Chris Cornell New Album officially makes him a sell out

DoovidLedVed

Has anyone else heard this terrible album? I bought tickets to see his tour in hopes of hearing Soundgarden, Audioslave, Temple of the Dog, and some of his solo stuff. With the purchase of the tickets i got a free download of his new album "Scream". It was produced by Timbaland and is one of the worst albums i have ever heard. It is not a rock album and is his attempt to hit the top 40 pop charts and maybe some dance clubs. I was embarrassed to have my windows down in my car while trying to listen to it. I can only assume people who appreciated his prior efforts can be nothing but disappointed by this attempt to reach the pop world.

greenmanny

Shouldn't this thread be on the "Other Music" board?

CW45684

greenmanny wrote:

Shouldn't this thread be on the "Other Music" board?

ideally, but in my opinion, there are some artists that are like cousins of Pearl Jam, and its ok to talk about them here, but I am sure that is not exactly an official rule of any sort.

DoovidLedVed

Temple of the Dog is mostly Pearl Jam. "Hunger Strike" is undeniable.

demetrios

CW45684 wrote:

greenmanny wrote:

Shouldn't this thread be on the "Other Music" board?

ideally, but in my opinion, there are some artists that are like cousins of Pearl Jam, and its ok to talk about them here, but I am sure that is not exactly an official rule of any sort.

Chris in many interview's has stated he has made 'all new' friends. Not sure if he still even has a relationship with his old friends. What he's done with this album is just aweful.

May god have mercy on his soul! :shock:

CW45684

I havent listened to the whole thing yet, I am sampling it on itunes right now, but I will be honest. I think this is less about trying to do something different and fresh, and more about trying to do something that is popular, sells records or makes Chris Cornell "famous" to a whole new crowd. I think it was done for the wrong reasons, and I think that is what is so sad about it. But obviously, I do not know Chris, he says it was done for the right reasons, but at the end of the day I just don't believe him, and either way, I still don't think it sounds very good.

VINNY GOOMBA

It's all a gimmick.

If this one hits, he's rich. If it tanks, his next album will be SON OF BADMOTORFINGER.

That's my prediction.

given2fly23

it's far from terrible if you listen to it without expecting to hear Slaves & Bulldozers.

the song Scream is great, better than anything from Carry On.

does any of it compare with Euphoria Morning? no. but I just dont see it as a slap in the face or a personal insult to his fans like so many people want to make it out to be. so he made an album with someone who most of us would never listen to. ok, so either give it a shot or dont.

why are people losing sleep over this without even listening to it without expectations?

Music For Rhinos

non-entity wrote:

it's far from terrible if you listen to it without expecting to hear Slaves & Bulldozers.

the song Scream is great, better than anything from Carry On.

does any of it compare with Euphoria Morning? no. but I just dont see it as a slap in the face or a personal insult to his fans like so many people want to make it out to be. so he made an album with someone who most of us would never listen to. ok, so either give it a shot or dont.

why are people losing sleep over this without even listening to it without expectations?

I agree with this. What it boils down to is if you like it, listen to it, if you don't like it, don't listen to it. Scream is Cornell doing something he's never done before. No it isn't typical but so what? If you take it as a group of songs they're not bad. Who cares if it's not Soundgarden or Audioslave part 2? For most if not all of the songs it's easy to write them off as commercial or as r&b-ish/hip-hop-ish but that's mainly because of the beats aspect of it, the way the drums are.

Everyone pretty much loves to hate this record and it's been the accepted norm from the start to jump down Cornell's throat and dislike the record greatly.

It's ONE record. It's not like he has completely crossed over. Wait for the next one. If the NEXT one is like Scream or worse, then that's one thing. But to completely chastise the man for ONE record...is ridiculous. You can't honestly tell me the greatness of his legacy (Soundgarden, Temple, Audioslave) is completely tarnished because of ONE batch of songs! God forbid the man should deviate from what is expected of him!

A lot of you are probably saying, "It's just that the record sucks!" Again, that's opinion. You can't argue taste. That's as simple as it can be boiled down to. I can see how people would dislike it. But I can also see how the songs would be greatly improved if they had been recorded in more of a rock style with a backing band as opposed to hip-hop-type beats. However, having said that, I don't mind it too much.

given2fly23

after 3 listens, I am really starting to dig the album. my favorites:

scream
enemy
never far away
get up

as I was driving home, I was thinking about what I was going to tell my brother when he would ask me what I thought. he is as big a PJ fan as me and we were both raised by 90's rock. I told him dont expect a Cornell album, it sounds more like a Prince album. he digs Prince, I'm not a fan, but that's the influence I hear. I expected it to take a few listens, and it has really grown on me.

yoke

I haven't heard it yet but I will give it a listen. I mean I can't really give him crap for trying something new(for him anyway). Honestly a lot of artists, photographers,painters, musician etc... all try new things every now and then to try and keep things fresh and to get new ideas.

However, if I think the album stinks then I won't listen to it but I won't judge it without hearing it first. Besides, my wife will probably like it and she will work out to it or something.

Red Mosquito75

DS105358 wrote:

Temple of the Dog is mostly Pearl Jam. "Hunger Strike" is undeniable.

originally temple of the dog was before eddie and was a cornell project

PJ Fan est. 1990

so i think i counted only 3 songs (from the itunes 30 sample play) that dont have some sort of computer generated hip hop beat...and of those three songs, 3 of them sound way too pappy for my liking

orig_long red

forget it. it's horrible. don't listen to it. don't hang out with people who listen to it. don't patronize businesses owned by people who listen to it.

it's one of worst pieces of crap i've ever heard.

Stephen Flow

i'm not sure what he's expecting here... to gain some new fans or alienate his old ones... i mean obviously money is an issue here... but the recession can't be effecting him this much?

wma11

long red wrote:

forget it. it's horrible. don't listen to it. don't hang out with people who listen to it. don't patronize businesses owned by people who listen to it.

it's one of worst pieces of crap i've ever heard.

X2

Music For Rhinos

If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

If you dislike it, that's your opinion.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that someone else can't listen to and enjoy it.

No one has the right to tell other people what and what not to listen to.

Stephen Flow

Music For Rhinos wrote:

If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

If you dislike it, that's your opinion.

This is the most obvious thing that someone has ever posted here.

I think people are just saying they don't like it... with good reason, it's trash, and that's my opinion...

i'm open minded as far as music goes, i do like some hip hop and stuff, but Scream is just bad.

Ledbetterman1O

I saw this coming years ago.

Music For Rhinos

Stephen Flow wrote:

Music For Rhinos wrote:

If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

If you dislike it, that's your opinion.

This is the most obvious thing that someone has ever posted here.

I think people are just saying they don't like it... with good reason, it's trash, and that's my opinion...

i'm open minded as far as music goes, i do like some hip hop and stuff, but Scream is just bad.

I question whether you would say this if the content of Scream had been released by a different artist other than Cornell...in other words, people are saying Scream is bad because Cornell did it and it's just like "Wtf" but if some other artist like a rapper or r&b artist had written the songs on Scream and released them it would be totally different; I doubt people who listened to it would think it was trash.

Given to...

I dont do hip hop, and havent been able to hang with much R&B either, but I love Chris Cornell for what he was/is and his voice is simply amazing.
Sure was surprised when word first dropped about him and Timbaland, and I had the same mantra as most on here, how Mr C was a big sellout and yada yada yada...
So I bought the Amazon MP3 for $2.99, figured I could do alot worse.
Listened to it once after it downloaded... hmmm, this dude went "somewhere happy"...
Listened to some NPR music program and they played one of the Loretta Lynn/Jack White tunes and it made me think about peole coming to terms and leaving thier comfort zone for awhile.
Takes a big set of balls to go against the grain for no other reason but self exploration. Got to thinking about all the great voices that have done something just a little different, a little un-expected, something the "critics" moan about to validate their own existance.

Gave "Scream" another listen on a quiet bus ride to work...
The man has an awesome voice. He does some amazing things with this Timbaland fellow, something he tried and is proud enough to offer it up to the masses... Kudus Chris!
Not my favorite work by any means, but damn, the stuff aint half bad if you overlook the petty sell out mentality.
What is it you do for work? Oh, you fuckin' sell-out!

PJ Fan est. 1990

this is what i predict will happen...some of the teens of today will be like "ooo i like this, who the hell is chris cornell?" they google image search him to find a middle aged white guy...they say "ew" and stop listening...

ok that was over generalizing, but i see that being a kind of awkward point for today's teens...like it would be awkward for a rock star from the 80's and 90's who isn't doing so great on selling solo records, becoming the new hit thing on your local top 10 hip hop/r&b station

High Fidelity 2000

Say what you will about Mr. Cornell, but I'm telling you, he WILL bring Sexy back!!

I don't need to listen to it... I listened to the handful 30-second clips on verizon (or whatever) website about 6 months ago. In fact, I thought this album had already come and gone. I saw Chris Cornell in concert in Nov. 2007 and as I said in another thread, I was surprisingly impressed. It was fuckin' rawk power. Little did I know, cheap electronic music was his next step. Good luck, man. Enjoy your new groupies "in the club."

Personally, me... I can't wait for the Vedder/T-Pain collaboration! Whoo, that is going to be some killer shit. Get the Auto Tune out and get ready to be floored.

Music For Rhinos

Alright, look...

It's not Cornell himself...based on what he has done throughout his career I don't think anyone can deny that he's an amazing singer, musician and a fairly good lyricist. So he made ONE ALBUM that is completely unlike anything he has ever done before and what could be considered an erratic step in direction. SO WHAT?!?

It's not really Scream itself either...if the songs on Scream had been written recorded and released by some rap or r&b artist I don't think it would be met with such poor reception.

It's the combination of the two that has a lot of people up in arms.

However, having said that, I still like Scream. Yes, that's right, I said it. His voice is great, the music on most (but not all of the songs) is relatively pleasing to my ears and the lyrics aren't terrible either. (Not every song...there are a few songs I don't like) but overall I like it.

superfuzz30

I dont think its bad at all...for what it is...and that is a pop album. I dont really have a problem with that, but i understand coming from one of the biggest rock bands ever that this is a stretch. However, his solo stuff got way more produced on the previous effort...still good just produced.

I think Scream is alright, i cant see myself listening to it all the time, but here and there, sure.

He's done way worse....like making a mockery of Hunger Strike with Likin Park....gah.

Fahka

That new album of his is rock blasphemy at best :roll:
Why do people feel the need to be uber relevant every other year...I mean if it were to cool people i would understand but he is catering to a bunch of dipshits which in my book, makes him him worse than the dip shits

Music For Rhinos

LeatherMandi wrote:

That new album of his is rock blasphemy at best :roll:
Why do people feel the need to be uber relevant every other year...I mean if it were to cool people i would understand but he is catering to a bunch of dipshits which in my book, makes him him worse than the dip shits

not really. he obviously wasnt going for rock. he is not catering to anyone. he is chris fucking cornell and can do whatever he wants.

LukinFan

greenmanny wrote:

Shouldn't this thread be on the "Other Music" board?

exactly. second one this week like this in the porch

Travelar

Trent Reznor obviously doesn't like it....

http://twitter.com/trent_reznor/status/1313265641

You know that feeling you get when somebody embarrasses themselves so badly YOU feel uncomfortable? Heard Chris Cornell's record? Jesus.

OffHeGoes132

This album is a fucking disgrace. I've been a Cornell fan for many years and I even enjoyed Carry On to an extent; although up till now it was his weakest album. For the longest time I even liked Cornell more than I did PJ. I get sick of people branding people who hate Scream as those "living in the past" and "resistant to change" and all that bullshit. This is not experimentation, it's called selling out, it's called trying to become relevant again, it's called $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Try out Mark Lanegan if you want to hear experimentation done right. Hell, even Pearl Jam for that matter. Only my opinion, of course.

Music For Rhinos

All these claims of selling out and it being all about money are ridiculous...

Artists sell out the second they sign a contract. It's ALWAYS about money whether you like the music or not.