Rev. Jerry Falwell Dead

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I'd say the media is more responsible for dividing people than Jerry Falwell was.

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    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I'd say the media is more responsible for dividing people than Jerry Falwell was.

    I have spent the last 30 years forming the religious right. I write a letter every week and send a newspaper every month to 200,000 pastors who are broadly called evangelicals, bringing them up to date on what is happening in Washington, in the state capitals, in the culture, and what we need to do about it. And of course I'm criticized for it, and of course I have calculated the positives and the negatives, but I have long been at peace with what I do.

    JERRY FALWELL, Newsweek, Aug. 14, 2006
    ~!~ Peace ~!~ Love ~!~ Pearl Jam ~!~
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I'd say the media is more responsible for dividing people than Jerry Falwell was.

    I would have to agree. If the media never reprinted any of Falwell's comments the only people that would have heard him are the people that follow. The majority of the country would be oblivious to his hatefull rhetoric.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    darthvedder88 wrote:
    Morally he was a good guy

    Really? Your idea of what constitutes 'morality' obviously differs from that of much of the rest of the human race - excepting neo-cons, and Nazis.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6659457.stm

    '...his alliance with Republicans in the 1980s was a key help in the elections of Ronald Reagan as president and many political leaders have since continued to seek his support.

    Mr Falwell was a strong opponent of abortion, homosexuality and many other issues that conflicted with his fundamentalist Christian beliefs.

    His statements on feminism and race issues often outraged liberals.

    In 2002, he sparked anger across the Muslim world by calling the Prophet Muhammad a "terrorist". He later apologised.

    Shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks, he said that gays, atheists, civil-rights activists and legal abortions in the US had angered God and "helped this happen".

    In 1999, he denounced the BBC TV children's show The Teletubbies, because he believed one character, Tinky Winky, was homosexual.'
  • StuffnJunk
    StuffnJunk Posts: 897
    and i hope that you die
    and you're death will come soon
    i'll follow your casket in the pale afternoon
    and i'll watch as you're lowered
    into your deathbed
    and i'll stand over your grave til i'm sure that you're dead
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Would you extend this sentiment to everyone? Including Ariel Sharon or Hitler?


    this weak insulting comparison/argument has already been made, thanks. Read through the thread, someone beat you to this piss poor analogy. Falwell didnt kill millions.......last I checked. There's shitty human beings, and then there's guys like hitler.
    Why go home

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Really? Your idea of what constitutes 'morality' obviously differs from that of much of the rest of the human race - excepting neo-cons, and Nazis.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6659457.stm

    '...his alliance with Republicans in the 1980s was a key help in the elections of Ronald Reagan as president and many political leaders have since continued to seek his support.

    Mr Falwell was a strong opponent of abortion, homosexuality and many other issues that conflicted with his fundamentalist Christian beliefs.

    His statements on feminism and race issues often outraged liberals.

    In 2002, he sparked anger across the Muslim world by calling the Prophet Muhammad a "terrorist". He later apologised.

    Shortly after the 11 September 2001 attacks, he said that gays, atheists, civil-rights activists and legal abortions in the US had angered God and "helped this happen".

    In 1999, he denounced the BBC TV children's show The Teletubbies, because he believed one character, Tinky Winky, was homosexual.'


    The guy was a definite religious fanatic. No doubt about it to those who knew anything about him.

    Reminds me of the Wesboro Baptist folks.....the same delusional religious framework for the breeding of hatred and societal lunacy...

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    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    PaperPlates wrote:
    this weak insulting comparison/argument has already been made, thanks. Read through the thread, someone beat you to this piss poor analogy. Falwell didnt kill millions.......last I checked. There's shitty human beings, and then there's guys like hitler.

    Hitler was a politician. A twisted fuck who brainwashed people into carrying out his dirty work. He didn't personally kill 6 - 10 million Jews. Ordinary Germans susceptible to indoctrination did. Even Hitler had to begin somewhere. Genocide begins with propaganda - hateful propaganda. Jerry Falwell spouted hateful, stupid propaganda.
    Fuck him! His body should be burned in a trash bin along with Donald Rumsfelds.
  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    He said it, not me.
    “I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed”

    “AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

    “The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

    “Now we're looking at what we really started on 30 years ago, reconstruction of a court system gone awry.”
    “If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

    “The whole (global warming) thing is created to destroy America's free enterprise system and our economic stability”
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    He said it, not me.
    “I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed”

    “AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

    “The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

    “Now we're looking at what we really started on 30 years ago, reconstruction of a court system gone awry.”
    “If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

    “The whole (global warming) thing is created to destroy America's free enterprise system and our economic stability”

    ...can you imagine the type of person that supports him? I mean the guy died and all, but he didn't really live or actually qualify for life either... ultimately anyone that spouts or maintains that mindset is human garbage...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    He said it, not me.
    “I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed”

    “AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

    “The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”

    “Now we're looking at what we really started on 30 years ago, reconstruction of a court system gone awry.”
    “If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

    “The whole (global warming) thing is created to destroy America's free enterprise system and our economic stability”

    What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.

    Edit: RolandTD20Kdrummer beat me to it.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    ...can you imagine the type of person that supports him?


    33 years on this earth, and I've yet to meet one. So, no.
    Why go home

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  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.

    Edit: RolandTD20Kdrummer beat me to it.


    That's the worst part about this. They can't differentiate the respect that average people deserve (warts and all, we all make friends and enemies) with the scum of the earth who preach mass hatred by the millions. It's a shame that some can't differentiate. That's why we have the masses of sheep allowing scum like him make millions.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.

    Edit: RolandTD20Kdrummer beat me to it.

    I got to it faster because there's 1/10th of a second online delay from the U.S. to South Korea :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
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  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    A Fellow Freak (as Ed referred to JL), had it exact, even back then....

    Instant Karma's gonna get you
    Gonna knock you right on the head
    You better get yourself together
    Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
    What in the world you thinking of
    Laughing in the face of love
    What on earth you tryin' to do
    It's up to you, yeah you

    Instant Karma's gonna get you
    Gonna look you right in the face
    Better get yourself together darlin'
    Join the human race
    How in the world you gonna see
    Laughin' at fools like me
    Who in the hell d'you think you are
    A super star
    Well, right you are

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Well we all shine on
    Ev'ryone come on

    Instant Karma's gonna get you
    Gonna knock you off your feet
    Better recognize your brothers
    Ev'ryone you meet
    Why in the world are we here
    Surely not to live in pain and fear
    Why on earth are you there
    When you're ev'rywhere
    Come and get your share

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Yeah we all shine on
    Come on and on and on on on
    Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Yeah we all shine on
    On and on and on on and on

    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Well we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    Yeah we all shine on
    Like the moon and the stars and the sun
    ~!~ Peace ~!~ Love ~!~ Pearl Jam ~!~
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I got to it faster because there's 1/10th of a second online delay from the U.S. to South Korea :D

    ;)
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    More Falwell quotes:

    ON THE ANTICHRIST:

    'If he's going to be the counterfeit of Christ, he has to be Jewish. The only thing we know is he must be male and Jewish.'

    ON THE TELETUBBIES:

    As a Christian I feel that role modelling the gay lifestyle is damaging to the moral lives of children.

    ON THE 9/11 ATTACKS:

    The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    That's the worst part about this. They can't differentiate the respect that average people deserve (warts and all, we all make friends and enemies) with the scum of the earth who preach mass hatred by the millions. It's a shame that some can't differentiate. That's why we have the masses of sheep allowing scum like him make millions.

    True. In a more civilized world, people like Falwell would be laughed at. Unfortunately millions end up hanging on his every word instead. We saw in 1933 how dangerous this can be. If I had it my way I'd have had the pudgy little pervert tarred and feathered and pelted with rotten fruit.
  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    the moral majority is neither....



    fuck you falwell!
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    As much as I personally disliked the guy, I can't excuse myself to rejoice in his death. That would allow me to spew the same hate that I despised him for spreading.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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