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  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    my stance:

    it's not the wild wild west anymore. why do people feel the need to own guns in this day and age?


    how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Collin wrote:
    So what's the NRA's response to these tragedies?

    why would the nra respond at all? this is not a second ammendment issue; it is a criminal issue. jack daniels doesn't respond to drunk driving incidents nor does chevrolet.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jrb112476 wrote:
    how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed

    I haven't...

    guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?

    please, tell us about some of the "other things"...
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    jrb112476 wrote:
    how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed

    well said. although it's still the wild west where i live.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    onelongsong wrote:
    they are not allowed to buy guns. they broke the law. if laws had any meaning; there wouldn't be crime. laws only give the government the right to prosecute. they don't stop crime.


    he didnt break any law if, for instance, he went along to a Gun Show in Virginia as its perfectly legal to buy a gun at one of these shows without any background checks!!!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    inmytree wrote:
    I haven't...

    guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?

    please, tell us about some of the "other things"...

    Target shooting, skeet shooting, sport of that nature...

    There is a big difference between killing people, which the vast majority of privately owned guns in this country will never be used for, and killing game.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    zstillings wrote:
    Target shooting, skeet shooting, sport of that nature...

    There is a big difference between killing people, which the vast majority of privately owned guns in this country will never be used for, and killing game.

    why can't you use a rock...they can break things, too...

    I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of privately owned guns are for "protection"...i.e. "killing, just in case...."
  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    inmytree wrote:
    I haven't...

    guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?

    please, tell us about some of the "other things"...


    uh..ever heard of hunting?? or are you against killing animals?? ever heard of target shooting?? ever heard of skeet shooting?? ever heard of collecting guns? im for making the gun laws extremely strict, but banning them because you have a bunch of fuckin idiots on drugs that like to shoot people up?? hell no....you are the kind of people that only scream "CONSTITUTION" when its convienent for you....2nd amendment bitch
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    inmytree wrote:
    why can't you use a rock...they can break things, too...

    I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of privately owned guns are for "protection"...i.e. "killing, just in case...."

    And I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority are used for hunting and sport.
  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    inmytree wrote:
    why can't you use a rock...they can break things, too...

    I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of privately owned guns are for "protection"...i.e. "killing, just in case...."


    ITS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT DICK HEAD!! MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY IF YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TELLING YOU WHAT CAN AND CANT HAVE!!
  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    zstillings wrote:
    And I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority are used for hunting and sport.


    i know 2 people out of probably 100 that have guns for "protection"...the rest are hunters
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    dunkman wrote:
    he didnt break any law if, for instance, he went along to a Gun Show in Virginia as its perfectly legal to buy a gun at one of these shows without any background checks!!!

    It is illegal for a non-resident alien to possess a firearms. So obviously you're wrong here.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308.2C01

    He was clearly breaking the law. But we should enact more laws to make it illegal to violate existing laws.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    The shooter was a legal US resident.....
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Collin wrote:
    So what's the NRA's response to these tragedies?

    The National Rifle Association joins the entire country in expressing our deepest condolences to the families of Virginia Tech University and everyone else affected by this horrible tragedy.

    Our thoughts and prayers are with the families.

    We will not have further comment until all the facts are known.

    Andrew Arulanandam
    Director of Public Affairs
    National Rifle Association

    http://www.nra.org/Article.aspx?id=8442
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    jrb112476 wrote:
    ITS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT DICK HEAD!! MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY IF YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TELLING YOU WHAT CAN AND CANT HAVE!!


    But... they do that all the time.. it's called laws.. tells you what you can do and not do, what you can have and not have....

    My.. you are aggressive and rude... yelling.. calling people dick head and bitch... all that with just a few posts.. well done...
  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    cities with the harshest gun control laws have the worst crime
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jrb112476 wrote:
    ITS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT DICK HEAD!! MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY IF YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TELLING YOU WHAT CAN AND CANT HAVE!!

    whoa there partner...I see you're new around this parts....first, relax...take off the caps button...and then take a deep breath....

    second, I understand the 2nd amendment has been interpreted the way you see it...which is fine...

    I was simply asking for some other examples for the use of guns...which were invented to kill...so if you can come up with some, great....if not, that's ok too...it just proves my point, which is guns are made for killing...all that other fun stuff, like shooting things out of the air is just a bonus...

    no need to be calling names...
  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    redrock wrote:
    But... they do that all the time.. it's called laws.. tells you what you can do and not do, what you can have and not have....


    LAWS are a lot different than fucking with the constitution...you want to be like bush??
  • jrb112476
    jrb112476 Posts: 43
    inmytree wrote:
    whoa there partner...I see you're new around this parts....first, relax...take off the caps button...and then take a deep breath....

    second, I understand the 2nd amendment has been interpreted the way you see it...which is fine...

    I was simply asking for some other examples for the use of guns...which were invented to kill...so if you can come up with some, great....if not, that's ok too...it just proves my point, which is guns are made for killing...all that other fun stuff, like shooting things out of the air is just a bonus...

    no need to be calling names...

    sorry, just got a little frustrated....believe me, i would impose SERIOUS requirements for purchasing guns....the way they have it now, anyone can get a gun..at least where i live
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    jrb112476 wrote:
    cities with the harshest gun control laws have the worst crime
    Anything we can refer to?

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