreal.
I have a cottage in the Laurentiens.
My girlfriends parents live in the Eastern Townships.
And I am ENGLISH.

I have met all kinds of "different" Quebecers, and I have never met ONE Quebecer who ignored me or didn't like me because of my language. It just doesn't happen. Maybe in the smallest villages up north like St Jean, but not in the majority of Quebec.
My girlfriend's parents are separatists, but I don't give a shit, and neither do they that I'm Anglophone.

Let me set one thing straight, they do NOT want to seperate because they hate English! They just don't want to lose their culture, that's all. And you know what, I don't blame them. American industry swooped into Quebec and took alot of jobs and really changed society.
My girlfriends father used to work for CBC in the 70's and he doesn't speak very good english, and he was told that at work he was to converse with other employees, who were Francophone, in English! That's fucking ridiculous!
So I can understand why their pissed.

I don't want to seperate. I love Canada and I especially love the beauitful province of Quebec.
If you want to diss Quebec, come to Montreal and witness the multi cultural life style. It's fucking beautiful.
You won't feel the same way about Quebec.

Klein