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69charger wrote:Has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with the fact that there are some on this board that would take away that right. So I chose to exercise that right as a way to stick it to 'the man'. 'The man' in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards who think guns are evil. That's my motivation.
There's a HUGE difference between thinking guns are evil and wanting to do away with the 2nd Amendment.0 -
I have not seen too many people posting who want to take away that right. I've seen people posting saying that it's insane to kill people over possessions but they do understand your right to want to protect your family in the event of real danger. I've seen people say that we have a real problem here compared to the rest of the world with how many fatalaties there as a result of gunshot wounds. Trying to get you to actually admit that last point though is like trying to get blood out of a stone.69charger wrote:Has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with the fact that there are some on this board that would take away that right. So I chose to exercise that right as a way to stick it to 'the man'. 'The man' in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards who think guns are evil. That's my motivation.0 -
Nope. He doesn't answer questions if the choices are either saying something that harms his argument or lying. Noble in a way, I suppose. Irritating though.scb wrote:Did he ever answer your question? If he did, I must have missed it..."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
....in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards
pink is a very nice color, wouldn't you agree, 69????all insanity:
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
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Jeremy1012 wrote:Nope. He doesn't answer questions if the choices are either saying something that harms his argument or lying. Noble in a way, I suppose. Irritating though.
Why would I answer a question that is hypothetical and doesn't even relate to the topic?
You can aim a gun. You have complete control over who or what you hit. A nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately. Apples vs. Oranges and a comparison of the two as if they are equal is retarded. That's why I didn't answer your question, not because I have anything to hide, it's because it was a retarded question to begin with.
Would I support an individual right to own a nuclear weapon? Never.
Are you and scb happy now?0 -
scb wrote:This wins the funniest post of the day award. Thanks so much - I needed a good laugh!
If you think that's funny then you have no business ever handling a firearm.
"4 Rules" as taught at Gunsite Academy http://www.gunsite.com/
1. All guns are always loaded! Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy!
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.
Follow these rules and you will always hit your intended target.0 -
Christ, I didn't realise hypothetical questions were irrelevant, especially ones that deal with humans and weapons in a thread about humans and weapons. Silly me :rolleyes: I should have known the only things that can be discussed here are things that you approve of and advocate. God forbid anyone use this website as a discussion board rather than a "69charger has a list of things he will talk about, do not digress or deviate from his chosen topics one iota or you will be ignored".69charger wrote:Why would I answer a question that is hypothetical and doesn't even relate to the topic?
You can aim a gun. You have complete control over who or what you hit. A nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately. Apples vs. Oranges and a comparison of the two as if they are equal is retarded. That's why I didn't answer your question, not because I have anything to hide, it's because it was a retarded question to begin with.
Would I support an individual right to own a nuclear weapon? Never.
Are you and scb happy now?
Also, if you think every American follows those rules you've got there about guns then you need to educate yourself. Not every person who exercises the second amendment is some Timothy McVeigh military nut with training. Some are just jackasses who can buy guns online out of spite."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
Jeremy1012 wrote:Christ, I didn't realise hypothetical questions were irrelevant, especially ones that deal with humans and weapons in a thread about humans and weapons. Silly me :rolleyes: I should have known the only things that can be discussed here are things that you approve of and advocate. God forbid anyone use this website as a discussion board rather than a "69charger has a list of things he will talk about, do not digress or deviate from his chosen topics one iota or you will be ignored".
You finally figured out the true purpose of this board! You are correct. It is my own personal playground.Also, if you think every American follows those rules you've got there about guns then you need to educate yourself. Not every person who exercises the second amendment is some Timothy McVeigh military nut with training.
Maybe they should be...
Buying a gun online is no different than buying one in a gun store. What's your point?Some are just jackasses who can buy guns online out of spite.0 -
then today i shall color with dark pink...69charger wrote:Dark pink is cool. Light pink is nauseating.
do you think it's oki to teach children to play with guns?
i ask this because yesterday, a man and his son were in the store where i work. the boy wanted to run his dad's lottery ticket through the machine. i thought to myself, wow...these children are already being taught to accept that gambling itself is a way to nostalgia...
i bet you and other alpha figures in your life, hold similar images, only with hunting for food, and life sustinence (sp???)...
those who are against gun control, probably have some $ invested somewhere; they are not pinko's they are people who don't look beyond initial needs, perhaps even from suburbia where the idea of hunting and protecting yourself from harm's way is only but a legend.
keep to your system..you have always been kind....so i trust in your choices for yourself.all insanity:
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light0 -
69charger wrote:If you think that's funny then you have no business ever handling a firearm.
"4 Rules" as taught at Gunsite Academy http://www.gunsite.com/
1. All guns are always loaded! Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy!
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.
Follow these rules and you will always hit your intended target.
That's bullshit and you know it. If you don't, then YOU have no business ever handling a firearm.0 -
scb wrote:That's bullshit and you know it. If you don't, then YOU have no business ever handling a firearm.
You follow those rules and you will 99.99999999999999% of the time hit your intended target. WTF is so hard to understand about that? You act as if guns just shoot willy nilly all over the place.0 -
melodious wrote:then today i shall color with dark pink...
do you think it's oki to teach children to play with guns?
"Play" with guns? Not a big fan of letting childern shoot each other even with nerf guns. They are allowed to shoot at targets, but not at other people. Clearly water guns are fun and safe and my children definitely know the difference. Our kids know what 'real' guns are and have an extremely healthy attitude towards them. They are not curious about them and they ask to go to the range if they feel like going shooting. I think it's dangerous NOT to teach kids about firearms especially if you have a firearm at home.i ask this because yesterday, a man and his son were in the store where i work. the boy wanted to run his dad's lottery ticket through the machine. i thought to myself, wow...these children are already being taught to accept that gambling itself is a way to nostalgia...
i bet you and other alpha figures in your life, hold similar images, only with hunting for food, and life sustinence (sp???)...
My Dad took me hunting earlier in life and I had mixed feelings about it. I had some horrible experiences watching animals die and I wasn't sure if hunting was a good thing. Later in life I rediscovered hunting and saw it as essential to healthy living and maintaing a healthy environment. I saw it as part of the natural order of things. I see most of our society as out of touch and unable to fend for themselves and I refuse to be counted as one of those people.those who are against gun control, probably have some $ invested somewhere; they are not pinko's they are people who don't look beyond initial needs, perhaps even from suburbia where the idea of hunting and protecting yourself from harm's way is only but a legend.
Out of touch with actually living is how I see them. Sometimes I feel as if I should have been born 200 years ago. Things made sense and there was more of a natural order to things.keep to your system..you have always been kind....so i trust in your choices for yourself.
Ditto, you are sweet and always sincere.
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69charger wrote:You follow those rules and you will 99.99999999999999% of the time hit your intended target. WTF is so hard to understand about that? You act as if guns just shoot willy nilly all over the place.
First of all, guns DO shoot willy nilly all over the place - because that's how they are used in reality. I believe this conversation is about reality, not just your hypothetical ideal world.
You said you don't want to speak in hypotheticals and then made an extreme, absolute statement as if it was reality. I'm just saying it's not.
And you know this, which is why you keep qualifiying your original statement. It has gone from "You have complete control over who or what you hit" to "You have complete control over who or what you hit, if you follow these rules" to "Most of the time you have complete control over who or what you hit if you follow these rules".
Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.0 -
scb wrote:First of all, guns DO shoot willy nilly all over the place - because that's how they are used in reality. I believe this conversation is about reality, not just your hypothetical ideal world.
You said you don't want to speak in hypotheticals and then made an extreme, absolute statement as if it was reality. I'm just saying it's not.
Look jackass, there are 200 million firearms in the US. If what you are proposing to be true was actually the way things are, then we should all be dead several times over!!!And you know this, which is why you keep qualifiying your original statement. It has gone from "You have complete control over who or what you hit" to "You have complete control over who or what you hit, if you follow these rules" to "Most of the time you have complete control over who or what you hit if you follow these rules".
Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.
Nothing is impossible it's just that some things are extremely improbable. Just like your view of a person's inability to effectively control a firearm (which can be statistically proven false).0 -
23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the United States during 2000.
mm...accidental...0 -
scb wrote:Even then I think you overestimate your own powers and those of others.
In my lifetime I have probably shot close to 40,000 rounds of ammunition through all sorts of different guns in all different types of situations. Never have I had a 'close call' or damaged anything that I didn't intend to damage (I did forget to put my earplugs in when shooting a rifle in 7mm STW and I will NEVER do that again!
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I think you greatly overestimate the power of guns and I think you are scared of them to a large degree.
If others were as irresponsible as you claim, then you'd expect firearm homicides to be more than 0.0085% of the 200,000,000 firearms in the US, right?0 -
My point is that the worrying ease with which a firearm can be bought by any clown off the street is one of the reasons why people get shot. It's a fairly logical link. Not everyone who buys one knows what they're doing. Not everyone who buys one has any business owning one. Anyone can have a gun. I know for a fact that 3/4 of the people I know wouldn't have a clue what to do with a gun but if they were American they could walk into a shop and buy an assault rifle. The fact that this doesn't worry you, with your apparent expertise, is shocking to me.69charger wrote:You finally figured out the true purpose of this board! You are correct. It is my own personal playground.
Maybe they should be...
Buying a gun online is no different than buying one in a gun store. What's your point?"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0
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