Ohio School Shooter worshipped Marilyn Manson

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    fragileblake wrote:
    I dunno, I feel like shooting someone when I'm forced to hear Led Zepplin

    See I usually get the urge when I hear a Michael Bolton song. His music just throws me into a rage that can only be cured by a massive shooting spree.
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    because for some reason, manson is the symbol for all that is wrong with the world. hell, more people have died as a result of bush's actions, than people that have died from manson's music
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    why is it ALWAYS Marylin Manson..? Never Cannibal Corpse... Never Slayer?? I mean hell Nine inch Nails is depressing....

    why not Hanson or the teletubbies or Jerry Falwell??


    People who are suicidal fuckups are going to do what they are going to do regardless, music is an out. I'm going to imagine there are a lot more fucked up things going on in the home life.

    Life does not need to change for everyone else simply because this happens. That's what they freaking want to happen.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    RainDog wrote:
    And who knows how many leapt to their deaths off the La Jolla cliffs after a particularly involving game of Q*Bert.

    Goddam, I love that game...

    I may have to hook up the old PS1 and play some tonight...

    I hope I don't jump off a roof or something...
  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    I just read that the 14 year old who killed those people had his rifle bought for him by his mother at a gun show. Im sorry but what the fuck is wrong with these people? :s
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    RainDog wrote:
    Listen, people. It's spelled Led Zeppelin. Considering the fact that hard rock holds such undeniable power over our minds, our actions - hell, even our very souls - you'd be wise to not insult the grand masters of all that is unholy in music with your impudent misspellings.

    LOL....I love this post :D
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,066
    first off, none of the victims died other than the shooter, so he is not a murderer.

    secondly, i will say that i am no manson fan and i think he is an idiot and his music really sucks. but i will defend him and say that it is always marilyn manson because he is easy to blame. with the way he dresses and what he says and sings scares the shit out of the establishment. adults just don't "get him". especially in the redneck parts of the country. it is easy to blame someone who has called himself antichrist superstar. he is different from the norm, and different is scary to alot of people.

    people are always looking to blame someone else without examining themselves first. like the parents..."why would little johnny do such a thing? it must be that music he listens to. nevermind the fact that i am a shitty parent." parents and society are always apt to blame the boogeyman instead of looking to see where they failed and try to fix it so the next occurance does not happen.
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  • MahoganySouls
    MahoganySouls Posts: 357
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    people are always looking to blame someone else without examining themselves first. like the parents..."why would little johnny do such a thing? it must be that music he listens to. nevermind the fact that i am a shitty parent." parents and society are always apt to blame the boogeyman instead of looking to see where they failed and try to fix it so the next occurance does not happen.
    Very true. So then the question is, would a "good" parent allow their child to listen to MM or other negative music?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Very true. So then the question is, would a "good" parent allow their child to listen to MM or other negative music?

    You have done nothing but mention the "parent problem" in nearly everyone of your posts for the past few days.

    Let's cut to the chase.

    What's the deal here?
    Lots of us have been victims of poor parenting choices. All parents are gonna fuck something up. It isn't the only thing. In fact, it isn't even the current thing. That is, unless you're still a kid.
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  • MahoganySouls
    MahoganySouls Posts: 357
    gue_barium wrote:
    You have done nothing but mention the "parent problem" in nearly everyone of your posts for the past few days.

    Let's cut to the chase.

    What's the deal here?
    Lots of us have been victims of poor parenting choices. All parents are gonna fuck something up. It isn't the only thing. In fact, it isn't even the current thing. That is, unless you're still a kid.
    Im not sure there is a "chase" however parenting is an enormous social ill. Far too many people today renig on their responsibility as parents and this causes a host of problems to the community as a whole.

    Did you question the other posters as to why they involved parenting in their comment? What are you looking for?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Im not sure there is a "chase" however parenting is an enormous social ill. Far too many people today renig on their responsibility as parents and this causes a host of problems to the community as a whole.

    Did you question the other posters as to why they involved parenting in their comment? What are you looking for?

    That sounds about as generalized as anything else you have said, Juberoo. What I'm getting at and asking for is, what is your personal experience in this matter insomuch it as at the crux of so much of your argument?
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Very true. So then the question is, would a "good" parent allow their child to listen to MM or other negative music?

    not that i'm a fan of Marilyn Manson or his music. but I would not have cared if either of my kids had ever wanted to listen to it. it's not as if they had listened to his music that they would've grabbed a gun and headed to school to shoot the place up. a good parent doesn't censor the music that their kid listens to. this kid was fucked up, he'd would've been regardless of the music he listened to.

    since when do you get to decide what is considered "negative music?"
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    Im not sure there is a "chase" however parenting is an enormous social ill. Far too many people today renig on their responsibility as parents and this causes a host of problems to the community as a whole.

    Did you question the other posters as to why they involved parenting in their comment? What are you looking for?


    jeeesus fucking christ, you are insane
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  • MahoganySouls
    MahoganySouls Posts: 357
    gue_barium wrote:
    That sounds about as generalized as anything else you have said, Juberoo. What I'm getting at and asking for is, what is your personal experience in this matter insomuch it as at the crux of so much of your argument?
    I am not this Juberoo person so stop comparing me to him.

    My personal experience is that I deal with the after effects of this "matter" when these same parents lose control over their children because they were too self absorbed and uneducated to raise them properly.

    Ineffective or absent parenting is to blame. Not the schools, not the doctors, not the other students, not the government etc.
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  • MahoganySouls
    MahoganySouls Posts: 357
    prism wrote:
    jeeesus fucking christ, you are insane
    What is insane is that you fail to see the connection.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    I am not this Juberoo person so stop comparing me to him.

    My personal experience is that I deal with the after effects of this "matter" when these same parents lose control over their children because they were too self absorbed and uneducated to raise them properly.

    Ineffective or absent parenting is to blame. Not the schools, not the doctors, not the other students, not the government etc.

    I accept that reply.

    Thank you.
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    What is insane is that you fail to see the connection.

    you said "parenting is an enormous social ill" perhaps if you had said that "bad parenting is an enormous social ill" you'd at least make a little sense. but you can't not blame everything on parenting good or bad...there are many social ills that have nothing to do with how good or bad one's parents are/were.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    What is insane is that you fail to see the connection.

    There is no insanity here. Is there MS?
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  • MahoganySouls
    MahoganySouls Posts: 357
    prism wrote:
    you said "parenting is an enormous social ill" perhaps if you had said that "bad parenting is an enormous social ill" you'd at least make a little sense. but you can't not blame everything on parenting good or bad...there are many social ills that have nothing to do with how good or bad one's parents are/were.
    yes that is true, I should have clarified "bad parenting".
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  • MahoganySouls
    MahoganySouls Posts: 357
    gue_barium wrote:
    There is no insanity here. Is there MS?
    LOL oh quite the contrary, I see plenty of insanity here :)
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MahoganySouls wrote:
    LOL oh quite the contrary, I see plenty of insanity here :)

    You realize that's the romance in your head, don't you?
    I don't mean the candlelit dinner date thing. I mean the era. The era in the history of literature and fiction. It lives with us still. I don't knock it. I do say it's mostly fiction. Media becomes us. It has for thousands of years. It's in the storytelling. You're a storyteller, as am I. I'm citing the influence of your prediliction to the romantic philosophy.
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