Radio host waterboarded live on air

NoK
NoK Posts: 824
edited September 2009 in A Moving Train
Sorry if this has been posted before but I was just reading it on the news over here in Australia so might be old news for you guys.. Have you seen this?

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/817187 ... ive-on-air

A conservative US radio host has allowed himself to be "waterboarded" live on air in a bid to prove to the controversial practice is not torture.

But the stunt backfired when Erich "Mancow" Muller lasted just six seconds of the treatment before raising the alarm and conceding it was indeed torture.

"It is way worse than I thought it would be," the Chicago radio man told his listeners on station WLS.

"I thought I could hold out 30 seconds … it was instantaneous.

"I don't want to say this, I do not wish to say this — absolutely torture."

Video footage of the experiment shows Muller lying on a table and a man placing a towel over the upper part of his face.

The man then blocks his nose and pours a jug of water over his face.

Muller lasts a few seconds before throwing the toy cow he was holding as an emergency signal.

The radio man said the experience felt exactly like he was drowning.

"When I was a kid I drowned," Muller said.

"My brother pulled me out of this pool I fell in and I had to be revived.

"I remember the feeling and it's the feeling of drowning."

"I wouldn't have done this if I had known it was going to be this bad."
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    That doesn't prove anything! He's just reliving childhood horrors, it's not really that bad :roll:

    When I saw this thread headline, I was thinking some kind of protest, and was ready to praise some radical dj...

    But since this guy is stupid enough to support it (or downplay the brutality of it anyway), maybe he should have had the balls to volunteer to be tied while doing it, and told them not to stop for the full 30 seconds? wonder what that would have looked like? at least he was forced to concede that he was wrong. what a loser.
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Drowned Out wrote:
    at least he was forced to concede that he was wrong. what a loser.

    This is what makes it so good.. now perhaps we should waterboard everyone who doesn't think its torture and see if they change their mind
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    I dont get it :? when it comes to protecting the rights of a terrorist, a person that would kill you and your family and not think twice about doing so you want to give these scumbags every right that every other american has,but when it comes down to the right of an unborn child (late term abortion ) s
    screw em what rights. Now that's torture. :x
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    water boarding. :roll: Give me a fuckin break I've been held down for longer than 45 sec surfing waves down in puerto Escondido and central America. you guys are a bunch of pussies. Sign me up
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I dont get it :? when it comes to protecting the rights of a terrorist, a person that would kill you and your family and not think twice about doing so you want to give these scumbags every right that every other american has,but when it comes down to the right of an unborn child (late term abortion ) s
    screw em what rights. Now that's torture. :x
    Two seperate issues.

    The problem is with waterboarding is it goes against everything America stands for. If the terrorists force us to abandon Freedom and Justice, then what do we really have as America? Who the hell are we to say other nations are doing bad by torturing.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    NoK wrote:
    Drowned Out wrote:
    at least he was forced to concede that he was wrong. what a loser.

    This is what makes it so good.. now perhaps we should waterboard everyone who doesn't think its torture and see if they change their mind
    Looks like we have a volunteer :roll: Anyone live near prftclefts? Just to be fair....we should start a pool and make it more fun. $1000 says he can't last 45 seconds. And I'll make a side bet - he still won't change his mind.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    the guy nearly drowned as a kid. of course he is going to have that reaction. what an idiot.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the guy nearly drowned as a kid. of course he is going to have that reaction. what an idiot.
    :lol:
    I already said that....sarcastically. do you think you'd react differently? Do we have another volunteer?
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    prfctlefts wrote:
    water boarding. :roll: Give me a fuckin break I've been held down for longer than 45 sec surfing waves down in puerto Escondido and central America. you guys are a bunch of pussies. Sign me up
    How it feels to be waterboarded is not really my fake area of expertise today, but i wouldn't imagine it would be terribly pleasant.

    Could you please at least youtube your attempt for me. I'd love to see it. Should be easy enough to do. Just get one of your buddies to video it, post it up and share.

    Mmmm k.

    Thanks.

    :mrgreen:
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited May 2009
    Lets make waterboard gambling a backyard/youtube sensation. Now THAT'S entertainment.

    edit: didn't see the link above before I posted :lol:....don't know if I want to watch this, but it's playin now :shock: :(

    edit 2- that about summed it up. imagine that happening to you if you didn't know the answers to the questions being asked....
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I watched this footage yesterday on Olbermann. What is striking about watching it, is how TAME it looks - when you think of torture, you think of pointy things, red hot brands, the rack, medieval stuff. This is just someone lying down (or being held down) with a wet cloth put on his face and water being poured. I think that is why its easy for people to blow it off and say they don't think its a big deal, unfortunately, if they haven't experienced it. Doesn't make it any less bad, but because the person isn't able to vocalize and you don't see a reaction of pain, there are people who won't be very empathetic unfortunately.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Haha Mancow Muller? Everyone in Chicago knows he is an idiot.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    JaneNY wrote:
    I watched this footage yesterday on Olbermann. What is striking about watching it, is how TAME it looks - when you think of torture, you think of pointy things, red hot brands, the rack, medieval stuff. This is just someone lying down (or being held down) with a wet cloth put on his face and water being poured. I think that is why its easy for people to blow it off and say they don't think its a big deal, unfortunately, if they haven't experienced it. Doesn't make it any less bad, but because the person isn't able to vocalize and you don't see a reaction of pain, there are people who won't be very empathetic unfortunately.
    Any moron can use force and violence, it takes a skilled hand to use the preception of violence to gain needed knowledge. :twisted:
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    This whole waterboarding thing is way overblown. It happened to three people, one of those being Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I'd stand in line to waterboard him myself.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    I think it's good that the radio host tried it and then was honest enough to admit that it WAS torture.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    JB811 wrote:
    This whole waterboarding thing is way overblown. It happened to three people,....

    I don't believe that for a second.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited May 2009
    JB811 wrote:
    This whole waterboarding thing is way overblown. It happened to three people, one of those being Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I'd stand in line to waterboard him myself.

    no shit... good to see sombody on this board has got some common sense.
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    keeponrockin wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    I dont get it :? when it comes to protecting the rights of a terrorist, a person that would kill you and your family and not think twice about doing so you want to give these scumbags every right that every other american has,but when it comes down to the right of an unborn child (late term abortion ) s
    screw em what rights. Now that's torture. :x
    Two seperate issues.

    The problem is with waterboarding is it goes against everything America stands for. If the terrorists force us to abandon Freedom and Justice, then what do we really have as America? Who the hell are we to say other nations are doing bad by torturing.

    so freakin what they're not even americans, they dont even qualify as humans as far as Im concerned. These are cold blooded killers they would cut your head off and not think twice about doing so. and you're worried about them being water boarded. you guys are freakin nuts. Some of you people are really strange :?
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Drowned Out wrote:
    JB811 wrote:
    This whole waterboarding thing is way overblown. It happened to three people,....

    I don't believe that for a second.

    why not ? That's what the memo's said oh excuse me that's what the Messiah said

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