Saay NO to violence against women!
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Jeanie wrote:Well I'd say all the people that I know that have signed petitions have also been involved in other efforts to bring awareness and change for a particular issue. And it's not like petitions haven't made a difference either.
We can't all give money, and not all of us are powerful enough to make change on our own, but there's a lot to be said for people that are willing to give their time and effort being knocked back by people that don't care just so that an issue can be brought to the public eye. Petitions are an excellent way to unify, educate and lodge protest.
I'd have to say that this petition is probably a damn sight more useful in raising awareness about violence against women than the millions of dollars in adverstising that our Federal government spent paying lip service to the issue.
I don't see the harm in signing this petition, either.
yeah I suppose there will always be some that think I'm a dumb fuck for signing this petition and having volunteered at a women's domestic violence shelter. I did volunteer there a couple of years after having to use their services myself after getting my kids and I away from their abusive father. as I also suppose that there will always be some that think that i should've continued to stick around for the beatings and emotional and verbal abuse so that my kids could've had their Daddy in the home.*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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prism wrote:I don't see the harm in signing this petition, either.
yeah I suppose there will always be some that think I'm a dumb fuck for signing this petition and having volunteered at a women's domestic violence shelter. I did volunteer there a couple of years after having to use their services myself after getting my kids and I away from their abusive father. as I also suppose that there will always be some that think that i should've continued to stick around for the beatings and emotional and verbal abuse so that my kids could've had their Daddy in the home.
Well there will always be people that don't think an issue is relevent simply because it has never affected them. It's a shame that some people are only worried about themselves and can only see something as a problem or an injustice if it directly effects them. There will always be people that want to pretend there is no such thing as domestic violence and there will always be people that feel the need to negate another's experience. But the way I see it that just means the rest of us have to work harder. By signing the petition and having it presented to the powers that be and the general population at large it does bring awareness. It says that there are x amount of people that see this injustice and want it stopped. Hopefully this will then raise more awareness and eventually lead to better education, more supports, better laws relating to domestic violence. It might be only a small step to sign the petition but it's a worthy one and certainly as far as I can see will lead to bigger and better things.
I'm sorry about your ex. It never ceases to amaze me the things people do to each other. Not just abusers but those who enable them with their silence or their stupid, un considered comments directed at the victims of domestic violence. When I think of some of the stupid, uninformed comments that were directed at me, I really have to wonder at some people's inability to empathize.NOPE!!!
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I don't wish to turn this thread into 'who's had the toughest life' but I'm a bit annoyed at people who mention signing the petition as a sort of popularity contest. It hit a nerve with me.
Some people care. I, like some others on here have experienced it first hand and I STILL thank my lucky stars that I live in an apparent civilised country.
If any of you want to be that negative and picky, read the article. The worst it could do is take away a few minutes of your time.
Good work CaterinaA!0 -
I am appalled by surferdude and know1's posts.
Do you guys realize that until the mid-70s domestic violence and rape could not be prosecuted in Italy, and that rape was a crime against morals instead of a crime against a person? That's still the case in many countries.
Wake up, dudes :rolleyes:... and the will to show I will always be better than before.0 -
meme wrote:I am appalled by surferdude and know1's posts.
Do you guys realize that until the mid-70s domestic violence and rape could not be prosecuted in Italy, and that rape was a crime against morals instead of a crime against a person? That's still the case in many countries.
Wake up, dudes :rolleyes:
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MattCameronKicksButt wrote:I don't wish to turn this thread into 'who's had the toughest life' but I'm a bit annoyed at people who mention signing the petition as a sort of popularity contest. It hit a nerve with me.
Some people care. I, like some others on here have experienced it first hand and I STILL thank my lucky stars that I live in an apparent civilised country.
If any of you want to be that negative and picky, read the article. The worst it could do is take away a few minutes of your time.
Good work CaterinaA!
I've always considered myself extremely lucky to live in Australia and enjoy the freedoms I have as a woman. I shudder to think what my life would be like if I'd been born a woman in Africa or some of the Arab countries, well pretty much anywhere other than here I guess.
The way I see it shitty stuff happened to me and I was lucky enough to be in a country where I could get out of it with my life in tact. Others are not so fortunate.NOPE!!!
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prism wrote:I don't see the harm in signing this petition, either.
yeah I suppose there will always be some that think I'm a dumb fuck for signing this petition and having volunteered at a women's domestic violence shelter. I did volunteer there a couple of years after having to use their services myself after getting my kids and I away from their abusive father. as I also suppose that there will always be some that think that i should've continued to stick around for the beatings and emotional and verbal abuse so that my kids could've had their Daddy in the home.
there is no harm. im saying i see no use in signing it. i dont know who would say you're a dumb fuck for volunteering at a domestic violence shelter. all im saying is signing the petition is a waste of my time. i never sign internet petitions. it's even more worthless than voting in an american election.0 -
This reminds me of that thread on AET about the Egyptian woman who divorced her husband because he smelt. I just don't buy it. 0
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soulsinging wrote:there is no harm. im saying i see no use in signing it. i dont know who would say you're a dumb fuck for volunteering at a domestic violence shelter. all im saying is signing the petition is a waste of my time. i never sign internet petitions. it's even more worthless than voting in an american election.
I haven't been called a dumb fuck per se, but i've been told that it was stupid of me and besides "those women" must have done something to deserve being hit
yeah dude, as if apathy isn't already a part of the problem that allows men to get away with abuse*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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Jeanie wrote: I've always considered myself extremely lucky to live in Australia and enjoy the freedoms I have as a woman. I shudder to think what my life would be like if I'd been born a woman in Africa or some of the Arab countries, well pretty much anywhere other than here I guess.
The way I see it shitty stuff happened to me and I was lucky enough to be in a country where I could get out of it with my life in tact. Others are not so fortunate.
exactly. (well not the Australia part
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just imagine living in a culture and soceiety where dometic violence is not just tolerated but condoned. where these women have absolutely no where to turn. there are many parts of this world where women are still seen as being the property of their husbands. (or fathers or any male member of their household for that matter)
if this brings more awareness to it, it's alot better than pretending that these things never happen*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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prism wrote:exactly. (well not the Australia part )
just imagine living in a culture and soceiety where dometic violence is not just tolerated but condoned. where these women have absolutely no where to turn. there are many parts of this world where women are still seen as being the property of their husbands. (or fathers or any male member of their household for that matter)
if this brings more awareness to it, it's alot better than pretending that these things never happen
aaw c'mon pris!
Things are pretty cool here in the Lucky Country!
Especially this week!
Yep! That's exactly why I support things like this. Because women do have such a shitty deal of it in so many countries around the world. That half the world's population can be bullied, tortured and killed by the other half of the population simply for being born the wrong sex is NEVER going to be ok.
And no not all men abuse and not all women are abused but it's a substantial enough statistic to warrant sweeping changes being required. The way I see it ANYTHING we can do to stamp it out is a good thing.
And before I'm accused of being a feminazi and anti men. I think ALL violence against people should be stopped. But there's no reason not to specifically focus on violence against women while such blatant discrepancy still exists in the world.NOPE!!!
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prism wrote:exactly. (well not the Australia part )
just imagine living in a culture and soceiety where dometic violence is not just tolerated but condoned. where these women have absolutely no where to turn. there are many parts of this world where women are still seen as being the property of their husbands. (or fathers or any male member of their household for that matter)
if this brings more awareness to it, it's alot better than pretending that these things never happen
so we fight the taliban because of, amongst other things, their horrendous oppressive attitude to women. when are we invading saudi arabia? or china?hear my name
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seriously? that's fucked up.prism wrote:I haven't been called a dumb fuck per se, but i've been told that it was stupid of me and besides "those women" must have done something to deserve being hit
what's not signing an internet petition got to do with people getting away with spousal abuse? i'm not apathetic, i just think online petitions are pointless. always have. doesn't matter what the topic is.prism wrote:yeah dude, as if apathy isn't already a part of the problem that allows men to get away with abuse0 -
soulsinging wrote:seriously? that's fucked up.
what's not signing an internet petition got to do with people getting away with spousal abuse? i'm not apathetic, i just think online petitions are pointless. always have. doesn't matter what the topic is.
Yes, the man was a neighbor and Baptist preacher too. I hadn't even asked him and I certainly wasn't in his Church. he offered up his opinion after over-hearing something my daughter said to me. he told me that "he saw no need for women's d.v. shelters because afterall 'those women' must be doing things to deserve it. and if 'those women' would just change their ways as not to make their husbands angry then domestic violence would cease to exist." :rolleyes:
I was so dumbfounded i didn't know how to respond. I swear it took everything I had not to kick him in the balls before i turned and walked away shaking my head.
that's fine if you don't want to sign it, no one says that you have to. however, I don't happen to think that casting attention onto an important subject as being pointless.
as for apathy towards domestic violence (I'm not saying this applies to you) how many times do people turn away when seeing or hearing anything to do with d.v. taking place because "it's none of MY concern so why should I care?"*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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catefrances wrote:so we fight the taliban because of, amongst other things, their horrendous oppressive attitude to women. when are we invading saudi arabia? or china?
you know that it's okay when the Saudi's (because of their oil) and the Chinese (because of thier cheap goods produced by slave labor) do it!
it's not as though Bush and Co. are going to say or do anything to offend their best butt buddies in big business. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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prism wrote:Yes, the man was a neighbor and Baptist preacher too. I hadn't even asked him and I certainly wasn't in his Church. he offered up his opinion after over-hearing something my daughter said to me. he told me that "he saw no need for women's d.v. shelters because afterall 'those women' must be doing things to deserve it. and if 'those women' would just change their ways as not to make their husbands angry then domestic violence would cease to exist." :rolleyes:
I was so dumbfounded i didn't know how to respond. I swear it took everything I had not to kick him in the balls before i turned and walked away shaking my head.
that's fine if you don't want to sign it, no one says that you have to. however, I don't happen to think that casting attention onto an important subject as being pointless.
as for apathy towards domestic violence (I'm not saying this applies to you) how many times do people turn away when seeing or hearing anything to do with d.v. taking place because "it's none of MY concern so why should I care?"
i think you'd have been totally justified castrating him on the spot.
that's my point though... i dont see how signing an internet petition raises any awareness?0 -
I am also against violence towards me. so please, dont commit violence against me.0
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MrSmith wrote:I am also against violence towards me. so please, dont commit violence against me.
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soulsinging wrote:i think you'd have been totally justified castrating him on the spot.
that's my point though... i dont see how signing an internet petition raises any awareness?
yeah, it's too bad I wasn't willing to spend years in prison in order to do just that. even though he was a man in his 70's and came from a time where it was acceptable and common-place he still deserve at least a kick to the sack.
I mean my Dad was near 70 at that time and he would've never said anything so ignorant. and never hit a woman or child in his life....he saved that shit for other men in drunken bar brawls
yeah it's a cliche'; but even if it cast attention on the subject for just one person, it's a step in the right direction*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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