Stop Bashing Mormons thread

DriftingByTheStorm

i think we all need to take the time to watch this again.

How could anyone hate these poor people?

Don't you want to go to space and breed like bunnies?
It's not the mormons' fault that black people are amoral.

Ahnimus

From a completely non-bias and objective view of religions, whether you believe in aliens, marrying young or the parting of the red sea, it's all hocus pocus. It's all a children's story taken far too seriously.

I bash beliefs, not people, and mormons aren't any more ridiculous than your run-of-the-mill Christian or newager.

Ahnimus

Here is what I believe:

...the selective forces underlying the evolution of human cognitive architecture were critically connected to highly unstable climes.... Based on these considerations, I suggest that an important feature of hominid evolution was a process I have referred to as progressive externalization ...., whereby the brain's development becomes increasingly regulated by extrinsic factors, likely mediated by variation in the scheduling of various events in neural development. I suggest this process allows for flexible prefrontally mediated cognitive function, particularly in the social domain, and underlies the rapid changes in social structure that was a response to the need for buffering ecological instability. The upshot of this process was symbolic culture, which plays a central role in shaping the structures underlying human cognition. (Quartz 2001)

Austicman

Love the mormon South Park episode.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb........dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Kel Varnsen

The one thing that really impressed me after watching the thing on PBS was the fact that after Hurricane Katrina, the Mormons were one of the first groups actually on the ground in the affect areas helping people and handing out tons food and supplies (to anyone who needed them, not just other Mormons). Things like that buy the mormons a lot of goodwill in my book.

callen

jlew24asu wrote:

way too brainwashy

as are all religions....

callen

Kel Varnsen wrote:

The one thing that really impressed me after watching the thing on PBS was the fact that after Hurricane Katrina, the Mormons were one of the first groups actually on the ground in the affect areas helping people and handing out tons food and supplies (to anyone who needed them, not just other Mormons). Things like that buy the mormons a lot of goodwill in my book.

they did it for their own interests.....your post just confirms

jlew24asu

callen wrote:

as are all religions....

some more then others. I was raised catholic. I remember asking a priest, what happens if I choose not to believe in all this. he told me its ok to believe whatever you want. since then I thought being catholic was not so bad.

I wasnt buried in the dirt up to my neck and have large rocks throw at my temple until I die.

MahoganySouls

callen wrote:

as are all religions....

Religion is defined as a belief in a diety or a value system that one lives by.

Therefore, any chosen path that one walks through life with is their own personal religion. If you take this deeper, we are all "brainwashed" by something or someone that influence our conclusions. Even those who are athiest fall into this category because they believe in something they themselves have not discovered or studied or proven. Unless the thought is original to you only, your perception and "understanding" of life came from somewhere be it books, teachers, media, parents etc.

callen

MahoganySouls wrote:

Religion is defined as a belief in a diety or a value system that one lives by.

Therefore, any chosen path that one walks through life with is their own personal religion. If you take this deeper, we are all "brainwashed" by something or someone that influence our conclusions. Even those who are athiest fall into this category because they believe in something they themselves have not discovered or studied or proven. Unless the thought is original to you only, your perception and "understanding" of life came from somewhere be it books, teachers, media, parents etc.

agree.....just thought it funny Jlew made this post when I thought he had some belief in religion.....

course he did get into the vic and I didn't soooooo maybe I should start believing.

callen

jlew24asu wrote:

some more then others. I was raised catholic. I remember asking a priest, what happens if I choose not to believe in all this. he told me its ok to believe whatever you want. since then I thought being catholic was not so bad.

I wasnt buried in the dirt up to my neck and have large rocks throw at my temple until I die.

i've attended numerous catholic events...and found quite the opposite....and heck to believe in the bible takes some serious mental manipulation....on the part of the believer....so mormon, catholic whatever...same stuff.

athiests....well they don't believe in anything....so not quite as bad.......

jlew24asu

callen wrote:

i've attended numerous catholic events...and found quite the opposite

what is a catholic event and why was in a bad experience?

callen wrote:

....and heck to believe in the bible takes some serious mental manipulation....on the part of the believer....so mormon, catholic whatever...same stuff.

athiests....well they don't believe in anything....so not quite as bad.......

ok. believe whatever you want. its really none of my business.

sponger

callen wrote:

athiests....well they don't believe in anything.

Define "belief"...please.

Jeanie

I've got no problem with Mormons or any other religious person. Believe what you want. It's of no consequence to me.

Having said that, I'm rather tired of the pairs of young American fellas in their white shirts and ties rolling up on my doorstep and wishing to engage me in conversation of a religious nature. I find them as irritating as Foxtel salesmen and any other door to door salesmen.

My home is my castle. I do not venture out of my home to convince you to worship Satan or Marilyn Manson, my little brothers big toe or Fried Green Tomatoes and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. If I wished to be informed about religion, ANY religion, then I will seek out that information, otherwise stay the hell away from my doorstep! You earn no respect from me by dropping by unannounced with your agenda all set. And the same goes for those little old ladies that keep popping up from the Jehovah's or that stupid woman who refuses to believe that when our letter box says "NO ADVERTISING MATERIAL" that means flyers from the local Baptist church too!

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

I've got no problem with Mormons or any other religious person. Believe what you want. It's of no consequence to me.

Having said that, I'm rather tired of the pairs of young American fellas in their white shirts and ties rolling up on my doorstep and wishing to engage me in conversation of a religious nature. I find them as irritating as Foxtel salesmen and any other door to door salesmen.

My home is my castle. I do not venture out of my home to convince you to worship Satan or Marilyn Manson, my little brothers big toe or Fried Green Tomatoes and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. If I wished to be informed about religion, ANY religion, then I will seek out that information, otherwise stay the hell away from my doorstep! You earn no respect from me by dropping by unannounced with your agenda all set. And the same goes for those little old ladies that keep popping up from the Jehovah's or that stupid woman who refuses to believe that when our letter box says "NO ADVERTISING MATERIAL" that means flyers from the local Baptist church too!

you should see the look on their faces when in the same breath you admit to being an atheist and having read the bible. and that you continue to read the bible.
and the little old ladies that ask me where i think my children came from. i tell them they came from me and their father.
i also inform them that holding up the earth as proof of God is not a very convincing argument.
and then they ask me if they can say a prayer for me. i say no and send them on their way.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

you should see the look on their faces when in the same breath you admit to being an atheist and having read the bible. and that you continue to read the bible.
and the little old ladies that ask me where i think my children came from. i tell them they came from me and their father.
i also inform them that holding up the earth as proof of God is not a very convincing argument.
and then they ask me if they can say a prayer for me. i say no and send them on their way.

I was so over it by the last lot of fine, upstanding American boys on my doorstep, that I told then we all worship satan here! And when they said that maybe god sent them to me to help me I said perhaps they should consider that maybe "GOD" or "SATAN" may have sent them to me in order that I enlighten them to another way of thinking?!

Ridin on a Motorbike

Jeanie wrote:

I've got no problem with Mormons or any other religious person. Believe what you want. It's of no consequence to me.

Having said that, I'm rather tired of the pairs of young American fellas in their white shirts and ties rolling up on my doorstep and wishing to engage me in conversation of a religious nature. I find them as irritating as Foxtel salesmen and any other door to door salesmen.

My home is my castle. I do not venture out of my home to convince you to worship Satan or Marilyn Manson, my little brothers big toe or Fried Green Tomatoes and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. If I wished to be informed about religion, ANY religion, then I will seek out that information, otherwise stay the hell away from my doorstep! You earn no respect from me by dropping by unannounced with your agenda all set. And the same goes for those little old ladies that keep popping up from the Jehovah's or that stupid woman who refuses to believe that when our letter box says "NO ADVERTISING MATERIAL" that means flyers from the local Baptist church too!

I don't know, this past spring around easter time, my neighbors who are Mormon left a book of Mormon on our door step along with a full bag of Starburst Jelly Beans, some Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, and other candy. Any religion that gives away full bags of candy, well they are welcome at my door anytime!!!!

MahoganySouls

Jeanie wrote:

I was so over it by the last lot of fine, upstanding American boys on my doorstep, that I told then we all worship satan here! And when they said that maybe god sent them to me to help me I said perhaps they should consider that maybe "GOD" or "SATAN" may have sent them to me in order that I enlighten them to another way of thinking?!

Why would you do that? These people are simply trying to share what they find good in their lives. If you aren't interested, just say "no thank you" and close the door. Better yet, simply put a note on your door that says something to the effect "religious visitors not welcome". Simple and dignified.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

Why would you do that? These people are simply trying to share what they find good in their lives. If you aren't interested, just say "no thank you" and close the door. Better yet, simply put a note on your door that says something to the effect "religious visitors not welcome". Simple and dignified.

They're just trying to get some nookie like everyone else.

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

They're just trying to get some nookie like everyone else.

Now see, thats just silly. While I don't want to engage in conversation with them, I respect the fact that they are doing what they feel is important and loving towards their neighbors. I simply thank them for their time and tell them I'm not interested. It doesn't take sarcasm, nastiness or argument to make them go away.