So when will the US dates be announced??

zootown

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I, for one, am not impressed.

A FIVE DAY tour of Europe?! FOUR SHOWS!!! OMG!!!

BIG deal.

This band is starting to piss me off.

1. They never tour anymore! They haven't done a REAL TOUR since 2006. In 2007 they were off the whole year and played the Vic and Lolla...WOW. In 2008 they did a MONTH. That's nothing! Even in 2006, it was supposed to be their biggest tour but 2003 was way more shows.

2. They have TONS of money folks! And yet they continue to milk us with this rerelease nonsense, a seemingly never-ending bevy of over-priced hoodies, t-shirts and posters...not to mention this Guitar Hero stuff is pretty stupid, if that's not selling out what is?

3. The self titled is easily their worst album. The last good record was either Binaural or Riot Act...that's 7-9 years ago!

4. Taking away our beloved message pit and charging to post?! Just such a bogus move it's ridiculous!

Before anyone responds, understand this: I LOVEDDDDD this band like you don't even know for many years. I stuck up for them for a LONG time. I never thought I'd be sitting here saying this one day but DAMN...how much can you take, how much shit can they pull before it's like, "wait a minute here, what's going on?" They are not the same band as they were even as recently as 3 years ago. I feel like they have strayed from the ideals that made me like them so much in the first place.

Really? Not trying to be a jerk, but you sound mighty young and naive with posts like this. Pearl Jam is not immortal, and to have a band consisting of mid 40's fathers who still tour at all is amazing! This band has been around longer than you have likely been alive, so keep your negative gripes to yourself, and if you are considering no longer being a fan, than dont let the door hit you on the way out!!! :evil:


P.S. one last thing, for all your griping about them not doing enough, have you forgotten how busy Eddie has been in the past 2 years!??? The man seems to have fucking cloned himself he is involved in so many projects!

youngster

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I, for one, am not impressed.

A FIVE DAY tour of Europe?! FOUR SHOWS!!! OMG!!!

BIG deal.

This band is starting to piss me off.

1. They never tour anymore! They haven't done a REAL TOUR since 2006. In 2007 they were off the whole year and played the Vic and Lolla...WOW. In 2008 they did a MONTH. That's nothing! Even in 2006, it was supposed to be their biggest tour but 2003 was way more shows.

2. They have TONS of money folks! And yet they continue to milk us with this rerelease nonsense, a seemingly never-ending bevy of over-priced hoodies, t-shirts and posters...not to mention this Guitar Hero stuff is pretty stupid, if that's not selling out what is?

3. The self titled is easily their worst album. The last good record was either Binaural or Riot Act...that's 7-9 years ago!

4. Taking away our beloved message pit and charging to post?! Just such a bogus move it's ridiculous!

Before anyone responds, understand this: I LOVEDDDDD this band like you don't even know for many years. I stuck up for them for a LONG time. I never thought I'd be sitting here saying this one day but DAMN...how much can you take, how much shit can they pull before it's like, "wait a minute here, what's going on?" They are not the same band as they were even as recently as 3 years ago. I feel like they have strayed from the ideals that made me like them so much in the first place.

Their last "real" tour was 2006 because it was promoting an album, their last album. Most bands don't tour worldwide when they are not promoting an album. PJ makes an effort and do a DAMN good job of getting out there and playing in front of fans. When they release their next album, expect a world tour. Until then, sit tight.

justam

a5pj wrote:

blondieblue227 wrote:

……thinking of a yummy medley to stuff the bird with. Finger licking good!

good! then the sea turtle Backspacer can start bringing the news, I like him better anyway, not as noisy.

I think Backspacer is a She not a He.

Music For Rhinos

zootown wrote:

Really? Not trying to be a jerk, but you sound mighty young and naive with posts like this. Pearl Jam is not immortal, and to have a band consisting of mid 40's fathers who still tour at all is amazing! This band has been around longer than you have likely been alive, so keep your negative gripes to yourself, and if you are considering no longer being a fan, than dont let the door hit you on the way out!!! :evil:


P.S. one last thing, for all your griping about them not doing enough, have you forgotten how busy Eddie has been in the past 2 years!??? The man seems to have fucking cloned himself he is involved in so many projects!

First of all, I am 22. That's older than the band has been around.

Second, all you addressed was the touring issue.

What about the fact that they took away the message pit and now charge to post? That is ridiculous. And how they are much more merchandise-oriented these days. I thought it was supposed to be about the music. Don't call me negative and naive. I loved this band as much as or more than anyone on here.

KingJeremyD

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I, for one, am not impressed.

A FIVE DAY tour of Europe?! FOUR SHOWS!!! OMG!!!

BIG deal.

This band is starting to piss me off.

1. They never tour anymore! They haven't done a REAL TOUR since 2006. In 2007 they were off the whole year and played the Vic and Lolla...WOW. In 2008 they did a MONTH. That's nothing! Even in 2006, it was supposed to be their biggest tour but 2003 was way more shows.

2. They have TONS of money folks! And yet they continue to milk us with this rerelease nonsense, a seemingly never-ending bevy of over-priced hoodies, t-shirts and posters...not to mention this Guitar Hero stuff is pretty stupid, if that's not selling out what is?

3. The self titled is easily their worst album. The last good record was either Binaural or Riot Act...that's 7-9 years ago!


I totally agree with you...All they are concerned about now is the next big paycheck..The ten club is a joke...Pearl Jam the band itself is headed down the same path as ten club..

4. Taking away our beloved message pit and charging to post?! Just such a bogus move it's ridiculous!

Before anyone responds, understand this: I LOVEDDDDD this band like you don't even know for many years. I stuck up for them for a LONG time. I never thought I'd be sitting here saying this one day but DAMN...how much can you take, how much shit can they pull before it's like, "wait a minute here, what's going on?" They are not the same band as they were even as recently as 3 years ago. I feel like they have strayed from the ideals that made me like them so much in the first place.

Music For Rhinos

cropduster82 wrote:

Their last "real" tour was 2006 because it was promoting an album, their last album. Most bands don't tour worldwide when they are not promoting an album. PJ makes an effort and do a DAMN good job of getting out there and playing in front of fans. When they release their next album, expect a world tour. Until then, sit tight.

okay, fair enough. what about my other points though? funny how no one has anything to say about that.

KingJeremyD

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I, for one, am not impressed.

A FIVE DAY tour of Europe?! FOUR SHOWS!!! OMG!!!

BIG deal.

This band is starting to piss me off.

1. They never tour anymore! They haven't done a REAL TOUR since 2006. In 2007 they were off the whole year and played the Vic and Lolla...WOW. In 2008 they did a MONTH. That's nothing! Even in 2006, it was supposed to be their biggest tour but 2003 was way more shows.

2. They have TONS of money folks! And yet they continue to milk us with this rerelease nonsense, a seemingly never-ending bevy of over-priced hoodies, t-shirts and posters...not to mention this Guitar Hero stuff is pretty stupid, if that's not selling out what is?

3. The self titled is easily their worst album. The last good record was either Binaural or Riot Act...that's 7-9 years ago!

4. Taking away our beloved message pit and charging to post?! Just such a bogus move it's ridiculous!

Before anyone responds, understand this: I LOVEDDDDD this band like you don't even know for many years. I stuck up for them for a LONG time. I never thought I'd be sitting here saying this one day but DAMN...how much can you take, how much shit can they pull before it's like, "wait a minute here, what's going on?" They are not the same band as they were even as recently as 3 years ago. I feel like they have strayed from the ideals that made me like them so much in the first place.

I totally agree with you...Then band is only concerned about the next big paycheck..Plus, us helping them support their fav causes...The ten club is a joke...Pearl jam doesn't give a shit about the fans anymore...If so?..Show some love to the fans...

KingJeremyD

Don't give me this family excuse either...They choice this career...Family should be first I totally agree with that...If they don't want tour that much?..Well that is their choice...But, don't expect the fans to bend over backwards for them to support them..

Jeremy

Wilds

Musicforrhinos,

1. They tour when they promote an album.

2. Buy stuff if you want. No one is forcing you to shell out any money. You can't be milked if you don't allow it.

3. Liking or disliking an album is very subjective. Some love S/T, some hate it. I guess you hate it, but I think you are in the minority on this.

4. I don't love the choice to have the Message pit be for members only, but if they wanted to clean it up, then mission accomplished. I liked it better the old way, but really this is a small issue. Who really gives a shit. It's a message board. There are 1000's of them, and at least a hand full out there dedicated to Pearl Jam.

If this band and this hobby makes you so crazy. Get the "flock" out of here. You won't be missed at all. I don't mean to be negative, but I have been inspired by you.

This band makes me happy. I love how much they tour. Any more and I would be broke. I've been to an Eddie Show or a Pearl Jam show in 03, 05, 06 X 10, 07 X1, 08 X4, and plan to go to a few this year. I call that being spoiled. They tour a lot.

If they make you mad and pissed off, then it's time to move along.


Unless you are some type of masochist?

Wilds

KingJeremy wrote:

Don't give me this family excuse either...They choice this career...Family should be first I totally agree with that...If they don't want tour that much?..Well that is their choice...But, don't expect the fans to bend over backwards for them to support them..

Jeremy

And while I'm on this angry rant I might as well address the angriest of them all.


Jeremy,

It seems obvious that you despise this band. Please go away and pursue something that makes you happy.

Your anger and negativity is truly disgusting to witness.

KingJeremyD

Wilds wrote:

Musicforrhinos,

1. They tour when they promote an album.

2. Buy stuff if you want. No one is forcing you to shell out any money. You can't be milked if you don't allow it.

3. Liking or disliking an album is very subjective. Some love S/T, some hate it. I guess you hate it, but I think you are in the minority on this.

4. I don't love the choice to have the Message pit be for members only, but if they wanted to clean it up, then mission accomplished. I liked it better the old way, but really this is a small issue. Who really gives a shit. It's a message board. There are 1000's of them, and at least a hand full out there dedicated to Pearl Jam.

If this band and this hobby makes you so crazy. Get the "flock" out of here. You won't be missed at all. I don't mean to be negative, but I have been inspired by you.

This band makes me happy. I love how much they tour. Any more and I would be broke. I've been to an Eddie Show or a Pearl Jam show in 03, 05, 06 X 10, 07 X1, 08 X4, and plan to go to a few this year. I call that being spoiled. They tour a lot.

If they make you mad and pissed off, then it's time to move along.


Unless you are some type of masochist?

So not giving a shit about the fans is ok...That is all the band preached for the longest time...Now it is all about the money...

Wilds

KingJeremy wrote:

Wilds wrote:

Musicforrhinos,

1. They tour when they promote an album.

2. Buy stuff if you want. No one is forcing you to shell out any money. You can't be milked if you don't allow it.

3. Liking or disliking an album is very subjective. Some love S/T, some hate it. I guess you hate it, but I think you are in the minority on this.

4. I don't love the choice to have the Message pit be for members only, but if they wanted to clean it up, then mission accomplished. I liked it better the old way, but really this is a small issue. Who really gives a shit. It's a message board. There are 1000's of them, and at least a hand full out there dedicated to Pearl Jam.

If this band and this hobby makes you so crazy. Get the "flock" out of here. You won't be missed at all. I don't mean to be negative, but I have been inspired by you.

This band makes me happy. I love how much they tour. Any more and I would be broke. I've been to an Eddie Show or a Pearl Jam show in 03, 05, 06 X 10, 07 X1, 08 X4, and plan to go to a few this year. I call that being spoiled. They tour a lot.

If they make you mad and pissed off, then it's time to move along.


Unless you are some type of masochist?

So not giving a shit about the fans is ok...That is all the band preached for the longest time...Now it is all about the money...

Says you. They did the free Vic show, they did a free show in Hollywood. They put out merchandise and specialty items cause the fans beg for it.

They charge $20.00 for a fan club. That is ridiculously low for what we get IMO.

They donate time and money like no other band I know. Be it the bridge school, Tsunami event, Raising money for David Lynch, raising money for surfriders, turtles etc. etc.

They put on 3 hour shows, and as far as I can tell charge less than other acts of their size and scope.

That all sounds good to me. I'm very happy with the band and what they stand for.

Jeanwah

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I, for one, am not impressed.

A FIVE DAY tour of Europe?! FOUR SHOWS!!! OMG!!!

BIG deal.

This band is starting to piss me off.

Then stop listening.

KingJeremyD

Wilds wrote:

KingJeremy wrote:

Wilds wrote:

Musicforrhinos,

1. They tour when they promote an album.

2. Buy stuff if you want. No one is forcing you to shell out any money. You can't be milked if you don't allow it.

3. Liking or disliking an album is very subjective. Some love S/T, some hate it. I guess you hate it, but I think you are in the minority on this.

4. I don't love the choice to have the Message pit be for members only, but if they wanted to clean it up, then mission accomplished. I liked it better the old way, but really this is a small issue. Who really gives a shit. It's a message board. There are 1000's of them, and at least a hand full out there dedicated to Pearl Jam.

If this band and this hobby makes you so crazy. Get the "flock" out of here. You won't be missed at all. I don't mean to be negative, but I have been inspired by you.

This band makes me happy. I love how much they tour. Any more and I would be broke. I've been to an Eddie Show or a Pearl Jam show in 03, 05, 06 X 10, 07 X1, 08 X4, and plan to go to a few this year. I call that being spoiled. They tour a lot.

If they make you mad and pissed off, then it's time to move along.


Unless you are some type of masochist?

So not giving a shit about the fans is ok...That is all the band preached for the longest time...Now it is all about the money...

Says you. They did the free Vic show, they did a free show in Hollywood. They put out merchandise and specialty items cause the fans beg for it.

They charge $20.00 for a fan club. That is ridiculously low for what we get IMO.

They donate time and money like no other band I know. Be it the bridge school, Tsunami event, Raising money for David Lynch, raising money for surfriders, turtles etc. etc.

They put on 3 hour shows, and as far as I can tell charge less than other acts of their size and scope.

Pretty good to this fan. I probably just have a rational perspective about life in general and this hobby specifically, too much to ask of the angry man.

Keep on drinking the pearl jam kool aid...They are great band and put on a kickass show...But, they are still about the money these days...I'm finished posting on this board...Hope that makes you happy..Plus, I am done gonig out of my way to help anyone that is pearl jam fan...I shouldn't be that way...But, that is how it is going to be now...I will buy pearl jam's albums but I am not going to attend many shows..Only if they are near me..

jeremy

Wilds

KingJeremy wrote:

Keep on drinking the pearl jam kool aid...They are great band and put on a kickass show...But, they are still about the money these days...I'm finished posting on this board...Hope that makes you happy..Plus, I am done gonig out of my way to help anyone that is pearl jam fan...I shouldn't be that way...But, that is how it is going to be now...I will buy pearl jam's albums but I am not going to attend many shows..Only if they are near me..

jeremy

jeremy

No cool aid here. I realize they make a lot of money, but I'm intelligent enough to realize they now support a huge company of people. And I'm fine with that.

This is not about 5 guys making endless cash. They support the lives and families of everyone from the roadies to the Ten club staff.

They no longer live on their friends couches.

So what?

This is reason to post negative, angry, whining, ignorant rubbish all the time?

Please.

EDIT:

Great. Go be negative elsewhere.

Thank you!

justam

Don't waste time arguing about this guys. PJ is going to do what they want to do for whatever reasons they want to do it and you can either buy tickets and merchandise or NOT.

They are selling products so they can continue to earn lots of money. They also like to make good music. Thank goodness for that. They still work hard to put on good concerts. Thank heavens for that.

They could be riding an old broken-down horse, but they try to keep their vehicle in excellent repair instead.

Music For Rhinos

Wilds wrote:

Musicforrhinos,

1. They tour when they promote an album.

2. Buy stuff if you want. No one is forcing you to shell out any money. You can't be milked if you don't allow it.

3. Liking or disliking an album is very subjective. Some love S/T, some hate it. I guess you hate it, but I think you are in the minority on this.

4. I don't love the choice to have the Message pit be for members only, but if they wanted to clean it up, then mission accomplished. I liked it better the old way, but really this is a small issue. Who really gives a shit. It's a message board. There are 1000's of them, and at least a hand full out there dedicated to Pearl Jam.

If this band and this hobby makes you so crazy. Get the "flock" out of here. You won't be missed at all. I don't mean to be negative, but I have been inspired by you.

This band makes me happy. I love how much they tour. Any more and I would be broke. I've been to an Eddie Show or a Pearl Jam show in 03, 05, 06 X 10, 07 X1, 08 X4, and plan to go to a few this year. I call that being spoiled. They tour a lot.

If they make you mad and pissed off, then it's time to move along.


Unless you are some type of masochist?

1. Yes, I am aware of that. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

2. That is not the point. The point is that the greed of the band is apparent by the fact that they're making all of this merchandise available. They just want our money.

3. I didn't say I hated it. I said it was their worst album. I like some songs on it. It is still their weakest effort.

4. You're in the minority on this one. A lot of people were pretty mad and disappointed about this. It's pretty shitty to take away a free board and replace it with one that isn't free.

Get the "flock" out of here? Haha. What the hell does that mean? I inspired you? Okay. You're a strange one.

Vedder_Girl77

How many shows in the USA do you expect them to play?

I'm guessing they will tour from the August 28 SF festival through the October Austin festival...hopefully beyond that...

It seems like most of you think an annoucement will be made sometime in early May which I agree sounds about right since they will have to wait until the pre-sale for the European shows is over.

I really hope I can get to at least one Pearl Jam show this year!

Music For Rhinos

Jeanwah wrote:

Music For Rhinos wrote:

I, for one, am not impressed.

A FIVE DAY tour of Europe?! FOUR SHOWS!!! OMG!!!

BIG deal.

This band is starting to piss me off.

Then stop listening.

I'll listen if I want.

norm

Vedder_Girl77 wrote:

I'm guessing they will tour from the August 28 SF festival through the October Austin festival...hopefully beyond that...

your guess is correct