Clinton on Fox

jsand wrote:

While I agree it is subjective, and will readily admit, if you couldn't tell, that I am heavily biased, I still cannot fathom that someone would watch that interview and think that Clinton sounded good. He sounded like a moron to me - "I traaad, I traaad but I failed." Great.

If you don't like to hear a President admit to making any mistakes, you must really love the current guy.

jsand wrote:

What respected interviewer doesn't try to score points in an interview?

I was responding to what's-his-face's remark, "since when is it about winning and losing?".

jsand wrote:

How is that admitting a mistake?

Okay, I'll rephrase: "admitting that he failed".

Bush wavers between calling for Bin Laden, "dead or alive"(right after 9-11) to saying that he "doesn't think about him too much"(campaign season 2004), then back to talking about how dangerous he is and how he's still a threat, etc., etc. (this year).

jsand wrote:

I know - still, I don't see how his interviewing tactics differ from anyone else's. Did you see Tim Russert grill Cheney on Meet the Press recently - that was an attack interview if I've ever seen one. It's fair game though.

The difference to me was that Wallace didn't even seem that interested in hearing the answers, he just wanted to make sure he got the righty street cred for asking the questions.

jsand wrote:

Stop trying to insult my intelligence. Of course I'm aware that he has a southern accent. I've never heard it as pronounced as it was in that interview.

I just realized that you're the same person I was responding to in another thread. I'm not stalking you, I swear.

I'm just saying, it sounded like a Southern accent to me. And it sounded like he admitted that he failed. I don't know, maybe I misheard.

One of the primary Republican tactics this election season is "let's dump the blame for this war on Clinton." It's an incorrect assessment, for one, and it needs to be countered directly. Better Clinton do it than anyone else. It's his character on the line, after all.

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

To be fair, it was campaign season. He had to make sure to let the American people know who they should and shouldn't be scared of.

"I don't think about Osama Bin Laden that much."

Translation:

"We can't find that lanky fucker for the life of us, so let's not talk about it. Vote Bush."

Definitely.

RainDog wrote:

I just realized that you're the same person I was responding to in another thread. I'm not stalking you, I swear.

I'm just saying, it sounded like a Southern accent to me. And it sounded like he admitted that he failed. I don't know, maybe I misheard.

One of the primary Republican tactics this election season is "let's dump the blame for this war on Clinton." It's an incorrect assessment, for one, and it needs to be countered directly. Better Clinton do it than anyone else. It's his character on the line, after all.

If that's the way he is going about countering the attacks, I don't think it was effective at all.

Re: the southern accent - Like I said, I've heard Clinton speak countless times, and his accent has never been that pronounced. That's why I accentuated the word "tried."

jsand wrote:

Clinton is an incredible communicator. I would never argue that. In this instance, however, he came across as desperate and pathetic.

Kind of like you are right now?

jlew24asu wrote:

its ok, you can refer to me as jlew24asu, master, sir, whatever you like. maybe I should have phrased that remark different. wallace tried to "score" points but he is more of just interviewing and asking the questions as opposed to someone like Bill O'Reilly who is looking to win the arugment.

Wallace's style was even more dumbassed than O'Reilly's, if that's possible. He was asking the questions, then attempting to move directly to the next one without really paying attention to the answers, and when President Clinton realized this, he snapped.

Milhouse VanHouten wrote:

I'm not sure you can characterize Russert as being lefty, and if he is, he's sure as hell not as far left as Wallace is to the right.

Absouletly correct- I was not trying to classify Russert as a lefty - his job is to be in the center, which he has done very well. My point was simply that his interview of Cheney communicated a lot of the left's arguments against the administration.