taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.
How about the inmates that have been on death row and have been acquitted because of improvements in forensic sciences. It would suck to have put that bullet in their skull only to find out later that they indeed where innocent.
On the flip side is the guy who shoots up a house and gets nabbed right there getting appeal after appeal. Just kill the person. There ain't going to be a mistake when you are caught red handed.
taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.
Seriously, I would much rather pay taxes to pay for a corrections officer to watch a bunch of these guys sit in their cells, then have the taxes go to paying a bunch of highly trained, and expensive, judges and lawyers review cases a bunch of times over.
taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.
taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.
of course i know the difference...get to the bottom line, dude
maybe i should have written a four page post explaining all that stuff,THEN posted what i did to make sure you were happy
of course i know the difference...get to the bottom line, dude
maybe i should have written a four page post explaining all that stuff,THEN posted what i did to make sure you were happy
the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.
i agree to a point - if they somehow paid for their prison cell, food, etc, i would be all for this.
but it's a federal prison system..the gov't is involved, so forget it.
hell, if they are on death row and get sick, they give them medical help to get better, to kill them!?!
hey, let that abcessed tooth run it's course.
if the judge hands down the death penalty, they should be killed within 1 yr...i was gonna say 30 days...or just take them out back and hang them
Do you think that 30 days or 1 year is enough time to decide 100% without any doubt that not only the person convicted actually committed the crime they are being punished for, but that it is a crime worthy of capital punishment?
With respect to the medical care thing, I don't really have a problem with that. Look at it this way, if you have a guy sitting in solitary confinement with a sore tooth, all he is going to be thinking about is his sore tooth. If you fix his sore tooth, he has more time to think about his crimes, and how he is stuck in solitary and how fucked up his life is. To me that would be much more punishment than a sore tooth.
Of course a third option is the Wheel of Pain from Conan the Barbarian.
the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.
wow, i didn't know that. ok then, how about we destroy them mentally and then they will do themselves for us
the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.
you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course?
hmmm... you are arguing with someone who advocates taking them (I assume he/she decides who "they" are himself/herself), shooting them, hang them and burn them.
I think he may be after those wasteomoney defense lawyers next.
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
i suppose you have a lot of support for that contention? my memory isn't 100% but it WAS only a year ago that i took criminal law at one of the nation's top law schools... i doubt i'd have gotten that backwards already. of course, that's on top of every study i ever read on the death penalty, from high school on through this past summer when i worked for the justice system in one of the nation's largest cities.
but what do i know? clearly, you're the expert, as demonstrated by that well researched and unimpeachable response.
as far as the other, isn't that what the trail is for?
why can prisoners appeal, but we can't bring O.J. back to trial?
once he was found innocent, that was it
trail? you mean trial? jesus, what grade are you in? i'll stop arguing with you if you're in junior high or something, cos i feel like i'm kicking a puppy now. you really have no clue how the american justice system works do you?
i'm so very proud of you...glad you have time to post here all day instead of being out there helping murders get off.
i'm no licensed yet... 2 more years of school to go. then i intend to work in the private sector. if i ever go back to that area of law, it will be in prosecution.
trail? you mean trial? jesus, what grade are you in? i'll stop arguing with you if you're in junior high or something, cos i feel like i'm kicking a puppy now. you really have no clue how the american justice system works do you?
i'm no licensed yet... 2 more years of school to go. then i intend to work in the private sector. if i ever go back to that area of law, it will be in prosecution.
that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?
you didn't answer the o.j. thing....besides, i know, that's the system.
that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?
Just curious, how much accuracy would you be willing to give up in exchange for speedy executions? Would 1 unjustified execution out of 1000 be ok, 10,000, 30,000. I am just wondering what the limit would be since I pretty much think no matter what there will always be a chance that someone who doesn't deserve it might be executed, and the more you speed things up, the better chances there would be of that happening.
that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?
you didn't answer the o.j. thing....besides, i know, that's the system.
becos i wanted to see if you knew anything first. clearly you don't. there's a constitutional prohibition against someone being tried twice for the same crime. it is called double jeopardy. the various levels of courts were created by necessity. a system of local courts with no oversight could vastly abuse their power. thus there were appeals courts created to ensure that trial courts were not making mistakes or abusing their discretion. courts of last resort (eg. the supreme court) are meant to resolve any grey areas or confusion in written law by interpreting them and telling the lower courts how to apply it to difficult cases.
the system is built on american ideals... namely distrust of consolidated power. the framers were much more afraid of the potential for government abuse, therefore, the system was created to ensure that does not happen. which is why criminals get appeals processes... to make sure they aren't tried and executed based on local prejudices (think salem witch trials or 'to kill a mocking bird'... assuming you can read it) rather than on actually breaking the law. the government can only bring charges once... to ensure that government officials can't harass citizens by constantly bringing them to trial despite being unable to prove anything (think joe mccarthy and communism).
but im sure you knew all this. you've evinced such a clear understanding of the issues here.
becos i wanted to see if you knew anything first. clearly you don't. there's a constitutional prohibition against someone being tried twice for the same crime. it is called double jeopardy. the various levels of courts were created by necessity. a system of local courts with no oversight could vastly abuse their power. thus there were appeals courts created to ensure that trial courts were not making mistakes or abusing their discretion. courts of last resort (eg. the supreme court) are meant to resolve any grey areas or confusion in written law by interpreting them and telling the lower courts how to apply it to difficult cases.
the system is built on american ideals... namely distrust of consolidated power. the framers were much more afraid of the potential for government abuse, therefore, the system was created to ensure that does not happen. which is why criminals get appeals processes... to make sure they aren't tried and executed based on local prejudices (think salem witch trials or 'to kill a mocking bird'... assuming you can read it) rather than on actually breaking the law. the government can only bring charges once... to ensure that government officials can't harass citizens by constantly bringing them to trial despite being unable to prove anything (think joe mccarthy and communism).
but im sure you knew all this. you've evinced such a clear understanding of the issues here.
yep, i know...those Christian framers did a bang up job...
Fucking hell. I'm lost for words. America is so completely fucked up. What a progressive, forward thinking country you have there. Its a good thing you're setting an example to those savages in Iran and China. You make sure that you put your criminals down humanely, just like useless stray dogs. Better come up with some new sick and twisted inventive method for disposing of those you want vengance on if the old lethal injections aren't doing the trick. . . fuck me.
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taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.
On the flip side is the guy who shoots up a house and gets nabbed right there getting appeal after appeal. Just kill the person. There ain't going to be a mistake when you are caught red handed.
Seriously, I would much rather pay taxes to pay for a corrections officer to watch a bunch of these guys sit in their cells, then have the taxes go to paying a bunch of highly trained, and expensive, judges and lawyers review cases a bunch of times over.
Hurray for the land of lawyers and Christ!
of course i know the difference...get to the bottom line, dude
maybe i should have written a four page post explaining all that stuff,THEN posted what i did to make sure you were happy
the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.
just so long as you know which one has more power round here
Do you think that 30 days or 1 year is enough time to decide 100% without any doubt that not only the person convicted actually committed the crime they are being punished for, but that it is a crime worthy of capital punishment?
With respect to the medical care thing, I don't really have a problem with that. Look at it this way, if you have a guy sitting in solitary confinement with a sore tooth, all he is going to be thinking about is his sore tooth. If you fix his sore tooth, he has more time to think about his crimes, and how he is stuck in solitary and how fucked up his life is. To me that would be much more punishment than a sore tooth.
Of course a third option is the Wheel of Pain from Conan the Barbarian.
wow, i didn't know that. ok then, how about we destroy them mentally and then they will do themselves for us
yr wrong
yeah, I`was thinking about their victims...........who did not choose this
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
i'm all for that.
as far as the other, isn't that what the trail is for?
why can prisoners appeal, but we can't bring O.J. back to trial?
once he was found innocent, that was it
hmmm... you are arguing with someone who advocates taking them (I assume he/she decides who "they" are himself/herself), shooting them, hang them and burn them.
I think he may be after those wasteomoney defense lawyers next.
i suppose you have a lot of support for that contention? my memory isn't 100% but it WAS only a year ago that i took criminal law at one of the nation's top law schools... i doubt i'd have gotten that backwards already. of course, that's on top of every study i ever read on the death penalty, from high school on through this past summer when i worked for the justice system in one of the nation's largest cities.
but what do i know? clearly, you're the expert, as demonstrated by that well researched and unimpeachable response.
trail? you mean trial? jesus, what grade are you in? i'll stop arguing with you if you're in junior high or something, cos i feel like i'm kicking a puppy now. you really have no clue how the american justice system works do you?
i'm no licensed yet... 2 more years of school to go. then i intend to work in the private sector. if i ever go back to that area of law, it will be in prosecution.
yes little boy, i misspelllled a word....
that would be great...why don't you fight the system to get speedy executions so we don't tie up the system?
you didn't answer the o.j. thing....besides, i know, that's the system.
Just curious, how much accuracy would you be willing to give up in exchange for speedy executions? Would 1 unjustified execution out of 1000 be ok, 10,000, 30,000. I am just wondering what the limit would be since I pretty much think no matter what there will always be a chance that someone who doesn't deserve it might be executed, and the more you speed things up, the better chances there would be of that happening.
do you think i would want somebody killed that's innocent?
i would *guess* that there are more guilty people doing appeal after appeal than innocent ones.
and back to cost - as long as we're willing to pay for it, it's fine...i think it stinks
becos i wanted to see if you knew anything first. clearly you don't. there's a constitutional prohibition against someone being tried twice for the same crime. it is called double jeopardy. the various levels of courts were created by necessity. a system of local courts with no oversight could vastly abuse their power. thus there were appeals courts created to ensure that trial courts were not making mistakes or abusing their discretion. courts of last resort (eg. the supreme court) are meant to resolve any grey areas or confusion in written law by interpreting them and telling the lower courts how to apply it to difficult cases.
the system is built on american ideals... namely distrust of consolidated power. the framers were much more afraid of the potential for government abuse, therefore, the system was created to ensure that does not happen. which is why criminals get appeals processes... to make sure they aren't tried and executed based on local prejudices (think salem witch trials or 'to kill a mocking bird'... assuming you can read it) rather than on actually breaking the law. the government can only bring charges once... to ensure that government officials can't harass citizens by constantly bringing them to trial despite being unable to prove anything (think joe mccarthy and communism).
but im sure you knew all this. you've evinced such a clear understanding of the issues here.
http://mymovies.net/player/default.asp?filmid=127&url=/film/fid127/trailers/trid128/wm/bb.asx
is there any girl on girl action while she's in the stir?
nope, but this movie clearly explains what double jeopardy is
yep, i know...those Christian framers did a bang up job...
-C Addison
i pretty much boycott all forms of execution of myself already. i do it every day.