Ohio School Shooter worshipped Marilyn Manson

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

That is NOT what I said. What I said was, if specific jobs require them to be lacking in parenting skills because they are too tired, busy or absent...then NO they are not capable of handing a child correctly.
Your direction of this thread was that parents who work hard long hours should not be penalized for slacking off on parenting. My response is that they are just as accountable as any other parent.

You're not reading to the words I am writing. You are incapable of realistic discussion. You are part of the problem. You need to be terminated.

Bwahahahahahaha!

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

Wow.

Wow.

You really are a 'droid.

This discussion is probably over. You are without a human soul.

It is called reality and responsibility. Something that is sorely missing in your perspective.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

I bet most of us were born under less than perfect conditions.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

It is called reality and responsibility. Something that is sorely missing in your perspective.

You don't have my perspective you idiotic cunt.

Who's being realistic here?

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

Following this line of discussion, in real life, the garbageman should slit you from crotch to earlobe if you gave that answer to my question to his face.

I do it all the time. My job requires me to force parents to uphold their parenting responsibilities regardless of their income level. There simply is no excuse for poor parenting. If you have the kids, you have to answer to reality.

MahoganySouls

MrSmith wrote:

at what cost to the parents when you are 70 and wished you'd started a family but didn't have the money? Kids are tough. They can survive more than we give them credit for.


Geez, its not always about the children, sometimes its about being a human being.

So then you think we have children simply to have caretakers when we are old? What a bleak outlook. Espec. for your children.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

So then you think we have children simply to have caretakers when we are old? What a bleak outlook. Espec. for your children.

Yep, another illiterate.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

I do it all the time. My job requires me to force parents to uphold their parenting responsibilities regardless of their income level. There simply is no excuse for poor parenting. If you have the kids, you have to answer to reality.

I think it's more a matter that there's pretty much no excuse for your parents.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

MahoganySouls wrote:

So then you think we have children simply to have caretakers when we are old? What a bleak outlook. Espec. for your children.

Not caretakers. How about not wanting to be alone or knowing some part of you will go on to the next generation?

wow you really are a droid haha

MahoganySouls

Here is something to consider as well. In previous generations (perfect example being the depression era), many folks were dirt poor. Yet they managed to provide stable home environments for their children. What was the difference between now and then? The focus was on family life. Everyone was held accountable to their roles in that dynamic. That is why it succeeded. Today, we have far too many "wants" instead of needs. Too many parents today have pushed aside the family first ideology for the me first ideology.

MahoganySouls

MrSmith wrote:

Not caretakers. How about not wanting to be alone or knowing some part of you will go on to the next generation?

wow you really are a droid haha

So then again, you are putting your wants before the needs of your child. How is that fair?

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

Here is something to consider as well. In previous generations (perfect example being the depression era), many folks were dirt poor. Yet they managed to provide stable home environments for their children. What was the difference between now and then? The focus was on family life. Everyone was held accountable to their roles in that dynamic. That is why it succeeded. Today, we have far too many "wants" instead of needs. Too many parents today have pushed aside the family first ideology for the me first ideology.

But, in your job, you don't address that, do you? I'll bet a million dollars.

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

So then again, you are putting your wants before the needs of your child. How is that fair?

Bullshit. What is family to begin with?

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

But, in your job, you don't address that, do you? I'll bet a million dollars.

You would bet wrong. Poverty is not an excuse to neglect children. It never is accepted. And believe me, it is tried a lot!

Focusing on priorities is also addressed each and every case. This is spelled out in specifics such as "you cannot leave your kids home alone to go to the bar on ladies night", "you should buy groceries before you buy your bling", "don't leave the kids with your neighbor who is a known meth dealer", "choosing the less expensive plain car is much more realistic than the high end one", "bathe your kids regularly", "do the homework with them, don't expect them to do it alone", "limit tv and computer time", "support the school when they discipline your childs inappropriate behavior"etc.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

MahoganySouls wrote:

So then again, you are putting your wants before the needs of your child. How is that fair?

I guess i would just be a cold hearted selfish bastard for bringing the kid into the world and hoping for a phone call when I'm old.

Does this compute or should i type it out in binary? I know the X43LM series of droid had a problem with language comprehension.

gue_barium

MrSmith wrote:

I guess i would just be a cold hearted selfish bastard for bringing the kid into the world and hoping for a phone call when I'm old.

Does this compute or should i type it out in binary? I know the X43LM series of droid had a problem with language comprehension.

jeez, you're not even gonna take him fishin'?

gue_barium

MahoganySouls wrote:

You would bet wrong. Poverty is not an excuse to neglect children. It never is accepted. And believe me, it is tried a lot!

Focusing on priorities is also addressed each and every case.

I don't know what the fuck your job is, but it isn't needed here. Just be yourself and you might communicate a lot better.

MahoganySouls

MrSmith wrote:

I guess i would just be a cold hearted selfish bastard for bringing the kid into the world and hoping for a phone call when I'm old.

Does this compute or should i type it out in binary? I know the X43LM series of droid had a problem with language comprehension.

yes it would be selfish if you didnt' have the ability to give the child a decent upbringing

MahoganySouls

gue_barium wrote:

I don't know what the fuck your job is, but it isn't needed here. Just be yourself and you might communicate a lot better.

My communication is just fine. You simply don't like what I have to say.

gue_barium

gue_barium wrote:

I don't know what the fuck your job is, but it isn't needed here. Just be yourself and you might communicate a lot better.

Just the fact that you're using families who have met misfortune to further whatever your politics is enough to warrant my disrespect. I've tried to be personable, I've tried to be emotional, I've tried to be as friendly as this writing on the internet allows yet you continue this politicking with what must be very unfortunate and private circumstances of the families you encounter. You give them no dignity here in your efforts, and you should be ashamed that you waste your energies in trying to supplicate your psyche that way in a public forum aside the manner that which you are actually employed. I think you're a twisted fuck up.