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  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    RockKing wrote:
    That would certainly explain that last line. Which is fascinating because this whole time I've thought of the main character (ourselves) as the only protagonist. I've seen the album as self vs everyone else. This would introduce a new protagonist. Fascinating thought to ponder.

    of course we're projecting our own ideas and interpretations onto this, but I thought this angle made sense. think about the last line: "your dream, I see" followed up by PMPM.

    it makes sense to me. who knows?
    this post has been approved by grace6697.
  • distantsun wrote:
    of course we're projecting our own ideas and interpretations onto this, but I thought this angle made sense. think about the last line: "your dream, I see" followed up by PMPM.

    it makes sense to me. who knows?
    If it has anything to do with Master & Margarita as I would suppose, since Jeff said in some interview that Pilate was
    asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
    I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.

    A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):

    "Kat
    05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
    Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate. :)
    Love,
    Kat

    From 1998 Guitar World article:

    From: Guitar World "All For One"
    by Vic Garbarini
    March, 1998

    GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
    frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
    But why does Pilate have a dog?

    JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
    was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
    [by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
    Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
    and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
    was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
    being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
    a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
    Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
    his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
    didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
    and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
    light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
    feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
    peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
    It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
    particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
    lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
    it until it became a song."

    edit: the quote copied twice, removed one.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • RockKing
    RockKing Posts: 431
    That makes a lot of sense and pretty much fits into what we were saying. In reference to Pilate, you could argue that Pilate took the easy way out. We appeased the crowd. And he suffered isolation and confusion as a result. I think Low Light does an EXCELLENT job mirroring that feeling. Good work by Jeff on this one.
    --"I'm like an opening band for the sun"

    --"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    If it has anything to do with Master & Margarita as I would suppose, since Jeff said in some interview that Pilate was
    asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
    I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.

    A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):

    "Kat
    05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
    Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate. :)
    Love,
    Kat

    From 1998 Guitar World article:

    From: Guitar World "All For One"
    by Vic Garbarini
    March, 1998

    GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
    frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
    But why does Pilate have a dog?

    JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
    was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
    [by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
    Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
    and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
    was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
    being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
    a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
    Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
    his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
    didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
    and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
    light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
    feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
    peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
    It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
    particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
    lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
    it until it became a song."

    edit: the quote copied twice, removed one.

    I have a really stupid question. Ed wrote the lyrics to Low Light, right?
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • meme wrote:
    I have a really stupid question. Ed wrote the lyrics to Low Light, right?
    All Jeff.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    in light of jeff's comments (thanks dawg!), i think the placement before PMPM is definitely no mistake.
    this post has been approved by grace6697.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    If it has anything to do with Master & Margarita as I would suppose, since Jeff said in some interview that Pilate was
    asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
    I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.

    A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):

    "Kat
    05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
    Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate. :)
    Love,
    Kat

    From 1998 Guitar World article:

    From: Guitar World "All For One"
    by Vic Garbarini
    March, 1998

    GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
    frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
    But why does Pilate have a dog?

    JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
    was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
    [by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
    Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
    and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
    was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
    being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
    a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
    Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
    his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
    didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
    and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
    light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
    feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
    peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
    It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
    particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
    lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
    it until it became a song."

    edit: the quote copied twice, removed one.

    Wow. That's enlightening. It really gives me a totally new appreciation for Low Light, and I need to go relisten to Pilate.

    Nobody has the rest of this interview lying around...?
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • yosi wrote:
    Wow. That's enlightening. It really gives me a totally new appreciation for Low Light, and I need to go relisten to Pilate.

    Nobody has the rest of this interview lying around...?
    Since you asked nicely:

    http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/articles/gw0398.shtml


    :D
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272

    Sweet! Now I have some fun reading to do at work... :D
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • yosi wrote:
    Sweet! Now I have some fun reading to do at work... :D
    I liked this one for the Jeff quote, but this sentence is all wrong, right?

    Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."

    That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!

    Argh.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    All Jeff.

    oooooh. Nevermind then. Are the lyrics credits in the booklet? I need to pick that up again.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I liked this one for the Jeff quote, but this sentence is all wrong, right?

    Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."

    That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!

    Argh.

    That's the point. If you read the next line, he tells you that the hardcore fan would be wrong to think that (I was confused and had to read it like 6 times). He just wanted to show how different this album is from the previous ones and that it breaks the mold from what we're used too.

    It was a great article. Very Yieldy, all about giving yourself over and just letting things roll. Trying to get over egos and just go with the flow. I guess that really is what the album is about :p
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • yosi wrote:
    That's the point. If you read the next line, he tells you that the hardcore fan would be wrong to think that (I was confused and had to read it like 6 times). He just wanted to show how different this album is from the previous ones and that it breaks the mold from what we're used too.

    It was a great article. Very Yieldy, all about giving yourself over and just letting things roll. Trying to get over egos and just go with the flow. I guess that really is what the album is about :p
    haa.

    I haven't read this in years and my eyes hit that and I got pissed off and gave up.
    Thank you for your patience.

    :D
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    haa.

    I haven't read this in years and my eyes hit that and I got pissed off and gave up.
    Thank you for your patience.

    :D

    Sho' thing. Its a very good article.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • RockKing
    RockKing Posts: 431
    I liked this one for the Jeff quote, but this sentence is all wrong, right?

    Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."

    That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!

    Argh.

    Par for the course for Guitar World. When I first started playing, I subscribed to it for a year, but there were SO many inaccuracies and ridiculous opinion based articles that I never renewed my subscription.
    --"I'm like an opening band for the sun"

    --"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    RockKing wrote:
    Par for the course for Guitar World. When I first started playing, I subscribed to it for a year, but there were SO many inaccuracies and ridiculous opinion based articles that I never renewed my subscription.

    Read my post on the last page (or keep reading the article) to see why it makes sense.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • RockKing
    RockKing Posts: 431
    yosi wrote:
    Read my post on the last page (or keep reading the article) to see why it makes sense.

    Well, this particular article may be ok, but that doesn't change my general feelings about Guitar World Magazine. "Journalism", my ass.
    --"I'm like an opening band for the sun"

    --"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    RockKing wrote:
    Well, this particular article may be ok, but that doesn't change my general feelings about Guitar World Magazine. "Journalism", my ass.

    I have no idea seeing that I don't really read GW.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • RockKing wrote:
    "Journalism", my ass.

    I'm reading Chuck Klosterman's IV right now. Good, funny book.

    Someone posted this last year...his article on how the music died in February of 1998.
    http://www.spinmagazine.com/features/magazine/columns/chuck_klosterman/2006/01/060122_chuck_column/
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I'm reading Chuck Klosterman's IV right now. Good, funny book.

    Someone posted this last year...his article on how the music died in February of 1998.
    http://www.spinmagazine.com/features/magazine/columns/chuck_klosterman/2006/01/060122_chuck_column/

    Funny but dumb article. It would have made more sense had taken a magazine from the end of the year, instead of the one month after the year started... :rolleyes:
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.