I think it might be time to start the 2010 thread cause there is no team left to call the 2009 NY Mets.
This 2009 nightmare of a season will never ever end. So now there is strong speculation that Reyes will undergo surgery in the near future..if it's the case, why the fuck would they wait so long?? We all knew the little wimp wouldn't be back this season, so why wait and jeopardize his chances of full recovery by next season? Morons..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
I think it might be time to start the 2010 thread cause there is no team left to call the 2009 NY Mets.
This 2009 nightmare of a season will never ever end. So now there is strong speculation that Reyes will undergo surgery in the near future..if it's the case, why the fuck would they wait so long?? We all knew the little wimp wouldn't be back this season, so why wait and jeopardize his chances of full recovery by next season? Morons..
It blows me away that they could have waited this long if it was such a real option. The whole way the team is managed is absolutely impossible to understand.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
I think it might be time to start the 2010 thread cause there is no team left to call the 2009 NY Mets.
This 2009 nightmare of a season will never ever end. So now there is strong speculation that Reyes will undergo surgery in the near future..if it's the case, why the fuck would they wait so long?? We all knew the little wimp wouldn't be back this season, so why wait and jeopardize his chances of full recovery by next season? Morons..
i hope he's out for all of next season too. he's all hype, just like every other prospect the mets have had in the past 20 years.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i hope he's out for all of next season too. he's all hype, just like every other prospect the mets have had in the past 20 years.
Even if you think Reyes is all hype (and personally I don't), there's no way you can really believe the Mets are better w/out him than with him playing. The guy may not be the best in the game, but he certainly is a giant step up from whatever we have now or any other options that might be out there, and he is still one of the top 10 shorts stops (and I would argue higher) in the game right now.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
Even if you think Reyes is all hype (and personally I don't), there's no way you can really believe the Mets are better w/out him than with him playing. The guy may not be the best in the game, but he certainly is a giant step up from whatever we have now or any other options that might be out there, and he is still one of the top 10 shorts stops (and I would argue higher) in the game right now.
i just don't like him. he's always getting hurt and his attitude sucks to the game. he's got all the tools in the world but doesn't have that killer instinct like a j-roll or jeter does. he's a great player and thats all he will ever be. reyes is in my top 10 ss.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
1B Delgado (Hip)
2B Castillo (sprained ankle)
3B Wright (PCS)
SS Reyes (Knee, calf, etc.)
OF Sheffield (Strained right hamstring)
OF Beltran (Bone Bruise knee)
OF Francoeur (torn ligament in thumb)
C Schneider (Strained back muscle)
UTIL Ramon Martinez (fractured left pinkie)
OF Angel Pagan( x2, right elbow surgery, strained groin)
OF Fernando Martinez ( right knee inflammation)
UTIL Cora (Thumb)
OF Church (Strained right hamstring)
SP Santana (Elbow soreness)
SP Oliver Perez (Right patellar tendinitis)
SP Maine (weak shoulder)
SP Niese (Torn Hamstring)
SP Pelfrey (forearm tendinitis)
LR Redding (arm fatigue)
LR Nieve (Torn right Quadriceps)
SU Wagner
SU Putz (bone spurs)
CL K-Rod back spasms
Is the money situation so tight that they can't afford a strength and conditioning coach? I mean, WTF?? :shock:
If I had known then what I know now...
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Even if you think Reyes is all hype (and personally I don't), there's no way you can really believe the Mets are better w/out him than with him playing. The guy may not be the best in the game, but he certainly is a giant step up from whatever we have now or any other options that might be out there, and he is still one of the top 10 shorts stops (and I would argue higher) in the game right now.
i just don't like him. he's always getting hurt and his attitude sucks to the game. he's got all the tools in the world but doesn't have that killer instinct like a j-roll or jeter does. he's a great player and thats all he will ever be. reyes is in my top 10 ss.
Fair enough. I'm also very disappointed w/Reyes, because it's true, he's got so much potential, but it's all going to waste.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
I think it might be time to start the 2010 thread cause there is no team left to call the 2009 NY Mets.
This 2009 nightmare of a season will never ever end. So now there is strong speculation that Reyes will undergo surgery in the near future..if it's the case, why the fuck would they wait so long?? We all knew the little wimp wouldn't be back this season, so why wait and jeopardize his chances of full recovery by next season? Morons..
i hope he's out for all of next season too. he's all hype, just like every other prospect the mets have had in the past 20 years.
I think on the fan they said that the Mets won like 60 games last year when Reyes scored a run..I don't like the guy either, but he is good when healthy..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
I don't think I've ever seen a team play as shitty as the Cubs did Friday afternoon and still win..Bradley and Soriano are scary bad out there..wow..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
September arrives this week and something feels different on the local baseball scene.
No New York Mets.
The Phillies entered the last two Septembers chasing their neighbors to the north, but this year the Mets are an afterthought in the National League East. The Phillies have a comfortable lead in the division, and barring what would be an embarrassing collapse, should win it for the third year in a row.
Have to be honest here: We miss the Mets.
Baseball came alive again in Philadelphia in 2007 and the Mets, who blew a late, seven-game lead, had a lot to do with it. The drama, excitement and entertainment value created by the Phillies' late surge that season was heightened by the Mets' misery. It's always fun for a team when its fiercest rival becomes its foil, and that's what happened for the Phillies the last two Septembers.
The fun continued last week in New York, when the Phils took three of four from the fourth-place Mets. It wasn't so much that the Phils won the series. It was how they won it: with Mets castoff Pedro Martinez on the mound; with the Mets hitting into a game-ending triple play; with Cliff Lee, a man who will have an impact on the division beyond this season, showing what a force he is on Monday afternoon.
During one of the inning breaks in that game, the Mets did one of those fan-interactive contests on the stadium video board. As one fan spoke on the video board, a handful of other fans could be seen in the background wearing paper bags on their heads.
The Phils and Mets play three more times this month, and that's it for the rivalry - until Jimmy Rollins or Carlos Beltran stirs something up in spring training. But, given the way things have gone for the Mets this season, one has to wonder how much of a factor they will be in the division in 2010.
After getting iced by Lee and Ryan Howard on Monday, the Mets received some bad news. Ace lefty Johan Santana was shut down with bone chips in his left elbow. Surgery will correct the problem and Santana is expected to be ready for spring training. But any time a pitcher has surgery on his elbow, there is always some uncertainty surrounding his comeback. The Mets knew Santana was experiencing elbow soreness at the all-star break but let him continue to pitch. They had better hope he did no further damage.
The Mets' pitching staff has other holes. Mike Pelfrey has been slow to develop into the top-of-the-rotation starter that scouts thought he would be. John Maine (shoulder) is one of the many Mets to be struck down by injury this season. Stumbling Oliver Perez is headed for knee surgery after the Mets unwisely gave him a three-year, $36 million contract over the winter. Why would the Mets give such an inconsistent talent such big money? Maybe, just maybe, the Mets believed they needed another lefthanded arm after the Phils went lefty-heavy in their lineup with the signing of Raul Ibanez. Advantage, Phils.
With a thin farm system, the Mets could use some free-agent help. However, affording that help could be a problem this winter. Owner Fred Wilpon incurred huge losses - estimates are anywhere from $400 million to $700 million - at the hands of crooked investor Bernie Madoff, and there are rumblings that could affect the way Wilpon operates his baseball business, though he has denied that.
The Mets' bleak financial picture might be the reason that general manager Omar Minaya has survived. Minaya's work - from the Perez signing to clumsy news conferences that cast doubt on his leadership skills - may have earned a firing with other teams. But Minaya has a three-year contract extension, which kicks in next season. The Mets are going to make him work for his money.
Not all the Mets' problems have been Minaya's fault. The team was decimated by injuries to core talent. Beltran, Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes, David Wright, and Maine have all been hurt. Setup man J.J. Putz has missed significant time after requiring elbow surgery. (He had elbow problems with Seattle last year, but that didn't stop Minaya from trading for him.) Last week, the Mets had more than $80 million worth of salary on the disabled list. That's more than the payrolls of 13 teams.
It's been one of those seasons for the Mets, one of those seasons when their theme song should be: Meet the Mess.
The Phillies won't shed any tears about not having to chase the Mets this September.
There is a lot of truth in the article as well as nonsense. I love how all of a sudden the Phillies and their fans act like they're the damn Yankees. The team has won a total of 2 championships in 127 years. In 2007, the division was obviously handed to them via a historic collapse and were immediately swept out of the playoffs. For last year's accomplishment, I give them credit. The Mets once again chocked the division away, but the Phills played exceptional baseball in the playoffs and deserved the championship. So basically we are looking at one good year..congrats..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
There is a lot of truth in the article as well as nonsense. I love how all of a sudden the Phillies and their fans act like they're the damn Yankees. The team has won a total of 2 championships in 127 years. In 2007, the division was obviously handed to them via a historic collapse and were immediately swept out of the playoffs. For last year's accomplishment, I give them credit. The Mets once again chocked the division away, but the Phills played exceptional baseball in the playoffs and deserved the championship. So basically we are looking at one good year..congrats..
There is a lot of truth in the article as well as nonsense. I love how all of a sudden the Phillies and their fans act like they're the damn Yankees. The team has won a total of 2 championships in 127 years. In 2007, the division was obviously handed to them via a historic collapse and were immediately swept out of the playoffs. For last year's accomplishment, I give them credit. The Mets once again chocked the division away, but the Phills played exceptional baseball in the playoffs and deserved the championship. So basically we are looking at one good year..congrats..
1 good year!
you are witnessing a dynasty my friend.
I hope you are wrong ..but anyway, at this point and when the article was written in reference to missing the Mets, they had one good year in 2008, right? That's it..thus why some of this is so ridiculous..though the article does successfully point out the complete incompetence of Met ownership and their unfortunate losing season due to an unprecedented number of injuries..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
There is a lot of truth in the article as well as nonsense. I love how all of a sudden the Phillies and their fans act like they're the damn Yankees. The team has won a total of 2 championships in 127 years. In 2007, the division was obviously handed to them via a historic collapse and were immediately swept out of the playoffs. For last year's accomplishment, I give them credit. The Mets once again chocked the division away, but the Phills played exceptional baseball in the playoffs and deserved the championship. So basically we are looking at one good year..congrats..
1 good year!
you are witnessing a dynasty my friend.
I hope you are wrong ..but anyway, at this point and when the article was written in reference to missing the Mets, they had one good year in 2008, right? That's it..thus why some of this is so ridiculous..though the article does successfully point out the complete incompetence of Met ownership and their unfortunate losing season due to an unprecedented number of injuries..
Anyway, anyone else glad to see bobblehead David back on the field? Man, that football helmet is hideous ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
There is a lot of truth in the article as well as nonsense. I love how all of a sudden the Phillies and their fans act like they're the damn Yankees. The team has won a total of 2 championships in 127 years. In 2007, the division was obviously handed to them via a historic collapse and were immediately swept out of the playoffs. For last year's accomplishment, I give them credit. The Mets once again chocked the division away, but the Phills played exceptional baseball in the playoffs and deserved the championship. So basically we are looking at one good year..congrats..
1 good year!
you are witnessing a dynasty my friend.
I hope you are wrong ..but anyway, at this point and when the article was written in reference to missing the Mets, they had one good year in 2008, right? That's it..thus why some of this is so ridiculous..though the article does successfully point out the complete incompetence of Met ownership and their unfortunate losing season due to an unprecedented number of injuries..
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
god i love this game!
Yes, for those scoring at home...as you recall in 2007, the fighting Phills would not have had the opportunity to get swept in the playoffs if it weren't for the Mets losing 57 games in a row to the Marlins, Braves and the Nationals in historic fashion. -1..this year is not over -2..still equals 1 good season ..at least in reference to this article regarding missing the Mets..lol..
God this game is brutal..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
god i love this game!
I think calling what the Phillies did "winning the division in historic fashion" a complete (and probably deliberate) misrepresentation of what happened that season. Sure, the Phillies had a good team that year, but they didn't win the division in a historic fashion. It was the Mets that LOST the season in a historic fashion. And there is definitely an important (or maybe not so important) difference.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
god i love this game!
Yes, for those scoring at home...as you recall in 2007, the fighting Phills would not have had the opportunity to get swept in the playoffs if it weren't for the Mets losing 57 games in a row to the Marlins, Braves and the Nationals in historic fashion. -1..this year is not over -2..still equals 1 good season ..at least in reference to this article regarding missing the Mets..lol..
God this game is brutal..
just because you're bitter about your shitty team, you cannot discredit the phils for winning 17 of 18 or whatever it was down the stretch that year, stretch.
division championship = good season
world fucking champions = .........wait for it......here it comes..... great season.
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
god i love this game!
I think calling what the Phillies did "winning the division in historic fashion" a complete (and probably deliberate) misrepresentation of what happened that season. Sure, the Phillies had a good team that year, but they didn't win the division in a historic fashion. It was the Mets that LOST the season in a historic fashion. And there is definitely an important (or maybe not so important) difference.
the phillies won 9 out 10 at one point and 13-4 overall to close out the season...including a 3 game sweep of the, then division leading, mets in shea stadium.
when a team is that hot down the stretch and a team totally collapses like that, yes, i would say that be pretty historic on both ends. the phils were written off by everyone including that writer from the ny post, i believe, but they came out guns blazing in september. they were not just handed the nl east division crown like you guys make it out.......but it is fun to see all your frustrations about that year, 2 seasons removed from it though!
god what a useless back and forth this page has turned into. seriously who gives a shit what happened 2-3 years ago or even last year. this is turning into whose got the biggest cock contest. i understand it's really cool to see your team win a championship your lifetime. i feel your pain in having your team suck year after year but it's getting to the point beating of a dead horse. no I'm not jealous or anything, i could give a shit really what the phils do. enjoy your championship all you want but don't be a dick bout it and make the thread more boring than it already is. i hardly ever wanna post in here cause all i see is silly high school bickering.
i love how this bullpen sucks even when the season is dead. omar sure put together a stellar bullpen, :roll: .
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
god i love this game!
Yes, for those scoring at home...as you recall in 2007, the fighting Phills would not have had the opportunity to get swept in the playoffs if it weren't for the Mets losing 57 games in a row to the Marlins, Braves and the Nationals in historic fashion. -1..this year is not over -2..still equals 1 good season ..at least in reference to this article regarding missing the Mets..lol..
God this game is brutal..
just because you're bitter about your shitty team, you cannot discredit the phils for winning 17 of 18 or whatever it was down the stretch that year, stretch.
division championship = good season
world fucking champions = .........wait for it......here it comes..... great season.
come on dude. enough of the bitterness.
Just annoying how some of the fans act like their the Yankees now because they won one championship..if you want to take all the credit for 2007, go for it, but it's not reality..but not seeing the playoffs for over 15 years can definitely lower your standards for what's considered good..let it go already! Don't make me get pjhawks over here to tell you to stop talking about the damn Phillies in a Met thread ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
this is turning into whose got the biggest cock contest.
I'd win that competition, hands down ..anyway, hope everyone enjoys their holiday weekend..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Yes, for those scoring at home...as you recall in 2007, the fighting Phills would not have had the opportunity to get swept in the playoffs if it weren't for the Mets losing 57 games in a row to the Marlins, Braves and the Nationals in historic fashion. -1..this year is not over -2..still equals 1 good season ..at least in reference to this article regarding missing the Mets..lol..
God this game is brutal..
just because you're bitter about your shitty team, you cannot discredit the phils for winning 17 of 18 or whatever it was down the stretch that year, stretch.
division championship = good season
world fucking champions = .........wait for it......here it comes..... great season.
come on dude. enough of the bitterness.
Just annoying how some of the fans act like their the Yankees now because they won one championship..if you want to take all the credit for 2007, go for it, but it's not reality..but not seeing the playoffs for over 15 years can definitely lower your standards for what's considered good..let it go already! Don't make me get pjhawks over here to tell you to stop talking about the damn Phillies in a Met thread ..
the mets collapsed and the phils won 13 of 17 including a huge 3 game sweep at shea down the stretch. so you got a choke for the ages and a team playing about as hot as one can down the stretch. credit goes to both teams. i never said the phils should "take all the credit." that's ridiculous. takes two to tango my friend.
and, just so you know, we realize we dont have 26 championships. but its just a lot of fun to annoy met fans that way
god what a useless back and forth this page has turned into. seriously who gives a shit what happened 2-3 years ago or even last year. this is turning into whose got the biggest cock contest. i understand it's really cool to see your team win a championship your lifetime. i feel your pain in having your team suck year after year but it's getting to the point beating of a dead horse. no I'm not jealous or anything, i could give a shit really what the phils do. enjoy your championship all you want but don't be a dick bout it and make the thread more boring than it already is. i hardly ever wanna post in here cause all i see is silly high school bickering.
i love how this bullpen sucks even when the season is dead. omar sure put together a stellar bullpen, :roll: .
the mets collapsed and the phils won 13 of 17 including a huge 3 game sweep at shea down the stretch. so you got a choke for the ages and a team playing about as hot as one can down the stretch. credit goes to both teams. i never said the phils should "take all the credit." that's ridiculous. takes two to tango my friend.
and, just so you know, we realize we dont have 26 championships. but its just a lot of fun to annoy met fans that way
you going to the spectrum shows?
Yeah, my bitter ass will be at the Friday and Saturday shows..see you then..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
the mets collapsed and the phils won 13 of 17 including a huge 3 game sweep at shea down the stretch. so you got a choke for the ages and a team playing about as hot as one can down the stretch. credit goes to both teams. i never said the phils should "take all the credit." that's ridiculous. takes two to tango my friend.
and, just so you know, we realize we dont have 26 championships. but its just a lot of fun to annoy met fans that way
you going to the spectrum shows?
Yeah, my bitter ass will be at the Friday and Saturday shows..see you then..
I still feel that this ballpark must be cursed, because there is no other logical explanation for everything that has occurred on and off the field this season..but if 'the core' comes back healthy next season and a decent starting pitcher is added, we'll have a shot..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
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This 2009 nightmare of a season will never ever end. So now there is strong speculation that Reyes will undergo surgery in the near future..if it's the case, why the fuck would they wait so long?? We all knew the little wimp wouldn't be back this season, so why wait and jeopardize his chances of full recovery by next season? Morons..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
It blows me away that they could have waited this long if it was such a real option. The whole way the team is managed is absolutely impossible to understand.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Even if you think Reyes is all hype (and personally I don't), there's no way you can really believe the Mets are better w/out him than with him playing. The guy may not be the best in the game, but he certainly is a giant step up from whatever we have now or any other options that might be out there, and he is still one of the top 10 shorts stops (and I would argue higher) in the game right now.
i just don't like him. he's always getting hurt and his attitude sucks to the game. he's got all the tools in the world but doesn't have that killer instinct like a j-roll or jeter does. he's a great player and thats all he will ever be. reyes is in my top 10 ss.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Is the money situation so tight that they can't afford a strength and conditioning coach? I mean, WTF?? :shock:
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Fair enough. I'm also very disappointed w/Reyes, because it's true, he's got so much potential, but it's all going to waste.
I think on the fan they said that the Mets won like 60 games last year when Reyes scored a run..I don't like the guy either, but he is good when healthy..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
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On Baseball: Dear Mets, we miss you
By Jim Salisbury
Inquirer Baseball Columnist
September arrives this week and something feels different on the local baseball scene.
No New York Mets.
The Phillies entered the last two Septembers chasing their neighbors to the north, but this year the Mets are an afterthought in the National League East. The Phillies have a comfortable lead in the division, and barring what would be an embarrassing collapse, should win it for the third year in a row.
Have to be honest here: We miss the Mets.
Baseball came alive again in Philadelphia in 2007 and the Mets, who blew a late, seven-game lead, had a lot to do with it. The drama, excitement and entertainment value created by the Phillies' late surge that season was heightened by the Mets' misery. It's always fun for a team when its fiercest rival becomes its foil, and that's what happened for the Phillies the last two Septembers.
The fun continued last week in New York, when the Phils took three of four from the fourth-place Mets. It wasn't so much that the Phils won the series. It was how they won it: with Mets castoff Pedro Martinez on the mound; with the Mets hitting into a game-ending triple play; with Cliff Lee, a man who will have an impact on the division beyond this season, showing what a force he is on Monday afternoon.
During one of the inning breaks in that game, the Mets did one of those fan-interactive contests on the stadium video board. As one fan spoke on the video board, a handful of other fans could be seen in the background wearing paper bags on their heads.
The Phils and Mets play three more times this month, and that's it for the rivalry - until Jimmy Rollins or Carlos Beltran stirs something up in spring training. But, given the way things have gone for the Mets this season, one has to wonder how much of a factor they will be in the division in 2010.
After getting iced by Lee and Ryan Howard on Monday, the Mets received some bad news. Ace lefty Johan Santana was shut down with bone chips in his left elbow. Surgery will correct the problem and Santana is expected to be ready for spring training. But any time a pitcher has surgery on his elbow, there is always some uncertainty surrounding his comeback. The Mets knew Santana was experiencing elbow soreness at the all-star break but let him continue to pitch. They had better hope he did no further damage.
The Mets' pitching staff has other holes. Mike Pelfrey has been slow to develop into the top-of-the-rotation starter that scouts thought he would be. John Maine (shoulder) is one of the many Mets to be struck down by injury this season. Stumbling Oliver Perez is headed for knee surgery after the Mets unwisely gave him a three-year, $36 million contract over the winter. Why would the Mets give such an inconsistent talent such big money? Maybe, just maybe, the Mets believed they needed another lefthanded arm after the Phils went lefty-heavy in their lineup with the signing of Raul Ibanez. Advantage, Phils.
With a thin farm system, the Mets could use some free-agent help. However, affording that help could be a problem this winter. Owner Fred Wilpon incurred huge losses - estimates are anywhere from $400 million to $700 million - at the hands of crooked investor Bernie Madoff, and there are rumblings that could affect the way Wilpon operates his baseball business, though he has denied that.
The Mets' bleak financial picture might be the reason that general manager Omar Minaya has survived. Minaya's work - from the Perez signing to clumsy news conferences that cast doubt on his leadership skills - may have earned a firing with other teams. But Minaya has a three-year contract extension, which kicks in next season. The Mets are going to make him work for his money.
Not all the Mets' problems have been Minaya's fault. The team was decimated by injuries to core talent. Beltran, Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes, David Wright, and Maine have all been hurt. Setup man J.J. Putz has missed significant time after requiring elbow surgery. (He had elbow problems with Seattle last year, but that didn't stop Minaya from trading for him.) Last week, the Mets had more than $80 million worth of salary on the disabled list. That's more than the payrolls of 13 teams.
It's been one of those seasons for the Mets, one of those seasons when their theme song should be: Meet the Mess.
The Phillies won't shed any tears about not having to chase the Mets this September.
But we kind of miss them.
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
1 good year!
you are witnessing a dynasty my friend.
I hope you are wrong
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
And let's not forget Mr. Madoff
Yes, the article referred to him as well..
Anyway, anyone else glad to see bobblehead David back on the field? Man, that football helmet is hideous
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
i'd call winning the division in historic fashion in 07 a good season too. especially since it broke a 15 year playoff-less drought. so, if you're scoring at home, that is 1 good season, 1 great season, and one potentially great season 3/4ths of the way complete. and get ready for at least 2 more coming after that.
god i love this game!
Yes, for those scoring at home...as you recall in 2007, the fighting Phills would not have had the opportunity to get swept in the playoffs if it weren't for the Mets losing 57 games in a row to the Marlins, Braves and the Nationals in historic fashion. -1..this year is not over -2..still equals 1 good season
God this game is brutal..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
I think calling what the Phillies did "winning the division in historic fashion" a complete (and probably deliberate) misrepresentation of what happened that season. Sure, the Phillies had a good team that year, but they didn't win the division in a historic fashion. It was the Mets that LOST the season in a historic fashion. And there is definitely an important (or maybe not so important) difference.
just because you're bitter about your shitty team, you cannot discredit the phils for winning 17 of 18 or whatever it was down the stretch that year, stretch.
division championship = good season
world fucking champions = .........wait for it......here it comes..... great season.
come on dude. enough of the bitterness.
the phillies won 9 out 10 at one point and 13-4 overall to close out the season...including a 3 game sweep of the, then division leading, mets in shea stadium.
when a team is that hot down the stretch and a team totally collapses like that, yes, i would say that be pretty historic on both ends. the phils were written off by everyone including that writer from the ny post, i believe, but they came out guns blazing in september. they were not just handed the nl east division crown like you guys make it out.......but it is fun to see all your frustrations about that year, 2 seasons removed from it though!
i love how this bullpen sucks even when the season is dead. omar sure put together a stellar bullpen, :roll: .
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Just annoying how some of the fans act like their the Yankees now because they won one championship..if you want to take all the credit for 2007, go for it, but it's not reality..but not seeing the playoffs for over 15 years can definitely lower your standards for what's considered good..let it go already! Don't make me get pjhawks over here to tell you to stop talking about the damn Phillies in a Met thread
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
I'd win that competition, hands down
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
the mets collapsed and the phils won 13 of 17 including a huge 3 game sweep at shea down the stretch. so you got a choke for the ages and a team playing about as hot as one can down the stretch. credit goes to both teams. i never said the phils should "take all the credit." that's ridiculous. takes two to tango my friend.
and, just so you know, we realize we dont have 26 championships. but its just a lot of fun to annoy met fans that way
you going to the spectrum shows?
oh mets/cowboys fan. you're so cute.
Yeah, my bitter ass will be at the Friday and Saturday shows..see you then..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
god bless america
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'