Saay NO to violence against women!

CaterinaA
CaterinaA Posts: 572
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
On Monday, 26 November, UNIFEM and UNIFEM Goodwill Ambassador Nicole Kidman are launching an internet campaign asking people all over the world to raise their voices and add their names to an ever-growing movement of people saying NO to violence against women. The more names we collect, the stronger our case to make ending violence against women a top priority for governments everywhere. When the sign-on email arrives on 26 November, join Ms. Kidman and let survivors of violence around the world know that they can count on us. Click http://www.saynotoviolence.org on or after November 26th and say NO to violence against women. And please, forward to friends and colleagues.

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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    CaterinaA wrote:
    On Monday, 26 November, UNIFEM and UNIFEM Goodwill Ambassador Nicole Kidman are launching an internet campaign asking people all over the world to raise their voices and add their names to an ever-growing movement of people saying NO to violence against women. The more names we collect, the stronger our case to make ending violence against women a top priority for governments everywhere. When the sign-on email arrives on 26 November, join Ms. Kidman and let survivors of violence around the world know that they can count on us. Click http://www.saynotoviolence.org on or after November 26th and say NO to violence against women. And please, forward to friends and colleagues.

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    Caterina
    According to US stats as of 2005 (see link http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0501.pdf page 15) men are more often the victim of violent crime then women. Is there any reason why women should be singled out for action by government when men are the majority victim?

    I'm all for governments working to end violence but see no reason why violence aganst women should have any higher priority than violence against men.
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  • CaterinaA
    CaterinaA Posts: 572
    surferdude wrote:
    According to US stats as of 2005 (see link http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0501.pdf page 15) men are more often the victim of violent crime then women. Is there any reason why women should be singled out for action by government when men are the majority victim?

    I'm all for governments working to end violence but see no reason why violence aganst women should have any higher priority than violence against men.

    Well, but that data just shows the US's situation (we both know that in many situations and indicators developed and developing countries cannot be compared). UNIFEM is a UN organization that works in over 100 countries around the world. In plenty of developing countries, women are still 2nd class citizens and victims of numerous of gender-related crimes. Discrimination against women, and in this case violence against women, just because they are women, is at the core of this campaign.

    This is an awareness campaign and I just wanted to share it with the MT. Trust me, generally speaking, in Latin America women are still not equal. I won't even go to Africa and Asia where they have it much much harder...
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    No!
    :)

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  • CaterinaA
    CaterinaA Posts: 572
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    No!
    :)

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    Thanks my friend! Did you do your full homework :D and sign up at the link I posted :)?
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    CaterinaA wrote:
    Thanks my friend! Did you do your full homework :D and sign up at the link I posted :)?
    ..ehm... sure I did! *Cough*
    Honest, I didnt just now rush back and sign up. Nosiree. :D

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  • fragileblake
    fragileblake Posts: 716
    surferdude wrote:
    why violence aganst women should have any higher priority than violence against men.

    Looking at the very same chart you posted (and other things I have seen doing research on a state level) one could conclude that women are more often the target of certain specific crimes like rape and domestic violence. General violent crime could include anything from gang-related violence (perhaps even including participants) to several other crimes. I view things like domestic violence and sexual assaults and see a big problem that could be alleviated. Maybe if more single white men experienced these problems we could get you on board.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    So if I don't type my name on an internet petition, then I must obviously favor violence against women?
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    I say no to violence against women! And if any ho says i dont I'll smack her in the face!
  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    fragileblake wrote:
    Looking at the very same chart you posted (and other things I have seen doing research on a state level) one could conclude that women are more often the target of certain specific crimes like rape and domestic violence. General violent crime could include anything from gang-related violence (perhaps even including participants) to several other crimes. I view things like domestic violence and sexual assaults and see a big problem that could be alleviated. Maybe if more single white men experienced these problems we could get you on board.

    I completely agree with what you said.

    me thinks that alot of single white men would rather have an emphasis put on alleviating drunken bar brawls, cause it effects them when they go out and get drunk and they're looking for a fight.


    what percentage of crimes do women commit against men just because they're men?
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    my name has been added ... :)
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I'll say "no" by not committing violence against women... I'm all set with internet petitions.
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  • know1
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    CaterinaA wrote:
    On Monday, 26 November, UNIFEM and UNIFEM Goodwill Ambassador Nicole Kidman are launching an internet campaign asking people all over the world to raise their voices and add their names to an ever-growing movement of people saying NO to violence against women. The more names we collect, the stronger our case to make ending violence against women a top priority for governments everywhere. When the sign-on email arrives on 26 November, join Ms. Kidman and let survivors of violence around the world know that they can count on us. Click http://www.saynotoviolence.org on or after November 26th and say NO to violence against women. And please, forward to friends and colleagues.

    Peace
    Caterina

    I do not want to make discrimination a "top priority for governments everywhere"...
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    CaterinaA wrote:
    On Monday, 26 November, UNIFEM and UNIFEM Goodwill Ambassador Nicole Kidman
    jigga what? ambassador kidman?
    CaterinaA wrote:
    are launching an internet campaign asking people all over the world to raise their voices and add their names to an ever-growing movement of people saying NO to violence against women. The more names we collect, the stronger our case to make ending violence against women a top priority for governments everywhere. When the sign-on email arrives on 26 November, join Ms. Kidman and let survivors of violence around the world know that they can count on us. Click http://www.saynotoviolence.org on or after November 26th and say NO to violence against women. And please, forward to friends and colleagues.
    i don't sign online petitions. i'm curious what effect this will have on anything. this sounds like a business meeting to talk about the next business meeting. "yes guys, we disapprove of violence against women. ok, we're agreed. fantastic. thanks for participating!"
  • fanch75
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    What was that one online petition "to make poverty history" or something?

    I'm sure the campaign itself did a lot of good (raising money, etc), but having an "internet petition" is just a silly idea to make people feel good about themselves without really putting for any effort (aka digitally signing something and therefore helping to "make poverty history," though all efforts by that person end right there).

    "I care more than you, because I put my name on an internet petition" (followed by going on about their day, giving up nothing and doing nothing for the said cause).
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  • MattCameronKicksButt
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    fanch75 wrote:
    What was that one online petition "to make poverty history" or something?

    I'm sure the campaign itself did a lot of good (raising money, etc), but having an "internet petition" is just a silly idea to make people feel good about themselves without really putting for any effort (aka digitally signing something and therefore helping to "make poverty history," though all efforts by that person end right there).

    "I care more than you, because I put my name on an internet petition" (followed by going on about their day, giving up nothing and doing nothing for the said cause).

    Don't be silly. It can't do any harm.
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    prism wrote:


    what percentage of crimes do women commit against men just because they're men?




    exactly. :)
    this is in reference to GENDER-BASED violence.....amkes a big difference in focus imho. however, i don't care to bother arguing such semantics here...i know how some view this type of thing. all i WILL say is THANK YOU catarina for posting, and yes, i did sign. :)


    btw - i see it ALL as information and sharing, not who is 'better' than someone else, etc. education is always the first step, and yes...i think a LOT of names DOES actually speak out. is it a tangible change? no. however, such online petitions at the very least educate and let some powers that be truly SEE issues that many think/feel are important and wnat change/results/answers. nothing wrong with that.
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    decides2dream wrote:
    exactly. :)
    this is in reference to GENDER-BASED violence.....amkes a big difference in focus imho. however, i don't care to bother arguing such semantics here...i know how some view this type of thing. all i WILL say is THANK YOU catarina for posting, and yes, i did sign. :)


    btw - i see it ALL as information and sharing, not who is 'better' than someone else, etc. education is always the first step, and yes...i think a LOT of names DOES actually speak out. is it a tangible change? no. however, such online petitions at the very least educate and let some powers that be truly SEE issues that many think/feel are important and wnat change/results/answers. nothing wrong with that.

    Probably good to remember too that if someone does sign an online petition about an issue they have most likely also done other things to help support a particular cause. I don't know too many people that just sign a petition and then do nothing else. :)
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  • soulsinging
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    Jeanie wrote:
    Probably good to remember too that if someone does sign an online petition about an issue they have most likely also done other things to help support a particular cause. I don't know too many people that just sign a petition and then do nothing else. :)

    i've never done anything about any cause i signed a petition for and i don't know anyone else who has either. the only people doing something are walking around with their annoying and worthless petitions trying to get me to sign them ;)
  • Jeanie
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    soulsinging wrote:
    i've never done anything about any cause i signed a petition for and i don't know anyone else who has either. the only people doing something are walking around with their annoying and worthless petitions trying to get me to sign them ;)


    Well I'd say all the people that I know that have signed petitions have also been involved in other efforts to bring awareness and change for a particular issue. And it's not like petitions haven't made a difference either.
    We can't all give money, and not all of us are powerful enough to make change on our own, but there's a lot to be said for people that are willing to give their time and effort being knocked back by people that don't care just so that an issue can be brought to the public eye. Petitions are an excellent way to unify, educate and lodge protest.
    I'd have to say that this petition is probably a damn sight more useful in raising awareness about violence against women than the millions of dollars in advertising that our Federal government spent paying lip service to the issue.
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  • CaterinaA
    CaterinaA Posts: 572
    soulsinging wrote:
    jigga what? ambassador kidman?

    i don't sign online petitions. i'm curious what effect this will have on anything. this sounds like a business meeting to talk about the next business meeting. "yes guys, we disapprove of violence against women. ok, we're agreed. fantastic. thanks for participating!"

    Yep, well the UN usually uses famous people to bring further attention to the causes they support.

    This campaign is just to raise awarenes, of course signining the petition won't stop gender-related violence to stop, but at least it will provide some useful information.

    I may be silly, but I believe in the organization I work for, mainly 'cause I get to see results in the projects I'm involved in some Latin American countries, where violence against women is an issue.

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