LETS GO RED WINGS!!!!!

lukin2006 · July 2011

Stats don't always tell the whole story...he has more wins than Dryden, Parent, Cheevers, Hainsworth, Hasek and I'm sure more that I consider better. He's far down my list of goalies...I consider him good but not great!!!

MFCarissa · July 2011

81 wrote:

MFCarissa wrote:

Absolutely not. The standard is set far too high. Ozzie is no Sawchuk. If Shanahan and Fedorov can't get their numbers retired, Ozzie should not. I think only Lidstrom will.

i don't know....

GAA is virtually equal and Osgood has a better win %. i don't have Terry's save numbers.

Completely different eras. You can't just compare their stats. Sawchuk played in the time of those tiny brown pads, without a mask most of his career. It was a difficult time to be a goalie. And he won 4 Vezinas, 4 Stanley Cups, and had a shutout record that stood until Brodeur finally broke it just a couple years ago.

Jason P · July 2011

Kris Draper has hung up his skates, so time for another debate.

I'm not going to bring up his entry into the Hall of Fame, but do you think the Wings will consider hanging his Jersey. If you are only considering stats, then the answer is a clear no, but it wasn't Drapers stats that made his impact on the team. It was his leadership, work ethic, and integrity.

I say hang the banner. Thoughts?

MFCarissa · July 2011

Jason P wrote:

Kris Draper has hung up his skates, so time for another debate.

I'm not going to bring up his entry into the Hall of Fame, but do you think the Wings will consider hanging his Jersey. If you are only considering stats, then the answer is a clear no, but it wasn't Drapers stats that made his impact on the team. It was his leadership, work ethic, and integrity.

I say hang the banner. Thoughts?

Absolutely not. You can't go hanging up banners for everyone the fan base is emotionally attached to. Paint a mural of the Grind Line or something instead.

coachchris · July 2011

Sad to see Draper finally step away from the game. Great player and a great leader for the young guys like Eaves, Abdelkader.

As far as the debate with Ozzy is concerned, as a coach for 18yrs, all I care about is Save %. I've had goalies who would let a beach ball in if they had shots against but there GAA was below 2.5 because the team in front of them was strong. Save % doesn't lie....ever! And frankly, if my goalie has Osgoods save % I'd be looking high and low for a new one

In his "good years" he was about 91 save % and his latter years about 88%. That's far from NHL standards IMO. Since 1993 Dominik Hasek was never below 90%, neither has Brodeur, Patrick Roy was below 90% three times, but only once in his last 17 seasons

Not a banner hanger in my opinion but a goalie who made it work...

Lidstrom will be the only player currrently on the team to have his Jersey hanging from the rafters.

Not Pavel or Zetterberg. Both amazing but not even in the same category as Lidstrom or Yzerman.

MFCarissa · September 2011

R.I.P. former Red Wings assistant coach Brad McCrimmon, former defenseman Ruslan Salei, and every other victim of the KHL plane crash.

smarchee · September 2011

MFCarissa wrote:

R.I.P. former Red Wings assistant coach Brad McCrimmon, former defenseman Ruslan Salei, and every other victim of the KHL plane crash.

yes, what a sad thing to hear :(

Ruslan was a tough SOB, might have actually preferred him in Detroit instead of Erickson, but that is history

MFCarissa · September 2011

Datsyuk is wearing the number 24 at training camp to honor and remember his friend and teammate Ruslan Salei.

Chief Broom · September 2011

MFCarissa wrote:

Datsyuk is wearing the number 24 at training camp to honor and remember his friend and teammate Ruslan Salei.

Good form Pavel! Dude is classy as they come.

lukin2006 · September 2011

coachchris wrote:

Sad to see Draper finally step away from the game. Great player and a great leader for the young guys like Eaves, Abdelkader.

As far as the debate with Ozzy is concerned, as a coach for 18yrs, all I care about is Save %. I've had goalies who would let a beach ball in if they had shots against but there GAA was below 2.5 because the team in front of them was strong. Save % doesn't lie....ever! And frankly, if my goalie has Osgoods save % I'd be looking high and low for a new one

In his "good years" he was about 91 save % and his latter years about 88%. That's far from NHL standards IMO. Since 1993 Dominik Hasek was never below 90%, neither has Brodeur, Patrick Roy was below 90% three times, but only once in his last 17 seasons

Not a banner hanger in my opinion but a goalie who made it work...

Lidstrom will be the only player currrently on the team to have his Jersey hanging from the rafters. Not Pavel or Zetterberg. Both amazing but not even in the same category as Lidstrom or Yzerman.

Good post!!!!

lukin2006 · September 2011

Classy move move by Pavel...with that being said #24 should never have been worn after Probert wore it and certainly not after Chelios. #24 should now be retired...not hung from the rafters retired...just never allowed to be worn by anyone again...

Chief Broom · September 2011

lukin2006 wrote:

Classy move move by Pavel...with that being said #24 should never have been worn after Probert wore it and certainly not after Chelios. #24 should now be retired...not hung from the rafters retired...just never allowed to be worn by anyone again...

Also agreed!