Woman With Crohns Says She'll Die in US Prison without Medical Marijuana

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edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
New Marc Emery, Michelle Rainey Documentary Movie.
"Prince of Pot"
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DEA wants a Death Sentence.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    cool thanks for posting. amazing how THC cant be prescribed in cases like this. just amazing and sad. nah, lets just give her morphine :confused: btw, where you from?
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    DEA needs a death sentence.

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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    jlew24asu wrote:
    cool thanks for posting. amazing how THC cant be prescribed in cases like this. just amazing and sad. nah, lets just give her morphine :confused: btw, where you from?


    The thing I never understood about medical marijuana is that people know that THC is the active ingredient in it, so why not make it in pill form for all the people who need it? I mean it would be much easier to have quality control that way, plus smoking anything can not be good for your lungs.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    The thing I never understood about medical marijuana is that people know that THC is the active ingredient in it, so why not make it in pill form for all the people who need it? I mean it would be much easier to have quality control that way, plus smoking anything can not be good for your lungs.

    Well, yeah I agree. But nowadays 2 or 3 hits can last quite a few hours.

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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    The thing I never understood about medical marijuana is that people know that THC is the active ingredient in it, so why not make it in pill form for all the people who need it? I mean it would be much easier to have quality control that way, plus smoking anything can not be good for your lungs.

    they do...it's called Marinol. the main problems with marinol is that it takes up to an hour to work and if someone is already vomiting it's not going to even stay down. smoking marijuana works faster and is better effective than this pill

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dronabinol
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Exactly, Prism. If someone is having issues with nausea, pills aren't an option in many cases.

    Thanks for posting the list, Boston, MA. I'll check this out later tonight.
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  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    She is full of shit. Marijuana is not the only effective treatmetn for Crohn's. There are plenty of better options, including immunosuppresives ans stuff called infliximab which is a specific TNF inhibitor.

    She won't die, it's just a tactic.
    Music is not a competetion.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    She is full of shit. Marijuana is not the only effective treatmetn for Crohn's. There are plenty of better options, including immunosuppresives ans stuff called infliximab which is a specific TNF inhibitor.

    She won't die, it's just a tactic.

    Well nothing personal lucy, but you can stick your immunosuppresants. Those things are no fun for me AT ALL. And I can't say that the morphine or other drugs helped much in terms of pain management last time either, so I'll be looking at MJ next time. It might be just as useless, but I'll give it a go and see. Not saying she's not using it as a tactic, but it's not like all these pharmaceuticals work for everyone.
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  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well nothing personal lucy, but you can stick your immunosuppresants. Those things are no fun for me AT ALL. And I can't say that the morphine or other drugs helped much in terms of pain management last time either, so I'll be looking at MJ next time. It might be just as useless, but I'll give it a go and see. Not saying she's not using it as a tactic, but it's not like all these pharmaceuticals work for everyone.

    Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot, marijuana is fun !!

    Interferon is particularly nasty, the things they use for Crohn's are nowhere near as bad, and quite effective.
    MJ is maintained as an illegal substance for good reason. You should try workign here and see how many fucked up poeple there are from it, not to mentio it makes your teeth fall out becasue of the dry mouth.
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well nothing personal lucy, but you can stick your immunosuppresants. Those things are no fun for me AT ALL. And I can't say that the morphine or other drugs helped much in terms of pain management last time either, so I'll be looking at MJ next time. It might be just as useless, but I'll give it a go and see. Not saying she's not using it as a tactic, but it's not like all these pharmaceuticals work for everyone.

    I haven't any idea either if this woman is using it a tactic or not.

    but just like Jeanie implied taking immunosuppressants is NOT like eating candy...the side effects suck huge donkey balls
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    She is full of shit. Marijuana is not the only effective treatmetn for Crohn's. There are plenty of better options, including immunosuppresives ans stuff called infliximab which is a specific TNF inhibitor.

    She won't die, it's just a tactic.

    The idea is the individual is forced into a pharma bill of lading, while the preferred choice comes freely from mother nature herself.

    Fuck the DEA and fuck the Nazi fucking pharmacueticals.
    If you see it any different you've been fascismischised.

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Boston, MA wrote:
    New Marc Emery, Michelle Rainey Documentary Movie.
    "Prince of Pot"
    Targeted for Being Political Activists by DEA for Selling Seeds.
    DEA wants a Death Sentence.
    http://youtube.com/princeofpot
    Was the Crohns thing in the first part here?
    I just got through part 2...

    This dude kicks ass. Good documentary.

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot, marijuana is fun !!

    Interferon is particularly nasty, the things they use for Crohn's are nowhere near as bad, and quite effective.
    MJ is maintained as an illegal substance for good reason. You should try workign here and see how many fucked up poeple there are from it, not to mentio it makes your teeth fall out becasue of the dry mouth.


    Well perhaps I'm different to the average bear, because I don't consider MJ fun by any stretch. For ME. Mostly it makes me really sick but I can't be sure if that is to do with the way it's grown these days. I just know that interferon was more harmful than beneficial, for me, and that none of the pain medications I was given allieviated the pain or were particularly good for me either. So it's my intention to try MJ next time, as organic as I can get, and see what that does for me. I might still be "allergic" to it and it won't work but I see no reason not to try it. Particularly given my body's response to the other medications.

    As to the Crohn's meds, well I can't say that from what I've observed with a family member that they are doing her much good and I sometimes wonder if MJ would be more suitable. But then again her life is pretty much fucked anyway, so I have my doubts that anything would help. I'm all for advocating that people utilize the best option for THEM. Whatever they've tried and found to be effective.

    I'm well aware of the kinds of things that MJ can do to a person, having experienced first hand being around MANY smokers, and I can quite imagine the things you have to deal with. But just because it's illegal and other drugs are not doesn't make it less or more effective for some people. It's more to do with politics as far as I can see. Some individuals benefit from it and should be able to do that without fear or retribution.
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  • Boston, MA wrote:
    New Marc Emery, Michelle Rainey Documentary Movie.
    "Prince of Pot"
    Targeted for Being Political Activists by DEA for Selling Seeds.
    DEA wants a Death Sentence.
    http://youtube.com/princeofpot

    Thanks. I've been loosely following Marc and Michelle's plight.

    The death sentence now?

    Sigh, some of those conservative yanks are so tight assed I'll bet their shit comes out like spaghetti.
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  • She is full of shit. Marijuana is not the only effective treatmetn for Crohn's. There are plenty of better options, including immunosuppresives ans stuff called infliximab which is a specific TNF inhibitor.

    She won't die, it's just a tactic.

    Are you speaking from personal experience? No offense but who are you to say what is right for this womans life? I think you may be equally as full.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    MJ is maintained as an illegal substance for good reason. You should try workign here and see how many fucked up poeple there are from it.....

    You mean like alcohol? Prescribed pain killers?


    Hell, even fast food/junk food has had a detrimental effect on people. You see anyone outlawing Burger King's Whooper and Twinkies?

    Hydronated vegetable oils pose a far more immediate and deadly threat to the health of human beings, than marijuana ever could, and even after a public campaigne to do away with it; it's largely used in the crap these huge corporations make and sell as....."food".

    Shall we discuss the Pharmaceutical companies and the deadly crap they conjure up and sell to us, disguised as " medicine " to "heal or cure" us?

    The crap these corporations/factories pump into our air, water and soil also pose a much more immediate and deadly threat to our health; than marijuana ever could. Yet the Bush administration in all their wisdom and concern.........raised the tolerance levels for the amount of poisons and toxins these corporations could pump into our environment.

    Our meat, vegetables, dairy products and poultry contain pesticides, hormones/steroids, antibiotics and other crap which pose a much more immediate and deadly threat to our health; than marijuana ever could.

    Hmmmm....wonder why none of this crap has been outlawed?

    I say when they give Mr. Purdue, The KFC Colonel and the CEOs of the big pharmaceutical companies...... a Life Sentence or Death Sentence for poisoning our families......for decades; than they can come talk to me about marijuana.

    This is nothing but a load of crap. The Federal government couldn't care less about how marijuana may effect our health. It's about greed, money, control and power.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot, marijuana is fun !!

    Interferon is particularly nasty, the things they use for Crohn's are nowhere near as bad, and quite effective.
    MJ is maintained as an illegal substance for good reason. You should try workign here and see how many fucked up poeple there are from it, not to mentio it makes your teeth fall out becasue of the dry mouth.

    Wow….this is a new one to me. You’re makin shit up now, right? Guess those fucked up potheads can’t remember to drink water when they get drymouth, eh? :rolleyes:

    Where do you work? Please explain to me how all these people are “fucked up”, and how it was mj that caused them to be that way.
  • Wow….this is a new one to me. You’re makin shit up now, right? Guess those fucked up potheads can’t remember to drink water when they get drymouth, eh? :rolleyes:

    Where do you work? Please explain to me how all these people are “fucked up”, and how it was mj that caused them to be that way.

    One time at band camp I smoked a joint and all my teeth fell out.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Boston MA
    Boston MA Posts: 207
    The thing I never understood about medical marijuana is that people know that THC is the active ingredient in it, so why not make it in pill form for all the people who need it? I mean it would be much easier to have quality control that way, plus smoking anything can not be good for your lungs.
    There are pill forms but I think they are all synthetic? But I've heard from many patients that say the pills don't work as well and make them zonked out. For all these illnesses and maladies, the patient should decide. Many eat it, other use vaporizers both have no nasty side effects and are still illegal...