Seniority is goin DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

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  • Foxy Mop
    Foxy Mop Posts: 2,823
    dangerboy wrote:
    bwaha! aint' that the truth!

    i think the non-excited, entitlement, elitists are the minority, though. i mean, i've seen them and had to deal with them, but it's been my experience over the years that most people trade each other up, give away extras, sell them at face or whatever. with the gang of people i've hung out with regularly over the last 15 years, we call it "pj karma". it always comes back somehow or other, and it's rewarded our genorosity time after time. once you get it rolling, and it comes back to you just once, you can't help but "pay it forward"...

    That's what I've run into 95% of the time. It's unfortunate though that the remaining 5% give everyone else a bad name.. :)
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  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Said it before and I will keep on saying it. Nothing wrong with switching it up every now and then. It keeps it interesting. :)
  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    dangerboy wrote:
    that's a bad attitude. puts people on the defensive and makes them much less willing to be friendly about it. what if i said "if the newbies want to bitch about seniority, well, so sorry. cry elsewhere", how would you take that?

    Point taken...perhaps I should have mentioned in there that I'm damn near a senior myself.

    But you are right....peace
  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    Said it before and I will keep on saying it. Nothing wrong with switching it up every now and then. It keeps it interesting. :)

    Hey Patrick! Glad to hear things have stabilized at home! I hope it continues so.... still tough Im sure though

    Whats with the move to Denver?

    Am I seeing fewer Alpine threads ahead and more about Red Rocks???
  • dangerboy
    dangerboy Posts: 1,569
    Kingmidget wrote:
    Point taken...perhaps I should have mentioned in there that I'm damn near a senior myself.

    But you are right....peace

    haha one day we'll be seeing them from the fan club wheelchair section on a tour sponsored by life alert....


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  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Kingmidget wrote:
    Hey Patrick! Glad to hear things have stabilized at home! I hope it continues so.... still tough Im sure though

    Whats with the move to Denver?

    Am I seeing fewer Alpine threads ahead and more about Red Rocks???


    Well a week ago I was sitting in the ER so yea it's a little better. Not 100% but getting better. Thanks for the well wishes. :)

    I'm making a change and trying someplace new. I just need to get away from Wisconsin for a little while. Of course if they come back to Alpine I'll be there. :D Red Rocks would be sweet also.

    But I must be careful and not sound greedy. hehehe :D
  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    dangerboy wrote:
    haha one day we'll be seeing them from the fan club wheelchair section on a tour sponsored by life alert....

    As longs as the boys are rockin I'll be there! I'm close to them in age, so I figure I can rock out in the audience (even if in my "Hooveround") for at least as long as Ed can keep jammin... :)
  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    Well a week ago I was sitting in the ER so yea it's a little better. Not 100% but getting better. Thanks for the well wishes. :)

    I'm making a change and trying someplace new. I just need to get away from Wisconsin for a little while. Of course if they come back to Alpine I'll be there. :D Red Rocks would be sweet also.

    But I must be careful and not sound greedy. hehehe :D

    You had better make it to Alpine! :) I had hoped to meet and share a secret thats growin in my basement!

    Hang in there (you and the family)!
  • ediger
    ediger Posts: 308
    MrSmith wrote:
    i think the band wants to slowly make their music available to a more diverse audience. they probably get tired of playing to the same crowd of fanboys night after night. seniority should be taken out of the mix so new people can get a chance to see them up close.

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  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    I don't have the time or inclination to read through this whole thread, so please forgive me if this has been covered.

    Seniority is good if for no other reason than it virtually eliminates scalping of the best seats.

    If the tickets were issued to 10-C members randomly, every scalper in the world would pay the $20 to join 10-C, and many (most?) of them would eat up the best tickets.

    They'd still have to deal with picking them up at will call and risking getting in trouble for selling them above face value, but so what? Worst case, they get kicked out of 10C and re-join a month later under a different e-mail address. I bet a lot of "real" fans would even scalp. Why not? You'd have nothing to lose, really.

    As it stands now, though, the people who have been in 10C long enough to accrue seniority and great tickets (ie, more than 10 years being in the club) are VERY likely to want to hang on to that, so there's VERY low odds that they'd risk the privilege by scalping premium tickets.
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  • InThinAir
    InThinAir Posts: 81
    What about all the people (like me) who have been members for a long time (I have #192xxx) and still haven't closer than row 20. We've been holding out hope that we're "next in line" for the really good seats. It'd be a bummer if they changed the policy before we got the chance to be front row or whatever. However the decision is up to the band and I respect everything that they do. I'm just happy that I'm a fan and am blessed enough to have seen them 15+ times.

    Just a thought they used to allow you to only get tix for one show, why not go back to that strategy and then let you fight it out with all the Ticketmaster rift raft if you want to go to multiple shows.
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  • Hinny
    Hinny Posts: 1,610
    InThinAir wrote:
    Just a thought they used to allow you to only get tix for one show, why not go back to that strategy and then let you fight it out with all the Ticketmaster rift raft if you want to go to multiple shows.
    Seniority is one thing. 10c tix at multiple shows just means the people who have the means are participate on a level playing field as all the others who want their pairs.
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  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    BUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

    hehe...I gotta fuel this crazy fire...its bringin out some closet nuts!

    And I refer to neither camp specifically....all in good fun...actually this is all pretty mellow compared to yesterdays frantic board.

    No non-seniority tickets scored by this dude by the way...bummer. Congrats to all who did. :)
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Kingmidget wrote:
    BUMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

    hehe...I gotta fuel this crazy fire...its bringin out some closet nuts!

    And I refer to neither camp specifically....all in good fun...actually this is all pretty mellow compared to yesterdays frantic board.

    No non-seniority tickets scored by this dude by the way...bummer. Congrats to all who did. :)


    i prefer to be referred to as a dreamer........;)
    it's a good discussion! at least it's a relevant topic! every time it comes up, i always throw my opinion in, a few times over :p....and my same ideas.....
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  • Kingmidget
    Kingmidget Posts: 628
    decides2dream wrote:
    i prefer to be referred to as a dreamer........;)
    it's a good discussion! at least it's a relevant topic! every time it comes up, i always throw my opinion in, a few times over :p....and my same ideas.....

    Hey whats this place for anyway? Sure can't vent to my friends, relatives about this stuff...I get one of those "looks"... ;)
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Kingmidget wrote:
    Hey whats this place for anyway? Sure can't vent to my friends, relatives about this stuff...I get one of those "looks"... ;)


    EXACTLY.
    if we can't feel free to discuss the minutiae of pearl jam here - private lives excluded, of course - where the hell else will we? :p
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  • Red Lukin
    Red Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    bump for senority going down!
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    InThinAir wrote:
    What about all the people (like me) who have been members for a long time (I have #192xxx) and still haven't closer than row 20. We've been holding out hope that we're "next in line" for the really good seats. It'd be a bummer if they changed the policy before we got the chance to be front row or whatever.

    i'm with you there. i have 145xxx, and i've been as close as row 10 (once, albany '03), but i still haven't made it to the "promised land" just yet.
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • lowlight10
    lowlight10 Posts: 619
    2 options:

    1. make the front row random, and do the rest by seniority.

    2. limit 10C tix to something reasonable, like 15% of the shows on a given tour. so out a full 30-show US tour, you can get tix to 5 shows via 10C.

    this is coming from someone with a low 100,xxx number who has been front row a couple times. but getting rid of seniority completely doesnt seem fair when it has been done this way for so long. plus getting rid of seniority is a huge green light for the scalpers to sign up and take their chances.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    i sat take the 1st 5rows of seats put them in a caged ring and then let people fight it out anything goes biting, kicking, slaming person to person,at every venue and hold the matches the day of the show that would rock .......:D then you would def see who the hardcore folks are ...
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