So I just watched SiCKO...

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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Doesn't this film imply that we in the UK are totally happy with our NHS? :rolleyes:
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    national healthcare......

    run by the government.........

    would be a fucking disaster............

    Could it be any more of a disaster than it is already?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,858
    spiral out wrote:
    Could it be any more of a disaster than it is already?
    absolutely
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    national healthcare......

    run by the government.........

    would be a fucking disaster............

    are you trying to say the government has a terrible track record with success after they take over something?? ;)
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,858
    chopitdown wrote:
    are you trying to say the government has a terrible track record with success after they take over something?? ;)
    i would respond to this....

    but i have found another cause that needs my immediate attention....

    the tomato farmers for burger king are not getting paid enough money....

    I MUST GO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!

    hehehehe......
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    i would respond to this....

    but i have found another cause that needs my immediate attention....

    the tomato farmers for burger king are not getting paid enough money....

    I MUST GO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!

    hehehehe......

    if you make my combo meal price go up, I'm gonna be soooo pissed. :)
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    polaris wrote:
    it's not necessarily money that would have went to moore ... it's the trickle down effect ... the big losers are the exhibitors ... and stores that sell dvds ...


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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,858
    chopitdown wrote:
    if you make my combo meal price go up, I'm gonna be soooo pissed. :)
    i say we all boycott tomatoes.....

    FUCK KETCHUP TOO!!!!!!

    im gettin my burger with MAYO and EXTRA PICKLES!!!!!

    and im puting butter and MAYO on my french fries....

    fuck em!!!!! those tomato farmers wanna cry poor???.....i say we put their asses out of work completely!!!!!!

    i say lets make those pickle farmers rich!!!!!!!!!
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I already gave at the office....

    http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/20820902/sicko

    I downloaded it and when I try to play it it's saying that i '..may need to install a DirectShow decoder for this video format in order to play this file'. I've downloaded two DirectShow decoder's but it's still not playing. Any ideas?
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    i say we all boycott tomatoes.....

    FUCK KETCHUP TOO!!!!!!

    im gettin my burger with MAYO and EXTRA PICKLES!!!!!

    and im puting butter and MAYO on my french fries....

    fuck em!!!!! those tomato farmers wanna cry poor???.....i say we put their asses out of work completely!!!!!!

    i say lets make those pickle farmers rich!!!!!!!!!

    I say you should charge for exclamation marks. you'd be fucking rich you dork
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,858
    Specifics wrote:
    I say you should charge for exclamation marks. you'd be fucking rich you dork
    dork????

    you sound just like my mother!!!!!!!!
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I downloaded it and when I try to play it it's saying that i '..may need to install a DirectShow decoder for this video format in order to play this file'. I've downloaded two DirectShow decoder's but it's still not playing. Any ideas?

    probably the AC3 codec is missing

    dl and install this...its awesome: (agree to everything it asks....when it asks)
    http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/KLite_Mega_Codec_Pack/1080441198/1/

    The AVI will play after that.

    The VLC player is excellent at decoding virtualy anything:
    http://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10672218.html?tag=lst-0-1

    Those two downloads...bang....zoom...
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    know1 wrote:
    No thanks. I firmly believe universal or socialized healthcare would be even worse than what we have.

    I think we should outlaw health insurance and let doctors and institutions compete for patients who have to pay out of their own pockets.

    While I think that your approach sounds good on paper, I just don't see how it would work any better then what is in place now.

    What about people who can't afford health care? They would be in the same position now, but with a little lower medical bills that they could never pay.

    Also, I don't think it wouldn't help preventative care, thus making the bills higher down the road. If I have a stomach ache for a while, I might not have the few hundred dollars lying around for the doctors appointments or tests that right now would be pretty much free under my work insurance that I only pay $36 a month for. So I might ignore the stomach pain for a while and eventually have to go in and the problem is 10x worse and 10x more expensive.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    probably the AC3 codec.

    download and install this....it's good
    http://www.free-codecs.com/K_Lite_Codec_Pack_download.htm

    Cheers ears!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    blackredyellow wrote:
    While I think that your approach sounds good on paper, I just don't see how it would work any better then what is in place now.

    What about people who can't afford health care? They would be in the same position now, but with a little lower medical bills that they could never pay.

    Also, I don't think it wouldn't help preventative care, thus making the bills higher down the road. If I have a stomach ache for a while, I might not have the few hundred dollars lying around for the doctors appointments or tests that right now would be pretty much free under my work insurance that I only pay $36 a month for. So I might ignore the stomach pain for a while and eventually have to go in and the problem is 10x worse and 10x more expensive.

    That's the point. Do you think anyone's going to go to the doctor for a stomach ache if it costs them that much? So is a doctor going to look out at an empty waiting room, or is she going to try to lower the costs so that she can at least bring in some money?

    Also, think about those premiums paid by your work. What if insurance didn't exist and they gave that money to you in higher salaries. Then you might have more to spend on preventative care if you were responsible.

    Remember - we're all paying for healthcare now. It's just that it doesn't seem like it as it's withdrawn automatically from our pay and spread out over time.

    I think some eyes would be opened if your employer actually gave you the money and made you pay the health insurance premiums (which does happen in some small companies.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    probably the AC3 codec is missing

    dl and install this...its awesome: (agree to everything it asks....when it asks)
    http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/KLite_Mega_Codec_Pack/1080441198/1/

    The AVI will play after that.

    The VLC player is excellent at decoding virtualy anything:
    http://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10672218.html?tag=lst-0-1

    Those two downloads...bang....zoom...

    Just downloaded it. Works a treat. Perfect quality copy of the film too. Nice! :)
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Doesn't this film imply that we in the UK are totally happy with our NHS? :rolleyes:

    That is the only thing that bothers me about this movie (and I guess that is what you get with Moore)... He portrays other healthcare systems as basically perfect and I'm sure that's an exaggeration. However, I think his portrayal of our insurance system is spot on, and even if he is 80% right about the other countries' systems, they still have to be better than ours right now.

    The whole idea of a third-party company making money off of my health problems disgusts me... The doctor/hospital should make a profit on healthcare, that is their business and livelihood... however an outside insurance company which is in the business to make a profit will never have my (or my doctor's) best interests in mind.
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    of a sunny day
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Cheers ears!

    Sigh I had to revise my original post ...theres a codec pack and MEGA codec pack.... the mega is better...

    you can always unistall one pack for the other. But whatever does it...

    :D
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  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    know1 wrote:
    That's the point. Do you think anyone's going to go to the doctor for a stomach ache if it costs them that much? So is a doctor going to look out at an empty waiting room, or is she going to try to lower the costs so that she can at least bring in some money?

    Also, think about those premiums paid by your work. What if insurance didn't exist and they gave that money to you in higher salaries. Then you might have more to spend on preventative care if you were responsible.

    Remember - we're all paying for healthcare now. It's just that it doesn't seem like it as it's withdrawn automatically from our pay and spread out over time.

    I think some eyes would be opened if your employer actually gave you the money and made you pay the health insurance premiums (which does happen in some small companies.
    Maybe create tax free Health Savings Accounts and make participation mandatory. Mandate a certain percentage of salary that must be deposited, but otherwise employees are free to up the contribution and have complete control over where to invest the money. As a back up, institute mandatory catastophic insurance to cover serious injury & illness, similar to car insurance.
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yea, you may want to pay Canadian taxes as well. Or else we will be in the same boat as the U.S.A. we are already at threat of mass privatization of health care.
    Massp privitization of health care is a bogus scare. Everyone's family doctor is already providing privitized health care. The only thing thing people should care about is there being a single payor (gov't) at prescribed rates only.
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