Call for lethal injection boycott

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  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    know1 wrote:
    I say we boycott all forms of the death penalty.
    I agree. The only reason they switched to injections is to make it easy on society, not the executed.
    A shot to the back of the head would kill them much quicker - its just doesnt look so nice.
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Personally I am against the death penalty for 2 reasons. First off when it comes to convicting someone of a crime you can never be 100% sure 100% of the time. Since there could be even an infinitesimally small chance of a verdict being a mistake, you shouldn’t be using a type of punishment where there is no going back.

    Secondly how is instant death less of a punishment than spending the rest of your life in prison and then death? I mean if there is no afterlife (especially if there is no afterlife type of punishment) then it really isn’t. I think if someone is convicted of 1st degree murder, they should be locked in a small cell for the rest of their life (with little or no human contact and little or no time outside of your cell) so that they can be alone with their thoughts (with no chance of parole). That to me would be a much worse punishment. Also none of this 25 to life crap with time off for good behavior if you commit premeditated murder, getting out of prison should not be an option.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Did your dad not hug you as a child or tell you he loves you? That would explain your reason for posting things to just draw attention to yourself.


    i'm starved for attention...daddy was mean...i turned 21 in prison doing life without parole...

    sheesh

    1970rr has it..it ain't so pretty.

    so they kill people nice like....they think it makes us feel better...who knows what the cost of injecting someone is? the way medical costs are, you can bet a bullet is way cheaper.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    the only problem with jail time, is the cost to the taxpayer.

    food, shelter, medical, lawyer fees, etc.

    i say hang them, then shoot them, then set them on fire.

    execution is more expensive. the cost in legal appeals alone is twice as much as jailing an inmate for a lifetime.

    also, anyone else crack up that from the main page this thread subject reads "call for lethal injection." all i could think was "hell yeah, i've got a few i'd like to volunteer!"
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    i can get a box of 9mm ammo from war-mart for $15

    it's cheaper to whack them

    unfortunately, we have something called a constitution that prevents executions from operating this way. so it's a pretty expensive practice. that's the chief reason i oppose the death penalty... morally i don't really care. but it's cheaper to give them life in prison and they're still not a threat to anyone.
  • madjack
    madjack Posts: 213
    I can kill 'cause in God I trust,






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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    i'm starved for attention...daddy was mean...i turned 21 in prison doing life without parole...

    sheesh

    1970rr has it..it ain't so pretty.

    so they kill people nice like....they think it makes us feel better...who knows what the cost of injecting someone is? the way medical costs are, you can bet a bullet is way cheaper.

    the cost of the actual execution makes no difference. it is the extensive review and appeal process that costs so much money.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Personally I am against the death penalty for 2 reasons. First off when it comes to convicting someone of a crime you can never be 100% sure 100% of the time. Since there could be even an infinitesimally small chance of a verdict being a mistake, you shouldn’t be using a type of punishment where there is no going back.

    Secondly how is instant death less of a punishment than spending the rest of your life in prison and then death? I mean if there is no afterlife (especially if there is no afterlife type of punishment) then it really isn’t. I think if someone is convicted of 1st degree murder, they should be locked in a small cell for the rest of their life (with little or no human contact and little or no time outside of your cell) so that they can be alone with their thoughts (with no chance of parole). That to me would be a much worse punishment. Also none of this 25 to life crap with time off for good behavior if you commit premeditated murder, getting out of prison should not be an option.

    like ron white said about if we capture bin laden:

    "it's not that im opposed to the death penalty, it's that osama bin laden is prepared to die. what he's not prepared to do is lick jelly out of thunderdick's butt crack."
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Secondly how is instant death less of a punishment than spending the rest of your life in prison and then death? I mean if there is no afterlife (especially if there is no afterlife type of punishment) then it really isn’t. I think if someone is convicted of 1st degree murder, they should be locked in a small cell for the rest of their life (with little or no human contact and little or no time outside of your cell) so that they can be alone with their thoughts (with no chance of parole). That to me would be a much worse punishment. Also none of this 25 to life crap with time off for good behavior if you commit premeditated murder, getting out of prison should not be an option.

    i agree to a point - if they somehow paid for their prison cell, food, etc, i would be all for this.

    but it's a federal prison system..the gov't is involved, so forget it.

    hell, if they are on death row and get sick, they give them medical help to get better, to kill them!?!

    hey, let that abcessed tooth run it's course.


    if the judge hands down the death penalty, they should be killed within 1 yr...i was gonna say 30 days...or just take them out back and hang them
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    soulsinging wrote:
    the cost of the actual execution makes no difference. it is the extensive review and appeal process that costs so much money.

    and who pays for that?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    and who pays for that?

    taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    mammasan wrote:
    How about the inmates that have been on death row and have been acquitted because of improvements in forensic sciences. It would suck to have put that bullet in their skull only to find out later that they indeed where innocent.


    On the flip side is the guy who shoots up a house and gets nabbed right there getting appeal after appeal. Just kill the person. There ain't going to be a mistake when you are caught red handed.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    soulsinging wrote:
    taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.

    Seriously, I would much rather pay taxes to pay for a corrections officer to watch a bunch of these guys sit in their cells, then have the taxes go to paying a bunch of highly trained, and expensive, judges and lawyers review cases a bunch of times over.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    soulsinging wrote:
    taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.


    Hurray for the land of lawyers and Christ!
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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    soulsinging wrote:
    taxpayers. the appeals process is a huge drain on the judiciary. you cannt just take someone from trial and execute them. have you ever taken a basic civics course? do you even know the difference between trial, sentencing, appeal, error, and court of last resort? it takes a very long time and costs a fortune for a case to work its way through the judicial system. death sentence appeals especially. and they cost a fortune. lock them up and let them sit there.


    of course i know the difference...get to the bottom line, dude

    maybe i should have written a four page post explaining all that stuff,THEN posted what i did to make sure you were happy
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    810wmb wrote:
    of course i know the difference...get to the bottom line, dude

    maybe i should have written a four page post explaining all that stuff,THEN posted what i did to make sure you were happy

    the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    even flow? wrote:
    Hurray for the land of lawyers and Christ!

    just so long as you know which one has more power round here ;)
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    810wmb wrote:
    i agree to a point - if they somehow paid for their prison cell, food, etc, i would be all for this.

    but it's a federal prison system..the gov't is involved, so forget it.

    hell, if they are on death row and get sick, they give them medical help to get better, to kill them!?!

    hey, let that abcessed tooth run it's course.


    if the judge hands down the death penalty, they should be killed within 1 yr...i was gonna say 30 days...or just take them out back and hang them

    Do you think that 30 days or 1 year is enough time to decide 100% without any doubt that not only the person convicted actually committed the crime they are being punished for, but that it is a crime worthy of capital punishment?

    With respect to the medical care thing, I don't really have a problem with that. Look at it this way, if you have a guy sitting in solitary confinement with a sore tooth, all he is going to be thinking about is his sore tooth. If you fix his sore tooth, he has more time to think about his crimes, and how he is stuck in solitary and how fucked up his life is. To me that would be much more punishment than a sore tooth.

    Of course a third option is the Wheel of Pain from Conan the Barbarian.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    soulsinging wrote:
    the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.

    wow, i didn't know that. ok then, how about we destroy them mentally and then they will do themselves for us :D
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    soulsinging wrote:
    the bottom line is execution's expensive, more expensive than life in prison. so your complaint about the cost of housing an inmate of life has no substance in comparison to execution.


    yr wrong
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat

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