Call for lethal injection boycott

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  • writersu
    writersu Posts: 1,867
    even flow? wrote:
    Would a more humane way be to axe the person the same way they took care of their innocent victim?


    yeah, I`was thinking about their victims...........who did not choose this
    Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......


    Together we will float like angels.........

    In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Of course a third option is the Wheel of Pain from Conan the Barbarian.


    i'm all for that.

    as far as the other, isn't that what the trail is for?

    why can prisoners appeal, but we can't bring O.J. back to trial?

    once he was found innocent, that was it
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    soulsinging wrote:
    you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course?

    hmmm... you are arguing with someone who advocates taking them (I assume he/she decides who "they" are himself/herself), shooting them, hang them and burn them.

    I think he may be after those wasteomoney defense lawyers next.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    yr wrong

    i suppose you have a lot of support for that contention? my memory isn't 100% but it WAS only a year ago that i took criminal law at one of the nation's top law schools... i doubt i'd have gotten that backwards already. of course, that's on top of every study i ever read on the death penalty, from high school on through this past summer when i worked for the justice system in one of the nation's largest cities.

    but what do i know? clearly, you're the expert, as demonstrated by that well researched and unimpeachable response.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    i'm all for that.

    as far as the other, isn't that what the trail is for?

    why can prisoners appeal, but we can't bring O.J. back to trial?

    once he was found innocent, that was it

    trail? you mean trial? jesus, what grade are you in? i'll stop arguing with you if you're in junior high or something, cos i feel like i'm kicking a puppy now. you really have no clue how the american justice system works do you?
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    i'm so very proud of you...glad you have time to post here all day instead of being out there helping murders get off.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    i'm so very proud of you...glad you have time to post here all day instead of being out there helping murders get off.

    i'm no licensed yet... 2 more years of school to go. then i intend to work in the private sector. if i ever go back to that area of law, it will be in prosecution.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    soulsinging wrote:
    trail? you mean trial? jesus, what grade are you in? i'll stop arguing with you if you're in junior high or something, cos i feel like i'm kicking a puppy now. you really have no clue how the american justice system works do you?


    yes little boy, i misspelllled a word....
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    soulsinging wrote:
    i'm no licensed yet... 2 more years of school to go. then i intend to work in the private sector. if i ever go back to that area of law, it will be in prosecution.

    that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?

    you didn't answer the o.j. thing....besides, i know, that's the system.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    810wmb wrote:
    that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?

    Just curious, how much accuracy would you be willing to give up in exchange for speedy executions? Would 1 unjustified execution out of 1000 be ok, 10,000, 30,000. I am just wondering what the limit would be since I pretty much think no matter what there will always be a chance that someone who doesn't deserve it might be executed, and the more you speed things up, the better chances there would be of that happening.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    i understand yr point, but life isn't always fair, mistakes happen everyday...

    do you think i would want somebody killed that's innocent?

    i would *guess* that there are more guilty people doing appeal after appeal than innocent ones.



    and back to cost - as long as we're willing to pay for it, it's fine...i think it stinks
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    soulsinging wrote:
    just so long as you know which one has more power round here ;)


    :D
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?

    you didn't answer the o.j. thing....besides, i know, that's the system.

    becos i wanted to see if you knew anything first. clearly you don't. there's a constitutional prohibition against someone being tried twice for the same crime. it is called double jeopardy. the various levels of courts were created by necessity. a system of local courts with no oversight could vastly abuse their power. thus there were appeals courts created to ensure that trial courts were not making mistakes or abusing their discretion. courts of last resort (eg. the supreme court) are meant to resolve any grey areas or confusion in written law by interpreting them and telling the lower courts how to apply it to difficult cases.

    the system is built on american ideals... namely distrust of consolidated power. the framers were much more afraid of the potential for government abuse, therefore, the system was created to ensure that does not happen. which is why criminals get appeals processes... to make sure they aren't tried and executed based on local prejudices (think salem witch trials or 'to kill a mocking bird'... assuming you can read it) rather than on actually breaking the law. the government can only bring charges once... to ensure that government officials can't harass citizens by constantly bringing them to trial despite being unable to prove anything (think joe mccarthy and communism).

    but im sure you knew all this. you've evinced such a clear understanding of the issues here.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    here is a good movie for you ;) Ashley Judd is amazing, and i'm not just talking about her looks :)

    http://mymovies.net/player/default.asp?filmid=127&url=/film/fid127/trailers/trid128/wm/bb.asx
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    genie wrote:
    here is a good movie for you ;) Ashley Judd is amazing, and i'm not just talking about her looks :)

    http://mymovies.net/player/default.asp?filmid=127&url=/film/fid127/trailers/trid128/wm/bb.asx


    is there any girl on girl action while she's in the stir?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    810wmb wrote:
    is there any girl on girl action while she's in the stir?

    nope, but this movie clearly explains what double jeopardy is ;)
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    soulsinging wrote:
    becos i wanted to see if you knew anything first. clearly you don't. there's a constitutional prohibition against someone being tried twice for the same crime. it is called double jeopardy. the various levels of courts were created by necessity. a system of local courts with no oversight could vastly abuse their power. thus there were appeals courts created to ensure that trial courts were not making mistakes or abusing their discretion. courts of last resort (eg. the supreme court) are meant to resolve any grey areas or confusion in written law by interpreting them and telling the lower courts how to apply it to difficult cases.

    the system is built on american ideals... namely distrust of consolidated power. the framers were much more afraid of the potential for government abuse, therefore, the system was created to ensure that does not happen. which is why criminals get appeals processes... to make sure they aren't tried and executed based on local prejudices (think salem witch trials or 'to kill a mocking bird'... assuming you can read it) rather than on actually breaking the law. the government can only bring charges once... to ensure that government officials can't harass citizens by constantly bringing them to trial despite being unable to prove anything (think joe mccarthy and communism).

    but im sure you knew all this. you've evinced such a clear understanding of the issues here.


    yep, i know...those Christian framers did a bang up job...
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Scubascott
    Scubascott Posts: 815
    Fucking hell. I'm lost for words. America is so completely fucked up. What a progressive, forward thinking country you have there. Its a good thing you're setting an example to those savages in Iran and China. You make sure that you put your criminals down humanely, just like useless stray dogs. Better come up with some new sick and twisted inventive method for disposing of those you want vengance on if the old lethal injections aren't doing the trick. . . fuck me.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    well, seeing how your country was founded by criminals, i wouldn't be saying shit!
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    maybe this has already been said, but how exactly does one Boycott lethal injection?

    i pretty much boycott all forms of execution of myself already. i do it every day.

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