Rev. Jerry Falwell Dead
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Abookamongstthemany wrote:As much as I personally disliked the guy, I can't excuse myself to rejoice in his death. That would allow me to spew the same hate that I despised him for spreading.
This is all I have been trying to say. I could have used better words, yes, but very well said Abook.0 -
cant say im sad to see the guy die, but certainly didnt like him at allRon: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?0 -
Byrnzie wrote:What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.
What's really scary is the number of people denouncing Jerry Falwell's message of "hate" with an equivalent amount of vitriol, as if two wrongs make a right.
The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?0 -
dkst0426 wrote:What's really scary is the number of people denouncing Jerry Falwell's message of "hate" with an equivalent amount of vitriol, as if two wrongs make a right.
The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?
I think one definitely outweighs the other, merely on societal scale and impact alone.
Sometimes the bad one does outweighs the good in the final sum of life.
here we have one such man.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Abookamongstthemany wrote:As much as I personally disliked the guy, I can't excuse myself to rejoice in his death. That would allow me to spew the same hate that I despised him for spreading.
i just don't want to stoop to fartwell's level.....i have as much contempt for the man as much as anybody but at some point the one must rise above and hope no one takes his place (yeah right :rolleyes: )0 -
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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inmytree wrote:yup, one tasteless comment labels an entire group....:rolleyes:
either way, while I did not care for Mr. Falwell's views, my condolences for his family and friends...
Right...how many posts on here have been the "good riddance" and "glad that fucker is dead" posts? If it were just one or two, but it is all of you hateful fuckers.0 -
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Byrnzie wrote:
Jerry Falwell spouted hateful, stupid propaganda.
Fuck him! His body should be burned in a trash bin along with Donald Rumsfelds.
Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or type) and confirm it.0 -
bootlegger10 wrote:Right...how many posts on here have been the "good riddance" and "glad that fucker is dead" posts? If it were just one or two, but it is all of you hateful fuckers.
give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
http://static.flickr.com/29/88078979_c92a08b490_o.jpg
lol....pretty close for another planet and all.. I suspect distant cousin...Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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dkst0426 wrote:The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?
This is why anyone with power and influence on this Earth needs to be careful what they say. I have no power or influence so I can say whatever I like about the retarded freak.0 -
bootlegger10 wrote:Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or type) and confirm it.
He did open his mouth and confirm it. Read the quotes above.0 -
RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.
I like your second signature by the way. Have you read either of these books...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Straw-Dogs-Thoughts-Humans-Animals/dp/1862075964/ref=pd_bowtega_3/203-9211971-0743950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179285149&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heresies-Against-Progress-Other-Illusions/dp/1862077185/ref=sr_1_18/203-9211971-0743950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179285149&sr=1-18
Amazon.co.uk Review
John Gray's Straw Dogs attempts to present a world view in which humans are not central and which argues against the humanist belief in progress. The heart of the book is summed up in the idea that modern humanists have still not come to terms with Darwin, still not come to terms with the idea that humans are like other animals. Christians and modern humanists in the Platonic-Cartesian tradition typically think of humans enjoying a special relationship to God, or a special status in nature in a way that other animals do not. Even the great debunkers--philosophers such as Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and Heidegger--end up making human beings the centre of things or the end point of some world-historical process. By contrast, in a Taoist, Shinto, Hindu or animist culture Darwin's discovery would have been easily accommodated since these faiths see humans and other animals as kin.
In short, for Gray, humanism is nothing more than "a secular religion thrown together from decaying scraps of Christian myth". Gray champions James Lovelock's view of the Earth as a self-regulating system whose behaviour resembles, in some ways, that of an organism. The Gaia hypothesis is the backdrop to Gray's apparently relentless pessimism about the fate of humankind. What it teaches us is that this self-regulating system has no need of humanity, does not exist for the sake of humanity, and will regulate itself in ignorance of humanity's fate.
Straw Dogs can be usefully compared with Mary Midgely's excellent Science and Poetry since both take off from the view of man as animal while sharing similar views about the cultural role of philosophy. Both encourage us to overcome the Platonic-Cartesian-Kantian philosophical tradition while stressing the importance of Gaia in emphasising our essential continuity with the physical and natural world. For Gray, humans "think they are free, conscious beings, when in truth they are deluded animals". Straw Dogs could have been made to stretch for 500 large pages. Instead you get 200 small pages of gold; simple, concise, riveting.--Larry Brown0 -
RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.
This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.0 -
zstillings wrote:This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.
The anger being generated from top levels is also daily occurrence at the moment. Hard to separate oneself when it's persistent.
When the war and oppression from top levels subsides I believe society in general will calm as well. From a gov't perspective, it's a terrible example to lead a nation by.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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zstillings wrote:This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.
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Byrnzie wrote:I like your second signature by the way. Have you read either of these books...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Straw-Dogs-Thoughts-Humans-Animals/dp/1862075964/ref=pd_bowtega_3/203-9211971-0743950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179285149&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heresies-Against-Progress-Other-Illusions/dp/1862077185/ref=sr_1_18/203-9211971-0743950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179285149&sr=1-18
Amazon.co.uk Review
John Gray's Straw Dogs attempts to present a world view in which humans are not central and which argues against the humanist belief in progress. The heart of the book is summed up in the idea that modern humanists have still not come to terms with Darwin, still not come to terms with the idea that humans are like other animals. Christians and modern humanists in the Platonic-Cartesian tradition typically think of humans enjoying a special relationship to God, or a special status in nature in a way that other animals do not. Even the great debunkers--philosophers such as Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and Heidegger--end up making human beings the centre of things or the end point of some world-historical process. By contrast, in a Taoist, Shinto, Hindu or animist culture Darwin's discovery would have been easily accommodated since these faiths see humans and other animals as kin.
In short, for Gray, humanism is nothing more than "a secular religion thrown together from decaying scraps of Christian myth". Gray champions James Lovelock's view of the Earth as a self-regulating system whose behaviour resembles, in some ways, that of an organism. The Gaia hypothesis is the backdrop to Gray's apparently relentless pessimism about the fate of humankind. What it teaches us is that this self-regulating system has no need of humanity, does not exist for the sake of humanity, and will regulate itself in ignorance of humanity's fate.
Straw Dogs can be usefully compared with Mary Midgely's excellent Science and Poetry since both take off from the view of man as animal while sharing similar views about the cultural role of philosophy. Both encourage us to overcome the Platonic-Cartesian-Kantian philosophical tradition while stressing the importance of Gaia in emphasising our essential continuity with the physical and natural world. For Gray, humans "think they are free, conscious beings, when in truth they are deluded animals". Straw Dogs could have been made to stretch for 500 large pages. Instead you get 200 small pages of gold; simple, concise, riveting.--Larry Brown
Thanks, judging by your chosen profession, I will certainly take them to heart.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Byrnzie wrote:He did open his mouth and confirm it. Read the quotes above.
Godfather quotes are always relevant: "Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgment."
But my response was to the hypocrisy in your post, that's all. I noticed you didn't even touch that hypocrisy, instead you point to what others do as an excuse for your poor behavior. Take care.0 -
edited........ my tinky winky icon saying "burn in hell fatass" link did not work.0
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