Hizzbollah leads rebuilding.

Commy
Commy Posts: 4,984
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
They have kept Israel out of Lebanon, now have the respect of the Lebanese people and government, as well as much of the arab and non-arab world.

http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/sf/nyt8_16_06.htm
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    They have kept Israel out of Lebanon, now have the respect of the Lebanese people and government, as well as much of the arab and non-arab world.

    http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/sf/nyt8_16_06.htm

    Since when do you have an interest in foreign developments?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Since when do you have an interest in foreign developments?


    ...............
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    Of course they're rebuilding. They ran out of buildings to hide behind.
    reigning champion

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    sponger wrote:
    Of course they're rebuilding. They ran out of buildings to hide behind.


    You mean that Israel destroyed with US supplied DU shells, phosphorous bombs, and cluster bombs which were used in populated areas...
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Since when do you have an interest in foreign developments?

    Its relevant. This a foreign development that can be tied to US foreign policy, since the US provides Israel with $2 billion in military aid every year, msome of which has just been used to destroy entire towns in southern Lebanon.
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    Uh, pretty sure that $2 billion is for Egypt, Israel is closer to 3.

    And yeah! Look at 'em rebuilding! Let's see how far they get with that before they get distracted with more important things ... pure propaganda for now.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    acutejam wrote:
    Uh, pretty sure that $2 billion is for Egypt, Israel is closer to 3.

    And yeah! Look at 'em rebuilding! Let's see how far they get with that before they get distracted with more important things ... pure propaganda for now.


    They actually get $5 billion, but 2 is strictly military...which is insane no matter how you look at it. We got levees breaking at home, hungry mouths to feed, 50 million without health insurance...and we're giving terror states billions of US tax dollars.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    Its relevant. This a foreign development that can be tied to US foreign policy, since the US provides Israel with $2 billion in military aid every year, msome of which has just been used to destroy entire towns in southern Lebanon.



    So you are obviously concerned with holding citizens and leaders of this nation responsible for their votes. If Lebanon votes in the Hezbos as the ruling party, a party that advocates the destruction of Israel, should they or should they not be held accountable? We deserved 9/11 because of our policies, right? Does Lebanon deserve whatever is on the horizon for their decisions?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    acutejam wrote:
    And yeah! Look at 'em rebuilding! Let's see how far they get with that before they get distracted with more important things ... pure propaganda for now.
    propaganda your mom. They have a sound reputation with the Lebanese people of doing great things for the community, like rebuilding everytime the terrorists to the south attack them.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Purple Hawk wrote:

    So you are obviously concerned with holding citizens and leaders of this nation responsible for their votes. If Lebanon votes in the Hezbos as the ruling party, a party that advocates the destruction of Israel, should they or should they not be held accountable? We deserved 9/11 because of our policies, right? Does Lebanon deserve whatever is on the horizon for their decisions?



    I haven't seen Hizbollah cross the border in a military capacity. Israel on the other hand...

    I'm sure at some point in the past someone in an official Israel position called on the destruction of all arabs, and that actually holds more credence, given the history of the conflict.

    And I never implied we deserved 9/11...didn't surprise me at all, but that's not to say it [edit]wasn't a tragic event..
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    don't gimme no wrote:
    propaganda your mom. They have a sound reputation with the Lebanese people of doing great things for the community, like rebuilding everytime the terrorists to the south attack them.

    Wait wait, few edits needed there:

    They have a sound reputation with Iran of doing great things for Iran, like rebuilding their arm caches everytime they terrorize the south.

    Ah, much better!
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    acutejam wrote:
    Wait wait, few edits needed there:

    They have a sound reputation with Iran of doing great things for Iran, like rebuilding their arm caches everytime they terrorize the south.

    Ah, much better!


    It's not easy to fight US agression.....Hizbollah guerillas did, though, came out on top, in more ways than one.

    You realize Israel is just a US military base in the region I hope....
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    Just one.


    I haven't seen Hizbollah cross the border in a military capacity. Israel on the other hand...

    I'm sure at some point in the past someone in an official Israel position called on the destruction of all arabs, and that actually holds more credence, given the history of the conflict.

    Well find an exact quote (if from Reuters, AP, the NYT, or CBS, double check the sources!) and then get back to me. Until then, there's nothing to talk about.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Commy wrote:
    It's not easy to fight US agression.....Hizbollah guerillas did, though, came out on top, in more ways than one.

    You realize Israel is just a US military base in the region I hope....
    Great post, but part of the problem is that they do realize that. They just see it as a good thing.
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    Commy wrote:
    You realize Israel is just a US military base in the region I hope....

    Oooh, well gee no. So of course I googled that, closest US base is probably Turkey, then Kuwait?
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    acutejam wrote:
    Oooh, well gee no. So of course I googled that, closest US base is probably Turkey, then Kuwait?


    The state of Israel itself is a US miltary base, according a man the New York Times calls, "arguably the most important intellectual alive." Referring to Noam Chomsky, a professor at MIT.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    The state of Israel itself is a US miltary base, according a man the New York Times calls, "arguably the most important intellectual alive." Referring to Noam Chomsky, a professor at MIT.

    Well, if the New York Times reports it, it MUST be true! Intellectuals are supposed to form hypotheses, and test them. Chomsky spouts his opinion and the disaffected, self-loathing few follow him. Very insightful.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Well, if the New York Times reports it, it MUST be true! Intellectuals are supposed to form hypotheses, and test them. Chomsky spouts his opinion and the disaffected, self-loathing few follow him. Very insightful.

    You obviously haven't read much Chomsky. Or weren't able to comprehend his writing, one of the 2.
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    Commy wrote:
    They actually get $5 billion, but 2 is strictly military...which is insane no matter how you look at it. We got levees breaking at home, hungry mouths to feed, 50 million without health insurance...and we're giving terror states billions of US tax dollars.

    Israel is not a terror state and 2 billion is not that much in the scheme of government, especially since it is going to an embattled democracy in the middle of a sea of anti-western hate spawned by failed governments and fanatic clerics.
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Great post, but part of the problem is that they do realize that. They just see it as a good thing.

    Yeah, your wrong once again, but that's no surprise. Israel gets support from the US now, but they didn't used to and they still had the best military in the region, not because the US built them up to fight America's war, but because Israel needed it cause its neighbors wouldn't stop trying to kill everyone living there. If Israel was actually as aggressive as you seem to think she is why hasn't she conquered the ME already? She easily could have done it if she wanted to. At the very least a few neighboring countries. Instead she has given back land she conquered in defensive wars in exchange for peace. Do you guys even know any history at all?

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