Clinton on Fox

ledvedderman

jlew24asu wrote:

very unprofessional move from wallace.

I don't know if I would ever put Wallace in a "classy" category, he's a right wing hit man who will take any punch he has an open shot at. He did have dumb ass smirk on his face through the whole thing.

Derrick

wow...I thought americans had more respect for their past presidents regardless of party. The guy just raised 7 billion dollars for the advancement of our society.

Learn some damn respect.

surferdude

Clinton didn't raise a cent, a small group of people made donations. To me raising money is collecting money that wouldn't have been given otherwise. Gates was already donating the money, so was Branson.

macgyver06

surferdude wrote:

Clinton didn't raise a cent, a small group of people made donations. To me raising money is collecting money that wouldn't have been given otherwise. Gates was already donating the money, so was Branson.

maybe powerful and influential voices are the reason money is being given in the first place?

surferdude

macgyver06 wrote:

maybe powerful and influential voices are the reason money is being given in the first place?

Gates has been pretty publicly committed to donating 95% of his wealth by the time he dies. Buffet just recently went public with his huge donation to the Gates Foundation. Branson has been known to do good in the past and just recently made his $3 billion over ten year pledge. This money was already being given. The causes already existed.

jlew24asu

surferdude wrote:

Clinton didn't raise a cent, a small group of people made donations. To me raising money is collecting money that wouldn't have been given otherwise. Gates was already donating the money, so was Branson.

I dont understand your point. Clinton has commited to devot his work to helping others. to say he hasnt raised a cent is just wrong. he has and will continue to do so.

enharmonic

How can Bill Clinton...nearly 6 years removed from office, STILL be more presidential than Bush?

If someone tries to nail Bush to a wall like this after his presidency, he'll self destruct right before your eyes.

Bill Clinton is a president. George Bush is a seat warmer.

hailhailkc

The amount of admiration for Bill Clinton on this board never ceases to amaze me. It's as if the guy hands out chocolates to handicapped children all day long. All of you here disdain Bush for participating in this war on terror, and rave on and on about how Bush uses Bin Laden for a straw man, and how Bush is a war monger, and how Bush is this and that, and how Bush can't catch Bin Laden...but when it comes to Clinton...he sure was a great president!!! :rolleyes:

Bush has done so much more to capture Bin Laden than Clinton ever did. I'm sure this attitude of "show a past president some respect" will never carry over in most of your attitudes towards G.W. Bush.

And speaking of smirks, it's not like Clinton didn't have a smirk of his own the whole time. Clinton was the unprofessional, out of control moron during the whole interview. Talk about an over the hill cry baby.

BeBe

gabers wrote:

First of all, that was courageous of Clinton to grant an interview to Fox News. That would be like Bushie granting an interview to Air America. Second, I think Wallace got put in his place very quickly by going on the offensive. These things Clinton said, were they public knowledge before? I bet he revealed a little more than he planned to defend himself and his policies. Wallace was so desperate to belittle Clinton but ended up being out-debated and had to try and muster up anything to get Clinton on. Great job Bill. You may have not been perfect, but damn I miss you as president!

AMEN TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BeBe

enharmonic wrote:

How can Bill Clinton...nearly 6 years removed from office, STILL be more presidential than Bush?

If someone tries to nail Bush to a wall like this after his presidency, he'll self destruct right before your eyes.

Bill Clinton is a president. George Bush is a seat warmer.

Another amen to you!!

I can't really add anymore to this thread because so many great posts have already been posted.

But many years ago, I got one of the a beautiful, well written letter from Bill Clinton and I know first hand how deeply he feels for Americans. I can't get into details about what I wrote to him about but it was important enough for someone in his staff to have made sure he got it. Yes, he did personally sign it.

Hope&Anger

hailhailkc wrote:

Bush has done so much more to capture Bin Laden than Clinton ever did.

You mean like letting bin Laden go in Tora Bora? And calling the Special Forces off bin Laden a couple of years ago? And most recently letting Musharraf's government enter into an agreement not to pursue bin Laden -- or any member of al-Qaeda -- in the Pakistani territories he's most likely to be hiding?

And let's not forget that when Clinton lobbed bombs targeting bin Laden, right-wing Republican hacks accused him of "wagging the dog." Oh, and Clinton hired Richard Clarke and took him seriously. Bush basically demoted him.

C'mon. Get real.

robbie

hailhailkc wrote:

The amount of admiration for Bill Clinton on this board never ceases to amaze me. It's as if the guy hands out chocolates to handicapped children all day long. All of you here disdain Bush for participating in this war on terror, and rave on and on about how Bush uses Bin Laden for a straw man, and how Bush is a war monger, and how Bush is this and that, and how Bush can't catch Bin Laden...but when it comes to Clinton...he sure was a great president!!! :rolleyes:

Bush has done so much more to capture Bin Laden than Clinton ever did. I'm sure this attitude of "show a past president some respect" will never carry over in most of your attitudes towards G.W. Bush.

And speaking of smirks, it's not like Clinton didn't have a smirk of his own the whole time. Clinton was the unprofessional, out of control moron during the whole interview. Talk about an over the hill cry baby.

i agree with you about the respect for past president nonsense. i do not respect george bush now, and i do not think he is deserving of respect after he leaves office. it is the media's job to ask these questions, to be hard on the government. ask tough uncomfortable questions. i will probably enjoy fox news when the democrats are in power because they will criticize the authority. the problem with the media is that they too often fail to ask the questions that the public wants answered. a media that simply cheerleeads for the administration is not doing its job. fox news is pathetic in their rhetoric about how unamerican it is to question the president, but you can bet your ass they will be VERY disrespectful to the office when it is held by a democrat. if these same questions were regularly asked of the current administration, they would look far more ridiculous than clinton. this administration is incapable of answering any question without invoking september 11th. i was no fan of bill clinton when he was president, and i do not believe an office is worthy of respect, respect should be earned. the current president will never have my respect. he is deserving of nothing but disdain. and should be treated as such. in this country, you should be able to hold the president accountable.

aNiMaL

I just watched this 3 part interview on youtube.......damn!!! That was fucking great!!! President Clinton is the fucking MAN!! Way to put FOX News in check. I sure miss him as president.

Open

America just got reminded what a real president should sound like.

PaperPlates

Open wrote:

America just got reminded what a real president should sound like.

Clinton was just as bad a president as Bush is, just in different ways and for different reasons. When throwing Clinton out there as your parties "best foot forward" is all you have, your party is truly desparate.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Always a riot hearing old Billy tell someone they're not being honest. Even funnier to hear him talk about how bad the Iraq war is, considering his administration killed many more Iraqis (mostly little kids) with almost a decade of sanctions.

blackredyellow

hailhailkc wrote:

The amount of admiration for Bill Clinton on this board never ceases to amaze me. It's as if the guy hands out chocolates to handicapped children all day long. All of you here disdain Bush for participating in this war on terror, and rave on and on about how Bush uses Bin Laden for a straw man, and how Bush is a war monger, and how Bush is this and that, and how Bush can't catch Bin Laden...but when it comes to Clinton...he sure was a great president!!! :rolleyes:

Bush has done so much more to capture Bin Laden than Clinton ever did. I'm sure this attitude of "show a past president some respect" will never carry over in most of your attitudes towards G.W. Bush.

I don't think in this political age that we will ever have a "great" president. There is too much money and influence, and too much media attention on the negative for someone to be considered great, but I do think that the success of a presidency is compairing the state of the nation before and after their terms. Unless something amazing happens in the next couple of years, there is no way that we will be better off in 2009 then we were in 2001. However, with Clinton's presidency, I think that we were better off after his terms were over.

So maybe Clinton wasn't a great president, but he was a leader, and could convey a strong, positive vision for our country to us, and to the world. It's going to take several years of someone with that sort of charisma and humility to start to rebuild all of the international bridges that this administration burned and bombed away.

To take a page from the right wing side, you can't compare what Bush has done about bin laden post 9/11 to what Clinton did pre-9/11. Isn't that what is always said? "it's a different world since 9/11". While Clinton didn't do a very good job with, or maybe pay enough attention to bin laden, Bush did absolutely nothing prior to 9/11... absolutely nothing.

blackredyellow

Saturnal wrote:

Always a riot hearing old Billy tell someone they're not being honest. Even funnier to hear him talk about how bad the Iraq war is, considering his administration killed many more Iraqis (mostly little kids) with almost a decade of sanctions.

You mean the sanctions that George H.W. Bush's administration put on Iraq?

lalalalaaaaaaaa

blackredyellow wrote:

You mean the sanctions that George H.W. Bush's administration put on Iraq?

The same ones Clinton kept going for his entire term.

blackredyellow

Saturnal wrote:

The same ones Clinton kept going for his entire term.

Yes, and the ones where this administration kept going for a couple years, even though they now say they went to war in Iraq to help the people there. I guess they didn't care too much during the first couple years if the sanctions were that bad.