Teabagging Parties....

ledvedderman

prfctlefts wrote:

Kenny O wrote:

I'm watching Fox News right now. This shit is RIDICULOUS. They're like a a bunch of children.

All of it instigated by the web of corporate talk show hosts too. What are they up to?

Please tell me what's so ridiculous about wanting lower Taxes and smaller govt ? Liberals never cease to amaze me. All of you are always standing up for dissent and freedom of speech until it's something you disagree with :roll: Now thats what is ridiculous.

I'f I'm not mistaken, didn't the President just sign on on the largest tax cut in the nations history? If smaller government is the problem, why didn't these "patriots" stand up and protest the Bush administration doing the biggest increase in the size of government since the new deal?

soulsinging

Phool wrote:

The TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Parties mean different things to different people but basically it is a large mass of people who are fed up with the how the past two administrations have been throwing money away. They are non partisan. It was started by a house mom in Washington..not the GOP...the Parties are saying democrat’s suck and republicans suck.

Like hell they are.

kenny olav

prfctlefts wrote:

Kenny O wrote:

I'm watching Fox News right now. This shit is RIDICULOUS. They're like a a bunch of children.

All of it instigated by the web of corporate talk show hosts too. What are they up to?

Please tell me what's so ridiculous about wanting lower Taxes and smaller govt ? Liberals never cease to amaze me. All of you are always standing up for dissent and freedom of speech until it's something you disagree with :roll: Now thats what is ridiculous.

Believe me, I'm all for maniacs gathering together and making asses of themselves. It's entertaining.

I'm sorry but it sounds like they are whining about things they don't understand. They're just repeating a lot of the same babble they here on the radio shows that gave them the directions to get to these rallies. I listen to 96.9, the mostly conservative talk station here in Boston quite a bit, and it's been the same old shtick for years... fear-mongering, basically.

There was no reason for you to assume that I don't think they have the right to have these rallies. But talk show hosts keep saying that liberals think this way, so I guess it must be true. :roll:

kenny olav

All that said, I have some sympathies with some of the concerns being brought up within all of this rabble. The government is without a doubt over-reaching and irresponsible. But why have a huge rally at the Alamo?? Why confuse the issue? Just to attract anti-immigrant zealots who also think Obama is a socialist?

Honestly, I think the media is just putting on a show for us. Who organized all of this, really?

kenny olav

Glen Beck and Ted Nugent are at the Alamo right now on CNN (repeat from earlier).

If this shit isn't ridiculous, WHAT IS?

kenny olav

The Nuge just said all of these thousands of people showed up because "they are addicted to logic".


Ted Nugent, Ambassador of Logic!

jlew24asu

Phool wrote:

It gives clever people like you the ability to call them "teabagging"

lol so true.

jlew24asu

ledvedderman wrote:

I'f I'm not mistaken, didn't the President just sign on on the largest tax cut in the nations history? If smaller government is the problem, why didn't these "patriots" stand up and protest the Bush administration doing the biggest increase in the size of government since the new deal?

is that really true? (serious question)

inmytree

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

I'f I'm not mistaken, didn't the President just sign on on the largest tax cut in the nations history? If smaller government is the problem, why didn't these "patriots" stand up and protest the Bush administration doing the biggest increase in the size of government since the new deal?

is that really true? (serious question)

not sure if it's biggest tax cut in history, but my household is bringing in an extra 100 bucks a month (based on last months paystubs)...

I'd be willing to bet, many of these teabaggers (he he he ) had there taxes cut as well....

jlew24asu

inmytree wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

I'f I'm not mistaken, didn't the President just sign on on the largest tax cut in the nations history? If smaller government is the problem, why didn't these "patriots" stand up and protest the Bush administration doing the biggest increase in the size of government since the new deal?

is that really true? (serious question)

not sure if it's biggest tax cut in history, but my household is bringing in an extra 100 bucks a month (based on last months paystubs)...

I'd be willing to bet, many of these teabaggers (he he he ) had there taxes cut as well....

eh, mine have gone up but my mom recently lost her job and has extended benefits and a huge cut in her cobra payment. which is nice.

I thought most are getting around $20 bucks extra per paycheck

inmytree

jlew24asu wrote:

eh, mine have gone up but my mom recently lost her job and has extended benefits and a huge cut in her cobra payment. which is nice.

I thought most are getting around $20 bucks extra per paycheck

I'm getting $50 and so is my other half is getting about $50...I was surprised because like you, I thought the tax cut would be about 15 to 20 a month...

acoustic guy

I am pretty shocked that you people are making jokes about something so serious.
Many people at these tea parties voted for Obama but they did not really know what they were voting for until now.
"lets vote for Obama! He's black, he's cool, he's young, and he seems really down to earth!" :roll:

inmytree

acoustic guy wrote:

I am pretty shocked that you people are making jokes about something so serious.
Many people at these tea parties voted for Obama but they did not really know what they were voting for until now.
"lets vote for Obama! He's black, he's cool, he's young, and he seems really down to earth!" :roll:

you're making things up...just like the teabaggers....

"Many people at these tea parties voted for Obama but they did not really know what they were voting for until now. "....

jlew24asu

there is definitely some truth in what AG said. some voted for Obama for NO other reason then he was black and he wasn't a republican. his policies meant absolutely nothing.

VINNY GOOMBA

These events are whatever you want them to be. They've been going on for years. This year though FOXNEWS has taken the ball and run with it quite a bit, and yes there are tons of people who attend these things that are in complete denial that Bush put is in debt more than any other president EVER.

However, before it all got mainstream attention, the majority of these tea party type events on 4/15 focused on the SCAM that is the IRS. What better day to call attention to it than the day that millions of us were begrudgingly mailing out that check?

Like them or not, get used to them... I don't think they're going to stop anytime soon. And why the hell not get on the bandwagon? I was at one of them yesterday and had tons of people asking me about the signs I was holding up, which were focused on The Federal Reserve and the expanding police state, and not "OBAMA SUX LOL!!!!111 WHUURR'S MY BAILOUT???" To me, this is a great opportunity to unite the people of this country against our greatest enemy: tyranny, over-spending, and over-taxation as a result. Calling out Obama and calling out Bush only creates division. They're all to blame.

Here's the other thing I like about this movement (actually, I don't necessarily like it, but I like its effectiveness): these people participating don't appear to be very "radical," and therefore will be taken more seriously than hardcore hippies. Sad but true-- even if their numbers are less, the crowds that show up to these things are pretty diverse all the way across the board from age to race, from hippy-type to suits and are more likely to be heard.

Bring YOUR solutions on flyers and pamphlets to the next one. Make signs, ask to speak at the podium if they have one. Tune out the "FOX FACTOR" if you don't like it... It's not as heavy as the TV would have you believe, especially when FOX is doing the coverage. Of course they want to take credit for it, they want to increase their ratings-- who doesn't want to see themselves on TV at these things? Fuck Fox. Let YOUR voice be heard.

inmytree

jlew24asu wrote:

there is definitely some truth in what AG said. some voted for Obama for NO other reason then he was black and he wasn't a republican. his policies meant absolutely nothing.

some...not many...and I'd be willing to bet my teabag that less that .002% of teabaggers voted for Obama...most of these folks are Ron Paul supporters, libertarians and America Haters (<---- )

Sludge Factory

inmytree wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

there is definitely some truth in what AG said. some voted for Obama for NO other reason then he was black and he wasn't a republican. his policies meant absolutely nothing.

some...not many...and I'd be willing to bet my teabag that less that .002% of teabaggers voted for Obama...most of these folks are Ron Paul supporters, libertarians and America Haters (<---- )

Well, if that's the case, that refutes ledvedderman's point about how most of them had no problem with Bush and his policies. From my understanding most folks who are Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, and America Haters also hated Bush and his policies.

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

there is definitely some truth in what AG said. some voted for Obama for NO other reason then he was black and he wasn't a republican. his policies meant absolutely nothing.

Sure some did, just like some voted for Bush for no other reason than he was a Christian like them and he wasn't a democrat. The point he was making, and it is correct, is that the people you mention there were not at the teabag parties.

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

there is definitely some truth in what AG said. some voted for Obama for NO other reason then he was black and he wasn't a republican. his policies meant absolutely nothing.

Sure some did, just like some voted for Bush for no other reason than he was a Christian like them and he wasn't a democrat. The point he was making, and it is correct, is that the people you mention there were not at the teabag parties.

yea I know, I wasn't disputing that. I guess I was just making an irrelevant point :oops:

evenflow

inmytree wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

I'f I'm not mistaken, didn't the President just sign on on the largest tax cut in the nations history? If smaller government is the problem, why didn't these "patriots" stand up and protest the Bush administration doing the biggest increase in the size of government since the new deal?

is that really true? (serious question)

not sure if it's biggest tax cut in history, but my household is bringing in an extra 100 bucks a month (based on last months paystubs)...

I'd be willing to bet, many of these teabaggers (he he he ) had there taxes cut as well....

From the people that I've talked to who went to the one here, their major concern is the 2-ton elephant in the corner that is government spending. Yes, we as a country did go into a deficit under G.W., but if all of the trillions of dollars that obama is trying to push through as "bailouts" goes through he will have put us 8 times deeper debt in 100 or so days in office than Bush did in his entire 8 years! And where is all this magic money coming from? Taxes of course, but somehow Obama's lowering them. It doesn't add up at all. Not to mention, all of these bailouts have done nothing to help the situation. Every time one is announced, it seems to drive the economy lower. Why, you ask? Because the financial experts (the people who really understand how the economy works) know that each time one is proposed it just brings us a step closer to complete financial ruin.