Fucking hell. I'm lost for words. America is so completely fucked up. What a progressive, forward thinking country you have there. Its a good thing you're setting an example to those savages in Iran and China. You make sure that you put your criminals down humanely, just like useless stray dogs. Better come up with some new sick and twisted inventive method for disposing of those you want vengance on if the old lethal injections aren't doing the trick. . . fuck me.
god, get over yourself. i'd choose death over life in prison by far.
Personally i think that the death penalty as it exists in the US is largely a waste of money and probably has only a small effect on deterring crime. However, life imprisonment has always sounded like the most cruel punishment you could get.
maybe this has already been said, but how exactly does one Boycott lethal injection?
i pretty much boycott all forms of execution of myself already. i do it every day.
I think the point of the original article is the fact that the lethal injection is performed by a doctor (or at least set up by a doctor). I think the goal is to get doctors to refuse to take part in it. Although I would be curious to hear from a doctor exactly how they could justify taking part in one to begin with.
Just today....headline on Houston Chronicle.... "Crime Lab mistakenly switches DNA samples, lab again under review".
You never know if the person is really guilty....so how can we as conscious humans be okay with putting a few innocent humans to death in order to seek our revenge on the rest. Chilling.
Thought of this the other day......I don't trust my government.....so why give them an avenue to put one of us to death......scary.
You make sure that you put your criminals down humanely, just like useless stray dogs. Better come up with some new sick and twisted inventive method for disposing of those you want vengance on if the old lethal injections aren't doing the trick. . . fuck me.
well whoopty-do maaan, so you are saying it's ok to put down stray dogs? but when it's criminal he/she has more right to live than a useless (for you) stray dog.......hmm........
Just today....headline on Houston Chronicle.... "Crime Lab mistakenly switches DNA samples, lab again under review".
You never know if the person is really guilty....so how can we as conscious humans be okay with putting a few innocent humans to death in order to seek our revenge on the rest. Chilling.
Thought of this the other day......I don't trust my government.....so why give them an avenue to put one of us to death......scary.
i do understand your point of view, of course i wouldn't want an innocent human being to be killed. thats why before putting them on death row the government has got to do some serious checks, and use a lie detector!
Well when you are in prison for life commit suicide, thats your choice.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
don't be so sure...till your put in a life or death situation...you don't know.....the drive to stay alive is very powerful.
death = quick, painless. when you're dead there is nothing to feel. there is just nothing at all.
life imprisonment = wake up every day for the rest of your life to be confronted by four walls by nasty inmates, and shitty food, and complete and utter boredom. Last but not least, everyday to be able to look at the gates but not to be allowed to cross them. To think about having a family, social life, seeing nature, exploring stuff - and not to be able to do all this.....
hmm... i don't know death seems better option to me
Just today....headline on Houston Chronicle.... "Crime Lab mistakenly switches DNA samples, lab again under review".
You never know if the person is really guilty....so how can we as conscious humans be okay with putting a few innocent humans to death in order to seek our revenge on the rest. Chilling.
Thought of this the other day......I don't trust my government.....so why give them an avenue to put one of us to death......scary.
i agree with that. and with the level of incompetence in the gov't today I'm sure too many mistakes are made. I do think the death penalty could be used in rare cases, but right now i think the system is largely broken.
i don't feel the least bit sorry when a murdering thug gets executed. no remorse or guilt at all. When they fried tim mcveigh it didnt bring any tears to my eyes. One less asshole on Earth. Does that make me a barbarian?
On the flip side is the guy who shoots up a house and gets nabbed right there getting appeal after appeal. Just kill the person. There ain't going to be a mistake when you are caught red handed.
nabbed by whom? The Police....how many crooked cops are there. Film...can be manipulated. Confessions...police regularly "pull" confessions from innocent people....if a government wanted they could easily create an open and shut case..........so why take this risk.....why chance it.....why give this end all of powers?
As far as 810mb or whatever they're screen name....convinced they're trolling or in junior high school....
i agree with that. and with the level of incompetence in the gov't today I'm sure too many mistakes are made. I do think the death penalty could be used in rare cases, but right now i think the system is largely broken.
i don't feel the least bit sorry when a murdering thug gets executed. no remorse or guilt at all. When they fried tim mcveigh it didnt bring any tears to my eyes. One less asshole on Earth. Does that make me a barbarian?
do you really know McViegh did it?? Not saying he didn't... the thug has court appointed lawyer.....you just never know....even in those "rare cases".
No your not a barbarian....its human nature to want revenge....but you can rise above it....when I was younger....I too wanted blood....take that sucker, pour honey on him and lay on fire ant mound, once he passed out...take him off, revive..and do it again.
.....but I evolved out of it....relized I'm different than the filth we have in society.....and realize you can't trust your government...which makes me shiver knowing they have the tools to quiet you.
Again wrong on so many levels. Right solely on one....our emotional need for revenge.
death = quick, painless. when you're dead there is nothing to feel. there is just nothing at all.
life imprisonment = wake up every day for the rest of your life to be confronted by four walls by nasty inmates, and shitty food, and complete and utter boredom. Last but not least, everyday to be able to look at the gates but not to be allowed to cross them. To think about having a family, social life, seeing nature, exploring stuff - and not to be able to do all this.....
hmm... i don't know death seems better option to me
till your actually put in that position you don't know. I'd bet the farm you would take prison.
i do understand your point of view, of course i wouldn't want an innocent human being to be killed. thats why before putting them on death row the government has got to do some serious checks, and use a lie detector!
but you never know.....and if you think that just one innocent person might slip through..is it worth it.
several hundred Americans on death row have been proven innocent and released...happens all the time........many by lawyers working pro bono, knowing how bad the system is........if they didn't volunteer these folks would be dead. I've tried to put myself in the position of an innocent man walking to the gallows....wow...how fked up that must be.
death = quick, painless. when you're dead there is nothing to feel. there is just nothing at all.
life imprisonment = wake up every day for the rest of your life to be confronted by four walls by nasty inmates, and shitty food, and complete and utter boredom. Last but not least, everyday to be able to look at the gates but not to be allowed to cross them. To think about having a family, social life, seeing nature, exploring stuff - and not to be able to do all this.....
hmm... i don't know death seems better option to me
Which is why life in prison makes a much better punishment I think. Although one thing I would change about your scenario is if you are serving a life sentence on a capital charge, you don’t even get to interact with the other inmates. Just alone by your self with your brain.
Plus at least if there was an error it can still be remedied by letting the person go or reducing his sentence. You can’t really fix things if you executed the wrong man.
The other thing to remember is when you talk about people being unjustly executed, I am not just talking about innocent people being convicted of murder, there are probably a lot of people on top of that who killed someone but got convicted of first degree murder when it might have been 2nd degree, manslaughter or self defense.
but you never know.....and if you think that just one innocent person might slip through..is it worth it.
several hundred Americans on death row have been proven innocent and released...happens all the time........many by lawyers working pro bono, knowing how bad the system is........if they didn't volunteer these folks would be dead. I've tried to put myself in the position of an innocent man walking to the gallows....wow...how fked up that must be.
you're a nice person, and i'm certainly not as nice as you are.
I liked death sentence,because i thought it was cheaper to just get rid of the person, and make room in prison for another criminal.
But after reading what Soulsinging said, how court trials cost more than life imprisonment, i don't even know what to think.
Which is why life in prison makes a much better punishment I think. Although one thing I would change about your scenario is if you are serving a life sentence on a capital charge, you don’t even get to interact with the other inmates. Just alone by your self with your brain.
Plus at least if there was an error it can still be remedied by letting the person go or reducing his sentence. You can’t really fix things if you executed the wrong man.
The other thing to remember is when you talk about people being unjustly executed, I am not just talking about innocent people being convicted of murder, there are probably a lot of people on top of that who killed someone but got convicted of first degree murder when it might have been 2nd degree, manslaughter or self defense.
you've got good points here, i can't disagree with you
nabbed by whom? The Police....how many crooked cops are there. Film...can be manipulated. Confessions...police regularly "pull" confessions from innocent people....if a government wanted they could easily create an open and shut case..........so why take this risk.....why chance it.....why give this end all of powers?
As far as 810mb or whatever they're screen name....convinced they're trolling or in junior high school....
We had an episode here in Canada about a year or so ago where the RCMP got called to a drug lair in the middle of butt f'k park. So they show up and the guy who was there, had a hard on for cops. He blows a couple of them (four) away, you know because of their job. So aside from the paranoid in you that says that people can be crooked. When you have a guy/girl and you know as in this case as he was the only person there, who did it. Put the goof to death. Easy as pie. Instead the asshat took his own life. Unfortunately we don't have the death penalty up here anymore. So if he didn't x himself, he would be able to free everything on my tax dollar. My tax dollar says kill him.
Hear that Bernardo. YOU SHOULD BE DEAD!!!! YOUR FUCKING WIFE TOO!!!
yep, i know...those Christian framers did a bang up job...
way to dodge all the points and expose yourself as a no-substance shit-talker. you can't back up a single thing you've said in here can you? i've answered your questions about oj, how about you try to respond to mine.
i'm just a very nice man who's lived a little life...used to lean so far to the left it was sad.
get a few yrs under yr belt jr., then tell me how you feel
get a few iq points added to that mind of yours and maybe some of your words will be worth more than evidence that you might need an assisted living environment.
I shouldn't get into this though. Everyone likes their self-serving paradigms.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I shouldn't get into this though. Everyone likes their self-serving paradigms.
wow you're in a philosophical mood today.
i'm still waiting for someone to clear up the issue of why exactly this is a "boycott". who are what should i be boycotting? heheh i'm just in a good mood and feel like being snarky today.
i'm still waiting for someone to clear up the issue of why exactly this is a "boycott". who are what should i be boycotting? heheh i'm just in a good mood and feel like being snarky today.
You gotta stop making those trips to Dr. Kavorkian. Maybe that's what they mean by boycott.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I shouldn't get into this though. Everyone likes their self-serving paradigms.
there's only one reason for every murder ever committed? i had no idea! once we all figure it out murder won't ever happen again? shit, i had no idea it was so easy.
there's only one reason for every murder ever committed? i had no idea! once we all figure it out murder won't ever happen again? shit, i had no idea it was so easy.
No, there are at least 3 reasons. Compulsory, opportunity and organized. From the perspective of criminology. It becomes more complex at the level of brains. But this is what we need to know.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
way to dodge all the points and expose yourself as a no-substance shit-talker. you can't back up a single thing you've said in here can you? i've answered your questions about oj, how about you try to respond to mine.
see my penis?
there's yr response...
you didn't need to answer one thing about o.j. i already posted before you even responded "that's the way the system works" i tried to get you to save yr blowhard breath.
you think you know every fuckin' thing?
what's this bug in yr ass?
as far as the personal attacks, go right ahead...i was told that wasn't allowed..so i'm playing by the rules...
yr looking like an candidate for anger management...pretty funny coming for a peace loving fellow like yrself
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god, get over yourself. i'd choose death over life in prison by far.
Personally i think that the death penalty as it exists in the US is largely a waste of money and probably has only a small effect on deterring crime. However, life imprisonment has always sounded like the most cruel punishment you could get.
I think the point of the original article is the fact that the lethal injection is performed by a doctor (or at least set up by a doctor). I think the goal is to get doctors to refuse to take part in it. Although I would be curious to hear from a doctor exactly how they could justify taking part in one to begin with.
Just today....headline on Houston Chronicle.... "Crime Lab mistakenly switches DNA samples, lab again under review".
You never know if the person is really guilty....so how can we as conscious humans be okay with putting a few innocent humans to death in order to seek our revenge on the rest. Chilling.
Thought of this the other day......I don't trust my government.....so why give them an avenue to put one of us to death......scary.
well whoopty-do maaan, so you are saying it's ok to put down stray dogs? but when it's criminal he/she has more right to live than a useless (for you) stray dog.......hmm........
don't be so sure...till your put in a life or death situation...you don't know.....the drive to stay alive is very powerful.
i do understand your point of view, of course i wouldn't want an innocent human being to be killed. thats why before putting them on death row the government has got to do some serious checks, and use a lie detector!
Well when you are in prison for life commit suicide, thats your choice.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
death = quick, painless. when you're dead there is nothing to feel. there is just nothing at all.
life imprisonment = wake up every day for the rest of your life to be confronted by four walls by nasty inmates, and shitty food, and complete and utter boredom. Last but not least, everyday to be able to look at the gates but not to be allowed to cross them. To think about having a family, social life, seeing nature, exploring stuff - and not to be able to do all this.....
hmm... i don't know death seems better option to me
i agree with that. and with the level of incompetence in the gov't today I'm sure too many mistakes are made. I do think the death penalty could be used in rare cases, but right now i think the system is largely broken.
i don't feel the least bit sorry when a murdering thug gets executed. no remorse or guilt at all. When they fried tim mcveigh it didnt bring any tears to my eyes. One less asshole on Earth. Does that make me a barbarian?
As far as 810mb or whatever they're screen name....convinced they're trolling or in junior high school....
do you really know McViegh did it?? Not saying he didn't... the thug has court appointed lawyer.....you just never know....even in those "rare cases".
No your not a barbarian....its human nature to want revenge....but you can rise above it....when I was younger....I too wanted blood....take that sucker, pour honey on him and lay on fire ant mound, once he passed out...take him off, revive..and do it again.
.....but I evolved out of it....relized I'm different than the filth we have in society.....and realize you can't trust your government...which makes me shiver knowing they have the tools to quiet you.
Again wrong on so many levels. Right solely on one....our emotional need for revenge.
wrongo chief
i'm just a very nice man who's lived a little life...used to lean so far to the left it was sad.
get a few yrs under yr belt jr., then tell me how you feel
farm? did you mean to put that word there?
i've been to school and this was enough for me to know that prison will suck twice as much for me
btw, my other word for school is prison
several hundred Americans on death row have been proven innocent and released...happens all the time........many by lawyers working pro bono, knowing how bad the system is........if they didn't volunteer these folks would be dead. I've tried to put myself in the position of an innocent man walking to the gallows....wow...how fked up that must be.
i'm intrigued how old are you? because you sound young
Which is why life in prison makes a much better punishment I think. Although one thing I would change about your scenario is if you are serving a life sentence on a capital charge, you don’t even get to interact with the other inmates. Just alone by your self with your brain.
Plus at least if there was an error it can still be remedied by letting the person go or reducing his sentence. You can’t really fix things if you executed the wrong man.
The other thing to remember is when you talk about people being unjustly executed, I am not just talking about innocent people being convicted of murder, there are probably a lot of people on top of that who killed someone but got convicted of first degree murder when it might have been 2nd degree, manslaughter or self defense.
you're a nice person, and i'm certainly not as nice as you are.
I liked death sentence,because i thought it was cheaper to just get rid of the person, and make room in prison for another criminal.
But after reading what Soulsinging said, how court trials cost more than life imprisonment, i don't even know what to think.
you've got good points here, i can't disagree with you
We had an episode here in Canada about a year or so ago where the RCMP got called to a drug lair in the middle of butt f'k park. So they show up and the guy who was there, had a hard on for cops. He blows a couple of them (four) away, you know because of their job. So aside from the paranoid in you that says that people can be crooked. When you have a guy/girl and you know as in this case as he was the only person there, who did it. Put the goof to death. Easy as pie. Instead the asshat took his own life. Unfortunately we don't have the death penalty up here anymore. So if he didn't x himself, he would be able to free everything on my tax dollar. My tax dollar says kill him.
Hear that Bernardo. YOU SHOULD BE DEAD!!!! YOUR FUCKING WIFE TOO!!!
way to dodge all the points and expose yourself as a no-substance shit-talker. you can't back up a single thing you've said in here can you? i've answered your questions about oj, how about you try to respond to mine.
Physicians fee. $100 per hour
Paperwork filing charges $250
doesn't seem like it even closely resembles the cost of life imprisionment.
get a few iq points added to that mind of yours and maybe some of your words will be worth more than evidence that you might need an assisted living environment.
Figure that out and this won't even be an issue.
I shouldn't get into this though. Everyone likes their self-serving paradigms.
wow you're in a philosophical mood today.
i'm still waiting for someone to clear up the issue of why exactly this is a "boycott". who are what should i be boycotting? heheh i'm just in a good mood and feel like being snarky today.
You gotta stop making those trips to Dr. Kavorkian. Maybe that's what they mean by boycott.
there's only one reason for every murder ever committed? i had no idea! once we all figure it out murder won't ever happen again? shit, i had no idea it was so easy.
No, there are at least 3 reasons. Compulsory, opportunity and organized. From the perspective of criminology. It becomes more complex at the level of brains. But this is what we need to know.
see my penis?
there's yr response...
you didn't need to answer one thing about o.j. i already posted before you even responded "that's the way the system works" i tried to get you to save yr blowhard breath.
you think you know every fuckin' thing?
what's this bug in yr ass?
as far as the personal attacks, go right ahead...i was told that wasn't allowed..so i'm playing by the rules...
yr looking like an candidate for anger management...pretty funny coming for a peace loving fellow like yrself