Eddie, VH1, and Conservatives

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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    mammasan wrote:
    Wow did his comment really affect you that much. You shouldn't be so thin-skinned.

    you shouldnt offer unsolicited life advice. It affected me enough to participate in threads dedicated to the discussion of said comments. Have my comments affected you so much and are you so thin skinned that you cant just let me have my opinions, and get off my ass?
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    mammasan wrote:
    Wow did his comment really affect you that much. You shouldn't be so thin-skinned.

    I don't think he was effected, I think he just wanted Ed to raise an insightful point. That's what's so funny, you can figuratively (not literally) see the steam pouring out of his ears...and all you hear is...uhh...yeahh....and by the time you figure out what the hell he was mysteriously alluding to, he's trying to make another point without being direct.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    El_Kabong wrote:
    stone is actually pretty giving when it comes to contributions...liberal contributions

    http://opensecrets.org/indivs/index.asp

    2004
    GOSSARD, STONE
    BELLEVUE,WA 98005
    PEARL JAM/MUSICIAN
    6/9/2004
    $5,000
    New Apollo Energy

    GOSSARD, STONE
    SANTA MONICA,CA 90405
    SELF EMPLOYED/MUSICIAN
    5/12/2004
    $2,000
    Kerry, John

    GOSSARD, STONE
    SANTA MONICA,CA 90411
    SELF EMPLOYED/MUSICIAN
    9/17/2003
    $2,000
    Dean, Howard

    GOSSARD, STONE
    SANTA MONICA,CA 90405
    SELF/MUSICIAN
    10/8/2004
    $1,302
    America Coming Together

    GOSSARD, STONE
    BELLEVUE,WA 98005
    SELF-EMPLOYED/MUSICIAN
    5/25/2004
    $1,000
    No Vote Left Behind

    GOSSARD, STONE
    BELLEVUE,WA 98005
    SELF-EMPLOYED/MUSICIAN
    9/24/2004
    $1,000
    No Vote Left Behind

    GOSSARD, STONE
    SANTA MONICA,CA 90405
    MUSICIAN
    5/25/2004
    $1,000
    No Vote Left Behind

    GOSSARD, STONE
    SANTA MONICA,CA 90405
    SELF/MUSICIAN
    10/9/2004
    $372
    America Coming Together

    2000:
    GOSSARD, STONE MR
    BELLEVUE,WA 98005
    SELF-EMPLOYED/MUSICIAN
    7/17/2000
    $2,000
    Nader, Ralph


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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    you shouldnt offer unsolicited life advice. It affected me enough to participate in threads dedicated to the discussion of said comments. Have my comments affected you so much and are you so thin skinned that you cant just let me have my opinions, and get off my ass?

    Dude lighten up life's too short to be so uptight. Sorry just some more unsolicited life advice.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    I refuse to consider life advice from someone who starts their sentences with the word dude. :)
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    I don't think he was effected, I think he just wanted Ed to raise an insightful point. That's what's so funny, you can figuratively (not literally) see the steam pouring out of his ears...and all you hear is...uhh...yeahh....and by the time you figure out what the hell he was mysteriously alluding to, he's trying to make another point without being direct.


    Regardless of Eddie intent when he made the comment he a muscian who's opinion shouldn't matter that much to get your undies in a knot. That's my point.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    mammasan wrote:
    Regardless of Eddie intent when he made the comment he a muscian who's opinion shouldn't matter that much to get your undies in a knot. That's my point.


    I dont wear undies. In fact, I prefer to argue over the internet while wearing nothing but a string of bullets and my nascar hat. Oh yea, and my set of blinders. Plaid. For stone. :)
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    2K for H-Dean....wow, and I thought putting 10 bucks on the Falcons to win the Super Bowl at 15:1 was stupid.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I refuse to consider life advice from someone who starts their sentences with the word dude. :)

    I refuse to take someone, who calls themselves disposable kitchenware, seriously. :)
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    mammasan wrote:
    I refuse to take someone, who calls themselves disposable kitchenware, seriously. :)


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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    mammasan wrote:
    Regardless of Eddie intent when he made the comment he a muscian who's opinion shouldn't matter that much to get your undies in a knot. That's my point.

    I can't speak for PaperPlates, but I think that those of us that disagree are more amused than upset.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    PaperPlates wrote:
    R-e-d-u-n-d-a-n-c-y is priceless to me.


    information obviously isn't

    hey, thanks for another wonderful contribution, pal
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    RainDog wrote:
    Actually, I agree with both you and Stone - I think Kerry would have been a pretty good president (still have my bumper sticker on - but that might just be because I'm lazy and have a shitty car). Hell, he was the first major party candidate that ever got my vote for POTUS. And for me, it wasn't just because Bush was in office.

    And, while I'm not sure I'd consider myself "far left," I have no real love for the DLC as an organization.

    I remember really hearing Kerry for the first time on Hardball the week of the first Democratic primary... I just remember being impressed that he actually answered each question clearly and directly. He actually didn't sound like a politician, and that impression stuck with me through his whole awful campaign. I kept wishing that the Kerry I saw that first night would show up again before November, but unfortunately besides a few rare glimpses, he never did.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    I can't speak for PaperPlates, but I think that those of us that disagree are more amused than upset.


    Upset isnt the right word. Id say disappointed. I think the fact that conservatives still go to their shows, and read articles on them, and go to forums dedicated to them, despite their obvious differences says alot about those conservatives. And I honestly have no real problem with eddie's ramblings. (You know, they call him talking in concert "ramblings" on bootlegs for a reason, thats all it really is) I'm just disappointed. Thought this could have been so much more. Its not like were sitting here 24/7 steaming over ed's words. Theres a thread about it. Several. We participated. Forgive us. From now on, when you dont want any conservatives to voice their opinions, label the threads FOR LIBERALS ONLY>>>>OPPOSING VIEWS NOT WELCOME and we'll gladly oblige.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I remember really hearing Kerry for the first time on Hardball the week of the first Democratic primary... I just remember being impressed that he actually answered each question clearly and directly. He actually didn't sound like a politician, and that impression stuck with me through his whole awful campaign. I kept wishing that the Kerry I saw that first night would show up again before November, but unfortunately besides a few rare glimpses, he never did.

    He did before he didn't.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    El_Kabong wrote:
    information obviously isn't

    hey, thanks for another wonderful contribution, pal

    back atcha, buddy. You're 100% right. I have no use for your misinformation. Thanks but no thanks. But maybe if you post it 10,000 times, ill start buying into it. Then again, maybe not.

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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Upset isnt the right word. Id say disappointed. I think the fact that conservatives still go to their shows, and read articles on them, and go to forums dedicated to them, despite their obvious differences says alot about those conservatives. And I honestly have no real problem with eddie's ramblings. (You know, they call him talking in concert "ramblings" on bootlegs for a reason, thats all it really is) I'm just disappointed. Thought this could have been so much more. Its not like were sitting here 24/7 steaming over ed's words. Theres a thread about it. Several. We participated. Forgive us. From now on, when you dont want any conservatives to voice their opinions, label the threads FOR LIBERALS ONLY>>>>OPPOSING VIEWS NOT WELCOME and we'll gladly oblige.

    Dude, I wouldn't be disappointed. Ed is extremely articulate in writing song lyrics and I can identify with the sentiments in songs like Insignificanc even though I disagree with the specifics because he's that damn good....

    But he's SOOO bad at articulating his opinions, which was quite evident for quite some time. To me, it's like reading a reactionary thread on here...I find it hilarious. Brevity and directness is a virtue...Ed is able to achieve these in song, but not in conversation.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    PaperPlates wrote:
    you shouldnt offer unsolicited life advice. It affected me enough to participate in threads dedicated to the discussion of said comments. Have my comments affected you so much and are you so thin skinned that you cant just let me have my opinions, and get off my ass?
    The thing is, the whole idea of a message board is that you post your opinion, then others post their response to your opinion. That's sorta how it works. If you don't care to hear others' opinions of your opinion, you don't post it. Pretty simple, really.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    PaperPlates wrote:
    back atcha, buddy. You're 100% right. I have no use for your misinformation. Thanks but no thanks. But maybe if you post it 10,000 times, ill start buying into it. Then again, maybe not.

    <edited for mindless babble>


    i only posted it once before...and a few pages into the thread it was brought up by someone else, then someone said they didn't see it...so i posted it so they could...

    how is posting a list of campaign contributions 'misinformation'? just b/c you don't agree w/ the views doesn't make it any less true, no matter how hard you wish it to be. are you saying you doubt the validity of the list?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Upset isnt the right word. Id say disappointed. I think the fact that conservatives still go to their shows, and read articles on them, and go to forums dedicated to them, despite their obvious differences says alot about those conservatives. And I honestly have no real problem with eddie's ramblings. (You know, they call him talking in concert "ramblings" on bootlegs for a reason, thats all it really is) I'm just disappointed. Thought this could have been so much more. Its not like were sitting here 24/7 steaming over ed's words. Theres a thread about it. Several. We participated. Forgive us. From now on, when you dont want any conservatives to voice their opinions, label the threads FOR LIBERALS ONLY>>>>OPPOSING VIEWS NOT WELCOME and we'll gladly oblige.


    I have no problem with entertaining others opposing views I just find the level to which this has affected you to be interesting. You can talk about it all you want I have no problem with it. Secondly no one hear is preventing you from expressing you opinions and views. People may disagree with you and counter you points with their own but that's what we are here for to discuss and debate. So you can quit with this you don't want to hear our opinion bullshit because it seems to me that it is you who has a problem when someone disagrees with you.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul

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