Woman With Crohns Says She'll Die in US Prison without Medical Marijuana

Boston MA

MahoganySouls wrote:

Well, according to the video you obviously did not watch, she was involved in drug trafficking.

She was granted medicinal use of MJ and abused that right.

She was involved in drug trafficking? Have you seen the evidence? What do know about it? I know Marc Emery sold some seeds and unlike all the other seed sellers in Amsterdam he got nailed because he got political and actually challenged the empty suits. So they drag in his friend an activist that very well might die in prison if he doesn't bow down and take their deal and muzzle for life? What evidence do you have that she is a drug trafficker? The DEA and DA in the USA I do not trust on this at all. And for good reason. This is a common tactic for law enforcement, charge another that person loves even if they are innocent. That's like by the book standard operating procedure in the USA and especially at the top the great evil DEA.

If you don't have evidence? That's called libel, you can be sued for that. Not that she will, she's classy unlike others that throw out libelous charges with no proof.

MahoganySouls

Boston, MA wrote:

She was involved in drug trafficking? Have you seen the evidence? What do know about it? I know Marc Emery sold some seeds and unlike all the other seed sellers in Amsterdam he got nailed because he got political and actually challenged the empty suits. So they drag in his friend an activist that very well might die in prison if he doesn't bow down and take their deal and muzzle for life? What evidence do you have that she is a drug trafficker? The DEA and DA in the USA I do not trust on this at all. And for good reason. This is a common tactic for law enforcement, charge another that person loves even if they are innocent. That's like by the book standard operating procedure in the USA and especially at the top the great evil DEA.

If you don't have evidence? That's called libel, you can be sued for that. Not that she will, she's classy unlike others that throw out libelous charges with no proof.

According to the video she approved, she is quoted as "his assistant". That therefore makes her an accomplice to his actions. They knowingly, admittedly and willingly sold drugs and drug paraphinalia. That is called trafficking.

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

As a punishment? That's the gist of your argument.

If that is how you want to look at it. She had a free ride by getting medicinal mj to treat her illness. She trumped that special privilege by choosing to participate in illegal activity.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

If that is how you want to look at it. She had a free ride by getting medicinal mj to treat her illness. She trumped that special privilege by choosing to participate in illegal activity.

Natural seeds chosen by the government, through their dominating pocket-lining links, deemed to be illegal.
It's called fascism.

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

Natural seeds chosen by the government, through their dominating pocket-lining links, deemed to be illegal.
It's called fascism.

By this reasoning, all medications should be legal and over the counter.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

By this reasoning, all medications should be legal and over the counter.

Jesus Christ. By my reasoning hemp grows naturally and needs no synthesizing as do all other over-the-counter drugs.

You can grow it yourself, but the fascists don't want you to.

MahoganySouls

My final thought for the night.

I think all drugs should be legalized to buy and consume. I also think that all drug use should be held to the same standards as alcohol use. You cannot indulge and drive. You cannot indulge and go to work. You cannot indulge and be around children. I would also add into these laws that persons who do indulge are not eligible for welfare, food stamps or public assistance of any kind. There will not be any provisions for government rehab, even in the event of commiting a crime while under the influence.

This way, yahoo's who want to get stoned all the time, who end up hooked and homeless or criminals will no longer be the concern of the general public. My tax dollars will no longer be used to support your habit.

If drugs were legal. Hopefully those who cannot control their use will eliminate themselves and no longer be a burden to society. Survival of the fittest at its best.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

My final thought for the night.

I think all drugs should be legalized to buy and consume. I also think that all drug use should be held to the same standards as alcohol use. You cannot indulge and drive. You cannot indulge and go to work. You cannot indulge and be around children. I would also add into these laws that persons who do indulge are not eligible for welfare, food stamps or public assistance of any kind. There will not be any provisions for government rehab, even in the event of commiting a crime while under the influence.

This way, yahoo's who want to get stoned all the time, who end up hooked and homeless or criminals will no longer be the concern of the general public. My tax dollars will no longer be used to support your habit.

If drugs were legal. Hopefully those who cannot control their use will eliminate themselves and no longer be a burden to society. Survival of the fittest at its best.

But if survival is dependent on the dollar... and society's health is measured by its economic well-being, how is it that the few chronic addictions/addicts here among us are thrown out and away, in your mind? We already have the panhandlers on our city streets. Are you suggesting upping the homeless population? This is a question beyond marijuana, I think. This entails alcoholism as the first and foremost addiction of choice in the America... and whatever other highly physical addictive synthesized substances out there.

Your argument lacks any sort of cohesiveness regarding community and family. And so it lacks strategy in its follow-through.

Boston MA

MahoganySouls wrote:

According to the video she approved, she is quoted as "his assistant". That therefore makes her an accomplice to his actions. They knowingly, admittedly and willingly sold drugs and drug paraphinalia. That is called trafficking.

Assistant to what? His political party? His legal head shop? His legal magazine? His medical marijuana reform group? I think you don't know when to admit you have no proof to back up your claims.

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

But if survival is dependent on the dollar... and society's health is measured by its economic well-being, how is it that the few chronic addictions there are among us are thrown away, in your mind? This is a question beyond marijuana, I think. This entails alcoholism as the first and foremost addiction of choice in the America... and whatever other highly physical addictive substances.

Your argument lacks any sort of cohesiveness regarding community and family.

OK I lied this time...not my last post.

I did say ALL DRUGS.

Community and family are disregarded by those who choose to become a drug user. It isn't society's problem to fix. Except maybe to take away their rights as parents.

MahoganySouls

Boston, MA wrote:

Assistant to what? His political party? His legal head shop? His legal magazine? His medical marijuana reform group? I think you don't know when to admit you have no proof to back up your claims.

To his selling and promoting of illegal substances. She participated. She is guilty.

Boston MA

MahoganySouls wrote:

If that is how you want to look at it. She had a free ride by getting medicinal mj to treat her illness. She trumped that special privilege by choosing to participate in illegal activity.

Illegal activity, first of all, you have shown no proof. Nothing. And you continue to go on and do it. You think it's a game. Somebody's life and you have no proof.

And second even if she was involved in selling seeds with Marc Emery, when did seeds become illegal drugs? Where is the law that makes seeds illegal? Why is it legal to sell poppy seeds (which is the start point to manufacture heroin) but not cannabis or hemp seeds?

MahoganySouls

Boston, MA wrote:

Illegal activity, first of all, you have shown no proof. And second if she was involved in selling seeds with Marc Emery. When did seeds become illegal drugs? Where is the law that makes seeds illegal? Why is it legal to sell poppy seeds but not cannabis or hemp seeds?

Wow, you're so good, you should go and be her lawyer. She would definitely win. :rolleyes:

prism

MahoganySouls wrote:

OK I lied this time...not my last post.

I did say ALL DRUGS.

Community and family are disregarded by those who choose to become a drug user. It isn't society's problem to fix. Except maybe to take away their rights as parents.

as for your first sentence....bullshit, you only need to look as far as Amsterdam to see how wrong you are.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

To his selling and promoting of illegal substances. She participated. She is guilty.

I think your thinking is an illegal substance. Go find your cell. Roll call at 6.

Boston MA

Why isn't the DEA going after seed dealers in Amsterdam and other places with saner marijuana policy who for just as long sell seeds to US customers and are still doing so?

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

I think your thinking is an illegal substance. Go find your cell. Roll call at 6.

oh how petty can you really be?

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

OK I lied this time...not my last post.

I did say ALL DRUGS.

Community and family are disregarded by those who choose to become a drug user. It isn't society's problem to fix. Except maybe to take away their rights as parents.

This is very narrow minded and cold. I understand the theory of tough love and all that when it comes to addictions, and that may have it's merits, however an all-encompassing view like yours dividing humans into sub-humans for the harmless activity of pot smoking is...

fascism.

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

This is very narrow minded and cold. I understand the theory of tough love and all that when it comes to addictions, and that may have it's merits, however and all-encompassing view like yours dividing humans into sub-humans for the harmless activity of pot smoking is...

fascism.

Harmless is subjective within this concept.

Boston MA

MahoganySouls wrote:

Wow, you're so good, you should go and be her lawyer. She would definitely win. :rolleyes:

And you should be her executioner. I'm sure you would get off on pulling the lever to kill her. Probably with a big smile and chuckle.