Finally Illinois U Wakes Up

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  • Posts: 8,066
    Cosmo[url wrote:
    http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2001/0314/photo/s_cardtree_i.jpg[/url]


    That may offend Rastas. :)
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    Cosmo wrote:
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    Stanford University used to be called the Stanford Indians... Jim Plunkett graduated as an Indian, but by the time John Elway graduated, they were the Cardinal... not the Cardinal bird or the Catholic Cardinals... the color Cardinal. They didn't want to offend the Catholics or the birds.
    Their mascot... the Stanford Tree. The one and only true mascot that should be in existance.
    http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2001/0314/photo/s_cardtree_i.jpg


    PETT (People for the Ethical Treatment of Trees) is going to be pissed.

    This is gross exploitation.
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    I'm glad it finally worked out for you Ryan. Mascots absolutely do not have any impact on my own cultural understanding but I can see how this is a large issue for many people.
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    ryan198 wrote:
    Chief Illiniwek danced his last racist dance. Could it be that Illinois realized it was acting in a ridiculous manner by allowing an offensive mascot to survive for 81 years, or was it the threat of NCAA sanctions that have ended this minstrel act performed in red-face? Either way it's a step in the right direction, and hopefully others will follow suit.
    you are extremely uninformed.
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    Pacomc79 wrote:
    PETT (People for the Ethical Treatment of Trees) is going to be pissed.

    This is gross exploitation.
    ...
    He DOES exhibit disturbing behavior for a tree.
    http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/tree.jpg
    http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/3321.jpg
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  • Posts: 4,042
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Stanford University used to be called the Stanford Indians... Jim Plunkett graduated as an Indian, but by the time John Elway graduated, they were the Cardinal... not the Cardinal bird or the Catholic Cardinals... the color Cardinal. They didn't want to offend the Catholics or the birds.
    Their mascot... the Stanford Tree. The one and only true mascot that should be in existance.
    http://espn.go.com/media/pg2/2001/0314/photo/s_cardtree_i.jpg

    thanks for the info cosmo. :)
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    snipes824 wrote:
    you are extremely uninformed.
    Could you please explain my uninformity?
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    Cosmo wrote:
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    He DOES exhibit disturbing behavior for a tree.
    http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/tree.jpg
    http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/3321.jpg

    n February 2006, then-Tree **** ******* was suspended until the end of her term as the Tree after her breathalyzer blood-alcohol level was measured at 0.157 (almost twice the legal driving limit in California) during a men's basketball game between Stanford and Cal. UC Berkeley police observed her drinking from a flask during the game and cited her for public drunkenness

    the tree is also a lush evidently.
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  • Posts: 4,042
    snipes824 wrote:
    you are extremely uninformed.

    i can assure you he is extremely well informed.
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    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    i can assure you he is extremely well informed.


    your comment holds as much water as his
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    chopitdown wrote:
    n February 2006, then-Tree **** ******* was suspended until the end of her term as the Tree after her breathalyzer blood-alcohol level was measured at 0.157 (almost twice the legal driving limit in California) during a men's basketball game between Stanford and Cal. UC Berkeley police observed her drinking from a flask during the game and cited her for public drunkenness

    the tree is also a lush evidently.


    That is classic. Maybe it was just sap?

    I also enjoy when the two mascots go toe to toe over the fact that they couldn't make the cheerleader squad and get their agression out on each other.
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  • Posts: 1,015
    chopitdown wrote:
    n February 2006, then-Tree **** ******* was suspended until the end of her term as the Tree after her breathalyzer blood-alcohol level was measured at 0.157 (almost twice the legal driving limit in California) during a men's basketball game between Stanford and Cal. UC Berkeley police observed her drinking from a flask during the game and cited her for public drunkenness

    the tree is also a lush evidently.
    That is funny...as long as she wasn't driving. From what I am gathering she was caught by rival Cal doing this during the game? My only question is, why didn't she hide the flask in her leaves?
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    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    i can assure you he is extremely well informed.
    no you cant. if you think chief illiniwek is offensive and/or abusive than you know nothing of the matter. end of story.
  • Posts: 1,015
    jlew24asu wrote:
    your comment holds as much water as his
    jlew what sort of information are you bringing to the table that forms your opinion? I'm basing mine on several years of research conducted by multiple academics, and lawmembers, who have tracked the e/affects of native american mascots. I can link you to or direct you to several different peer reviewed articles which explicitly outline the negatives of native american masconts. Failing that, several times, I have suggested watching the film Act of Honor or Exploitation, which breaks down the falsity of the Chief Illiniwek mascot, as well as, depicts what it is like for a Native American to confront those who celebrate the mascot specifically at UofI. Somehow, however, I am extremely uniformed and have an opinion that holds no water. Given that statement I would like to see information that you have gathered that has not been created by the University of Illinois (which is NOT peer reviewed), or its fan constituency.
  • Posts: 10,118
    snipes824 wrote:
    no you cant. if you think chief illiniwek is offensive and/or abusive than you know nothing of the matter. end of story.

    tell him why then
  • Posts: 1,015
    snipes824 wrote:
    no you cant. if you think chief illiniwek is offensive and/or abusive than you know nothing of the matter. end of story.
    please explain this to me? what sort of evidence do you have that shows he is not offensive or abusive - or helps create an atmosphere of abuse?
  • Posts: 4,042
    jlew24asu wrote:
    your comment holds as much water as his

    you certainly are quite a little gnat.

    i had a nice PM conversation with ryan 198 and i can see now why he is so well informed, that's all.
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    even flow? wrote:
    That is classic. Maybe it was just sap?

    I also enjoy when the two mascots go toe to toe over the fact that they couldn't make the cheerleader squad and get their agression out on each other.

    it must've been that Canadian sap...the american stuff can't do that to ya.
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  • Posts: 10,118
    ryan198 wrote:
    jlew what sort of information are you bringing to the table that forms your opinion? I'm basing mine on several years of research conducted by multiple academics, and lawmembers, who have tracked the e/affects of native american mascots. I can link you to or direct you to several different peer reviewed articles which explicitly outline the negatives of native american masconts. Failing that, several times, I have suggested watching the film Act of Honor or Exploitation, which breaks down the falsity of the Chief Illiniwek mascot, as well as, depicts what it is like for a Native American to confront those who celebrate the mascot specifically at UofI. Somehow, however, I am extremely uniformed and have an opinion that holds no water. Given that statement I would like to see information that you have gathered that has not been created by the University of Illinois (which is NOT peer reviewed), or its fan constituency.


    I wasnt talking about you.
  • Posts: 10,118
    mookie blaylock 10 wrote:
    you certainly are quite a little gnat.

    i had a nice PM conversation with ryan 198 and i can see now why he is so well informed, that's all.


    thats nice.
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    i appologize, i thought you were commenting about a comment towards me. sorry for the mistake.

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