Blind Melon 10/07/07

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  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    soulsinging wrote:
    im guessing by your tone that that he doesn't give a rat's ass about is you and your self righteous attitude about what he can and cannot do with HIS band. i'm a true melon fan, and i am just fine with this. becos actually knowing a few things about the band beyond your mindless, casual lead singer worship (only the most casual fans of a band focus on lead singers as much as you do), i'm aware that shannon auditioned for the band. you said yourself, change was the first song he played to THEM. THEY were a band before shannon. they are a band after. and they can go on to record and tour with whoever the fuck they want. they are far from the first band to have more than one singer throughout their career. ever hear of a band called pink floyd? pretty sure they didn't pack it in and call it quits once syd barrett left. then there's the aforementioned ac/dc. faith no more. van halen.

    I'm so sick of the "such & such band did it" comparison. Well "such & such" wasn't my fav. band & just because someone else did it doesn't make it right. Yeah, you're right I'm just a casual fan, I can't understand why this bothers me so much. :rolleyes: He auditioned for the band, that is correct, but to say they were a band before would be debatable. While all the members brought their uniqueness to the band, Shannon was the the true creative driving force & passion behind it. Listen to the new songs compared to the old & tell me they compare. They were in a whole nother league before. To classify themselves as the same band is insulting to Shannon, the fans & their catalog.

    I had nothing against any of the guys for continuing with other projects & continuing to play music after Shannon died, hell, that's what they do & should be doing.

    I held great respect for the band for deciding not to continue under the Melon name after Shannon passed. It showed that the guys really thought of themselves as brothers as they always claimed. Just cuz 12 years passes you don't replace your brother do you?
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I'm so sick of the "such & such band did it" comparison. Well "such & such" wasn't my fav. band & just because someone else did it doesn't make it right. Yeah, you're right I'm just a casual fan, I can't understand why this bothers me so much. :rolleyes: He auditioned for the band, that is correct, but to say they were a band before would be debatable. While all the members brought their uniqueness to the band, Shannon was the the true creative driving force & passion behind it. Listen to the new songs compared to the old & tell me they compare. They were in a whole nother league before. To classify themselves as the same band is insulting to Shannon, the fans & their catalog.

    I had nothing against any of the guys for continuing with other projects & continuing to play music after Shannon died, hell, that's what they do & should be doing.

    I held great respect for the band for deciding not to continue under the Melon name after Shannon passed. It showed that the guys really thought of themselves as brothers as they always claimed. Just cuz 12 years passes you don't replace your brother do you?

    no, but i won't be changing my name when my brother dies either... becos i'm still a member of the mc___ family. i haven't heard the new songs. i think i heard 3 of them and i liked them all very much. what drew me to the band in the first place was always the songwriting and the musicianship. shannon was icing on the cake.

    my point with the other bands is how can you forgive pink floyd, but not blind melon? they classified themselves as the same band... do you feel that was an insult to their fans? were dark side of the moon and the wall huge insults that should never have seen the light of day?
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    Just curious, how old are you, soulsinging?
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    Just curious, how old are you, soulsinging?

    25. what difference does that make?
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    To classify themselves as the same band is insulting to Shannon, the fans & their catalog.

    I think it's clear that they're not the same band. But, while touring under that moniker, they are going to pay tribute/respect to some great songs
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I had nothing against any of the guys for continuing with other projects & continuing to play music after Shannon died, hell, that's what they do & should be doing.

    I applaud them to trying different projects. Again, it didn't click. They have every right to continue on with a name they established.

    I agree with with soulsinging said in another thread...to paraphrase: You're championing Shannon as if he appreciates you having his back.

    I think Shannon would appreciate the respect his band mates show him and I think he would want his music to live on in a live atmosphere.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • The Severed Hand
    The Severed Hand Posts: 214
    Blind Melon is an incredible band that had the heart and soul of a real band. Their albums kept rock alive for me through these turbulent times in the 21st century. We need this band to rock and roll!!!

    Are they coming to Detroit??? Please tell me they are at least hittin Toledo!
  • NuclearTreeFrog
    NuclearTreeFrog Posts: 225
    Lets all stop making such a big fuss over a mediocre one hit wonder band.
    "The sun is shining, but not for me."
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,578
    NuclearTreeFrog wrote:
    Lets all stop making such a big fuss over a mediocre one hit wonder band.


    kidding right?

    you actually heard any of their albums or songs except no rain?
  • NuclearTreeFrog
    NuclearTreeFrog Posts: 225
    I BrisK I wrote:
    kidding right?

    you actually heard any of their albums or songs except no rain?

    I've heard all 3 of their albums.
    "The sun is shining, but not for me."
  • The Severed Hand
    The Severed Hand Posts: 214
    Exactly! No Rain was cool and that got me interested in the album. I asked one of my music loving friends and they had seen them live and said they kick ass. Picked up the first album and bought the other two a week later.

    Check out Black Stone Cherry! They are a new young band out of the south.
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    soulsinging wrote:
    25. what difference does that make?

    Ah, ok. So you were only 13 when Shannon died & either weren't a fan yet, or some kid who couldn't grasp it. That's all I needed to know.
    NuclearTreeFrog wrote:
    Lets all stop making such a big fuss over a mediocre one hit wonder band.

    lol...asswipe. :p
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    Jealous; Blind Melon is one of the all time best bands. Still listen to them on a weekly basis.
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    I thought the world...Turns out the world thought me
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    Ah, ok. So you were only 13 when Shannon died & either weren't a fan yet, or some kid who couldn't grasp it. That's all I needed to know.

    You lose a lot of creditability with that statement. :(

    I was 18 at the time of his passing.

    I was incredibly saddened by his death. I related to their music and appreciated the sound they created.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    You lose a lot of creditability with that statement. :(

    I was 18 at the time of his passing.

    I was incredibly saddened by his death. I related to their music and appreciated the sound they created.

    PBM


    There's a big difference between 18 & 13 when it comes to understanding & appreciating music, PBM. I was 17 & they were my fav. band when he passed.
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    There's a big difference between 18 & 13 when it comes to understanding & appreciating music, PBM. I was 17 & they were my fav. band when he passed.

    That totally depends on the person, some people can be very mature at 13, just as some people can be incredibly immature at 18.
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    facepollution wrote:
    That totally depends on the person, some people can be very mature at 13, just as some people can be incredibly immature at 18.

    Yeah, you are right...But this kid in particular is still immature, so I can only imagine what 13 was like for him. lol.
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    Yeah, you are right...But this kid in particular is still immature, so I can only imagine what 13 was like for him. lol.

    Dude, with all due respect (and of course you're entitled to your opinion), why do you bother arguing in these Blind Melon threads? Your opinion is based solely on emotion and completely devoid of logic. If you're so intent on shunning the reunion, why waste your energy debating the finer points when you have no plans to even entertain anyone else's opinions?

    Just because you believe Shannon was the heart and soul of the band, doesn't mean he was. Just as I will always think of Chris Cornell as the most important member of Soundgarden, doesn't mean the other members didn't bring equal talent to their roles in the band. It just so happens that the singer gets to deliver the most emotional aspect of the music, i.e the lyrics and vocals - but all of those things would be worthless without the musical backing.
  • mouthfulofsoup
    mouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    facepollution wrote:
    Dude, with all due respect (and of course you're entitled to your opinion), why do you bother arguing in these Blind Melon threads? Your opinion is based solely on emotion and completely devoid of logic. If you're so intent on shunning the reunion, why waste your energy debating the finer points when you have no plans to even entertain anyone else's opinions?

    Just because you believe Shannon was the heart and soul of the band, doesn't mean he was. Just as I will always think of Chris Cornell as the most important member of Soundgarden, doesn't mean the other members didn't bring equal talent to their roles in the band. It just so happens that the singer gets to deliver the most emotional aspect of the music, i.e the lyrics and vocals - but all of those things would be worthless without the musical backing.

    Yea, it's a useless battle & waste of time...but I can't stand to see people raving about "BLIND MELON" when it's so wrong to me. I remember a time, back before they decided to get back together, someone would suggest it, & everyone would say it wouldn't be the same & how ridiculous it was. Now everyone thinks it's the greatest thing in the world & I just don't get it.

    Blind Melon was my fav. band when Shannon passed, & still is to this day. When all was said & done, I was left with this perfect band, with a perfect catalog that nothing would ever be able to destroy.

    I know I will not change anyone's mind, nor will anyone change mine. I'm just venting...
    "Oh, a flower you are to my land..."
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I'm just venting...

    I think we understand where you're coming from. I think we'd all love for Shannon to be here making great music.

    But, the past is the past.

    I'm excited to see Glen, Chris, Rogers and Brad create new music with Travis and honor the music of Shannon.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

    Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
  • newwetkojak
    newwetkojak Posts: 62
    you guys need to splash some fuckin water on yer faces. cool off. damn.


    this sounds more like a tribute of sorts than a cash cow. i know some people love this band and have for years and years and years, but the fact is, i bet very few young people are discovering blind melon these days, especially the beautiful classicness of "soup." most of blind melon's best songs are on that album and it's shitty that the other band members were only able to play these songs that they poured their fuckin guts into (not just shannon) live a handful of times before hoon kicked it on tour. after 12 years, they probably realized that this was some of the very best, most inspired music they have ever made, and were saddened that barely anyone even knows about the record. from that set list, they wanna bring that album out of obscurity and into some form of modern relevance. you wanna cut their throats for that? i doubt shannon is very pissed off about this. he's probably pretty damn proud to see em come to terms emotionally with everything. let's everyone heal a little bit.

    if yer a fan, sorry to say, you are nothing but a spectator, regardless of your emotional involvement. you didn't conceive of these songs. you didn't give birth to em. you didn't sweat it out with your friends and hope and dream that people will connect with your art. you didn't have yer friend robbed before it could be achieved. these guys have their reasons for this, and you can't fault em for thier decisions. they wanna play these songs live with a crowd that knows every fucking word and pay tribute to their friend as well as their own amazing musical legacy.

    fuck off if you think that's wrong.

    now, if they start doing commercials and shit, then i'll cry foul. but for a tour, big fucking deal. geez.

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