Been away for awhile, but what is this Showbox/Target talk?

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  • gibbits
    gibbits Posts: 522
    What the hell - my link doesn't have the new song on it at all - it's like it wasn't even checked before it was removed. hey does anyone here go to cnn.com?
  • JJ13769
    JJ13769 Posts: 10
    If this Target thing is true, which it sounds like it is. Does anybody think we will get some sort of explanation as to why. I dont shop at Target or any of those chains, I stay true to my beliefs, and if people change then they change including the band. It hurts, it sucks, but it is up to the band. I just hope we can hear why. Just for the record I am not changing!

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  • skyeriverwinter
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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    edited June 2009
    JJ13769 wrote:
    If this Target thing is true, which it sounds like it is. Does anybody think we will get some sort of explanation as to why. I dont shop at Target or any of those chains, I stay true to my beliefs, and if people change then they change including the band. It hurts, it sucks, but it is up to the band. I just hope we can hear why. Just for the record I am not changing!

    Peace

    Rocky: I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change!
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    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • YieldToNothing
    YieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    they don't really owe anyone anything. if they have a deal with target, cool. if not, also cool. i'm gonna buy the record from the website, i'll also download the leak as soon as its available to me. nobody's perfect.
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  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    ive been reading alot of things on the net about this band and the rumors of Target and a commercial..blah blah...dont worry moderators no links here, but i want to discuss why the band is taking such a hit for this and the stupid word of "sell out" is being used...didnt the band do similar commercial things with the last two albums? why such the outrage?

    who cares, we are getting a new album soon and i think we all need to get over the whole "Pearl Jam took on corporations in the past and look at them now"

    hope this doesnt get deleted they are also articles out there of the fan club being "silenced" even holding a discussion about any of this

    once again a reminder for everyone DO NOT post any links here just discuss why the band is taking such a hit
  • skyeriverwinter
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    nukeboot wrote:
    I realy doubt that Crowe would be directing a Target ad, but any
    further speculation might result in my bei

    A family member of mine acts in TV commercials that are directed by Josh Taft, who directed PJ's Alive video.
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  • CJMST3K
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    ...btw, did I read that two guys were able to buy the album at a certain retail outlet yesterday?
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  • Staceb10
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    pdalowsky wrote:
    this board has gone a bit bonkers today about all this, everything is getting locked down.

    I'm just a bit confused as to why.

    Its all over the internet so surely this would be the place to discuss these rumours? which is for now all they are.

    anyone who wants to start hating Pj for working with target really needs to go find a life. Shock horror muscians wanting to make money :shock: :shock:


    Yeah, how dare they promote themselves! anyone with a number below 181xxx that is now no longer a fan of PJ because they are corporate sellouts, please feel free to give me your number.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,397
    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...btw, did I read that two guys were able to buy the album at a certain retail outlet yesterday?
    Where'd you read that, out of curiosity? (If you're allowed to say..)
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  • U R A Crazy Breed
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    deserved untill shit is officially announced.


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  • mattcoz
    mattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,243
    I can understand it if they did the Target commercial. What probably happened was that Target approached Cameron about it, and he asked the guys to do it. I believe that they would do it if he asked them to. Now the exclusivity, I just can't see that being true.
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  • pdalowsky
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...btw, did I read that two guys were able to buy the album at a certain retail outlet yesterday?


    i doubt its true, but if it is, what a fuck up, those things will hit the bay and cost some stupid money
  • mattcoz
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...btw, did I read that two guys were able to buy the album at a certain retail outlet yesterday?
    Ha, no way that's true.
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Staceb10 wrote:
    pdalowsky wrote:
    this board has gone a bit bonkers today about all this, everything is getting locked down.

    I'm just a bit confused as to why.

    Its all over the internet so surely this would be the place to discuss these rumours? which is for now all they are.

    anyone who wants to start hating Pj for working with target really needs to go find a life. Shock horror muscians wanting to make money :shock: :shock:


    Yeah, how dare they promote themselves! anyone with a number below 181xxx that is now no longer a fan of PJ because they are corporate sellouts, please feel free to give me your number.


    I think that PJ only has themselves to blame for the fan "confusion" over their stance on advertisers.

    We ARE after all talking about a band who refused to play in an arena until a "Bud Light" sign was covered up. Or Ed bashing Jewel for aligning her song Intuition with a product of the same name... or not performing on Letterman that time unless the whole show was commercial-free (wow, was that overkill) or other similar anti-advertising, anti-corporate ideals.

    They're the ones who built themselves up, and were very vocal about it.

    I don't mind that Jewel sold her music to Schick (or whoever) but I appreciate what PJ did with their own music, frankly. PJ's music is not the same as Jewel's pop music.

    Now PJ wants to make more money, so I believe they HAVE compromised their principals to do so. I noticed at their VA Beach show that Bud Light was PJ's sponsor for the show, and most bands did not have a sponsor, yet PJ did. So it's extremely hard to say that PJ did not do a 1000000% turnaround on a number of things.

    Will I still listen and enjoy their music? Of course! But when I hear "green disease", I do laugh inside a bit.
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  • jmurray
    jmurray Stratham, NH Posts: 3,538
    Don't understand all the "sell-out" talk. Have some faith in the boys. If the exclusive rumors are true, I would guess they were able to negotiate things like more evironmentally friendly manufacturing and distribution. And if you don't agree I suggest giving up your 10C # because mine is pretty friggin high.
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  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...btw, did I read that two guys were able to buy the album at a certain retail outlet yesterday?

    I thought I read that too, but I don't know what the deal is around here. Shit is getting a little jumpy.
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