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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    I'll join but only if i get my super magic underpants right away... I'm not waiting.
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    MrSmith wrote:
    I'll join but only if i get my super magic underpants right away... I'm not waiting.

    Sorry, but you have to prove your Testament before you are issued your Standard Temple Undergarments.
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  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    I haven't read under the banner of heaven but after reading into thin air and other books on the topics, I'd be very careful at taking Krakauer's opinion as fact... which is how he seems to present it.

    Thank you for that. :)

    I'm reading the book for entertainment purposes only, not as if it was complete fact. I believe every author does interject a little bit of their own opinion, even if it is labeled non-fiction.

    The first part of this book is regarding the religion and its origins, which the author footnotes with corresponding books (including the book of Mormon), or news articles. The second part is how a couple of fundamentalist brothers received a message from God to kill a woman and her baby. Apparently, it was news in Utah in 1984.
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    anotherclone wrote:
    Thank you for that. :)

    I'm reading the book for entertainment purposes only, not as if it was complete fact. I believe every author does interject a little bit of their own opinion, even if it is labeled non-fiction.

    The first part of this book is regarding the religion and its origins, which the author footnotes with corresponding books (including the book of Mormon), or news articles. The second part is how a couple of fundamentalist brothers received a message from God to kill a woman and her baby. Apparently, it was news in Utah in 1984.

    Seriously. My all-time favorite book (read it 3 times)! I thought Krakauer did an excellent job explaining LDS, Fundamentalist Mormons, etc. while keeping his opinions in check.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    angelica wrote:
    I said that I completely understand people being angry and frustrated. I had a run-in with some Mormon girls this summer and I've had my issues with them in the past. I own my anger, my frustration and my lacking skills when I need to find a way to solve a problem.

    If people give themselves permission to act poorly, they continue the patterns rather than resolve them. The bottom line, again, is that we are responsible for our actions. No one else controls us. To in any way blame others for our poor behaviour cannot work.

    well i know i don't blame anyone else for my behaviour. so if you think that's what i am doing, then you are wrong. the fact that i find it offensive to be approached in regards to religion does in no way manifest itself in how i treat them when they come a-calling. sometimes i straight up tell them i'm not interested. other times when i'm in a different kind of mood, i feel like challenging them by asking them questions. when i'm feeling less than gracious i get amusement from knowing that no matter what they say to me i am not gonna cross over to their side. it would literally take jesus himself appearing to me out of thin air right in front of my eyes to get me questioning my disbelief. and me being me even then i'd be looking aorund for david blaine.
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  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Sorry, but you have to prove your Testament before you are issued your Standard Temple Undergarments.

    they don't work. they are supposed to protect your body from harm.......they scraped what was left of my father's body into a small bag. my mother was very upset they didn't work as promised.

    true story.
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    brain of c wrote:
    they don't work. they are supposed to protect your body from harm.......they scraped what was left of my father's body into a small bag. my mother was very upset they didn't work as promised.

    true story.

    Woah. I just don't know how to even respond to that. :( So sad. :(
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    angelica wrote:
    You base this on an assumption that I am speaking to or about you specifically. I am not. I said my opinion, which is my opinion in general. I have very strong opinions about people holding others in any way accountable for their own behaviour. If it happens to apply to you, it does, if not, it does not.

    I am always direct and upfront about my views. If I mean to directly confront you, I will. However, that's generally not my style. My purpose is to speak my mind, not to be "right" against the individual views of others, which I fully accept. If people want to personally connect with my opinion, and make it personal, then I stand by my opinion. It remains about my own opinion, and not about the other person for me, no matter what the other person sees.

    Are you psychic now too? How would you know what I based my point on OR even if it was an assumption?

    Anyway, you've said your opinion, I've said mine, and not wishing to "enable" you to derail yet another thread with your rabbiting on, I'm leaving it at that. Not to mention your style of communication offends me greatly and brings out the worst in me, which is completely futile because you are the all knowing, all seeing, all enlightened one and I doubt very much anything I say will make even a teensy bit of difference to you.

    Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
    When it comes to Mormons or any other religion, I have no problem, I simply reserve the right to state my views quite clearly if they are standing on my doorstep sprouting theirs. And if as a Mormon or any other religion you are offended by the way I communicate with you when you are standing on my doorstep, then don't drop by in future. If I truly wanted to be offensive and intolerant I'd get a portable cd player with my favorite loud, angry, ungodly music on it, make myself a placard or two sprouting my LOVE OF SATAN and go door knock down the local church OR fly myself over to Utah or wherever it is that Mormons congregate and harrass them with my point of view.
    I don't do that because Mormons and any other religion have the right to believe what they want to believe and I respect their right to do so. I simply wish they would learn to respect my rights too.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Jeanie wrote:
    Are you psychic now too? How would you know what I based my point on OR even if it was an assumption?

    Anyway, you've said your opinion, I've said mine, and not wishing to "enable" you to derail yet another thread with your rabbiting on, I'm leaving it at that. Not to mention your style of communication offends me greatly and brings out the worst in me, which is completely futile because you are the all knowing, all seeing, all enlightened one and I doubt very much anything I say will make even a teensy bit of difference to you.

    Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
    When it comes to Mormons or any other religion, I have no problem, I simply reserve the right to state my views quite clearly if they are standing on my doorstep sprouting theirs. And if as a Mormon or any other religion you are offended by the way I communicate with you when you are standing on my doorstep, then don't drop by in future. If I truly wanted to be offensive and intolerant I'd get a portable cd player with my favorite loud, angry, ungodly music on it, make myself a placard or two sprouting my LOVE OF SATAN and go door knock down the local church OR fly myself over to Utah or wherever it is that Mormons congregate and harrass them with my point of view.
    I don't do that because Mormons and any other religion has the right to believe what they want to believe and I respect their right to do so. I simply wish they would learn to respect my rights too.

    I got goosebumps.:p
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I got goosebumps.:p

    How come? You sitting in a draft? ;)
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    one day some mormons (or jehovah witnesses, same weirdness) knocked on my friends door......his mom answered.....

    [knock, knock]

    mom: "yes?"

    weirdos: "good day ma'am. have you spoken to jesus today?"

    mom: "why yes! he's on the phone right now. would you like to speak to him?"

    weirdos: blanks stares

    [door closes]

    all religions are weird....being raised catholic i can vouch for the weirdness....but the mormons take it to a whole other level.....i knew several mormons growing up and most were really cool....until their missions....when they returned their personalities were replaced with thousand yard stares and general creepiness...


    just thought i'd add that....:)
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Jeanie wrote:
    How come? You sitting in a draft? ;)

    Coincidentally, yes. But then again, it's Ireland - it's always cold.:D
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    cutback wrote:
    one day some mormons (or jehovah witnesses, same weirdness) knocked on my friends door......his mom answered.....

    [knock, knock]

    mom: "yes?"

    weirdos: "good day ma'am. have you spoken to jesus today?"

    mom: "why yes! he's on the phone right now. would you like to speak to him?"

    weirdos: blanks stares

    [door closes]

    all religions are weird....being raised catholic i can vouch for the weirdness....but the mormons take it to a whole other level.....i knew several mormons growing up and most were really cool....until their missions....when they returned their personalities were replaced with thousand yard stares and general creepiness...


    just thought i'd add that....:)

    hehe! :) and very well added too!

    I reckon the young fellas around here aren't too bad, they've offered to do all kinds of things to help out in the garden and the like, all of which has been politely refused. If I could just find a way to stop them coming back I'd be happy. Got to the stage with the little old ladies from the SDA's though that I had to stop answering the door! They'd appear EVERY SUNDAY MORNING without fail around 8am!!! AS IF I'm going to be pleasant at that time of the day on that day of the week! I mean c'mon even I know Sunday is sacred!!! ;)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Coincidentally, yes. But then again, it's Ireland - it's always cold.:D

    Perhaps you need a little visit from the God Squad to warm the cockles of your heart? ;):D
    NOPE!!!

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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    It's been my experience that most LDS members don't know the history of their church. For example, that Joseph Smith received his Revelation from magical "seer stones" and even fewer have never even heard of the Mountain Meadows Masacre.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanie wrote:
    hehe! :) and very well added too!

    I reckon the young fellas around here aren't too bad, they've offered to do all kinds of things to help out in the garden and the like, all of which has been politely refused. If I could just find a way to stop them coming back I'd be happy. Got to the stage with the little old ladies from the SDA's though that I had to stop answering the door! They'd appear EVERY SUNDAY MORNING without fail around 8am!!! AS IF I'm going to be pleasant at that time of the day on that day of the week! I mean c'mon even I know Sunday is sacred!!! ;)

    have you tried telling them to fuck off and not come back girlie? ;):D
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jeanie wrote:
    Perhaps you need a little visit from the God Squad to warm the cockles of your heart? ;):D
    fair warning...I'm steeling your "god squad" term.....
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    catefrances wrote:
    have you tried telling them to fuck off and not come back girlie? ;):D

    Actually no cate, I've never sworn at them. I have become more terse and less pleasant but I've never sworn at them. I've certainly stopped smiling when they appear! I have asked that they don't return though. Actually........now that I think about it it's been a while......I hate to speak too soon, but maybe they're FINALLY heeding my request! :D
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    callen wrote:
    fair warning...I'm steeling your "god squad" term.....

    Steal away love. :) It's not my term, it's actually the name of a Christian Motorcycle Club here in Australia. :) But we use the term for anybody turning up on the doorstep to pedal god. :)

    http://concernaustralia.org.au/squad/
    NOPE!!!

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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Jeanie wrote:
    Perhaps you need a little visit from the God Squad to warm the cockles of your heart? ;):D

    Believe me, my family pesters me about it enough without the God Squad showing up.;) I'll just chug some whiskey.:p
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