A Third Jihad

Moonpig

What the OP needs to remember is that terrorism is a very very subjective term, and has been around for a long time, 9/11 didn't define it, nor did any middle eastern groups.

Depending on what side of the fence you sit on, you could be called a freedom fighter or a terrorist. It's too simple to say that these people are all maniacs and want us all dead. The real question that needs to be asked is why? Until anyone in power cares to ask that, I believe America has someone now who is brave enough to do just that, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of old.

Take my own country as an example, years of mismanagement from our colonial overlords ensured that there was a hotbed of insurgent activity culminating in a war of independence in the 1920's. Ireland and England scrapped with eachother for the bones of 800 years, a hell of a lot longer than the the US and any group.

For a long time to be an Irish person living in the UK, during the troubles, was a challange to say the least, and God help you if you wanted to use the airports in the UK. Certain elements of the British media portrayed the Irish in exactly the same lite as the OP's video, it only helped to fuel the fires of pure blind ignorance. The hypocrasy of calling someone brainwashed because they don't believe the same things you do, value what you do, dress like you do, I'm sure is not lost on a lot of people in here. They are no more brainwashed than you are and if you believe that they are out to get you (like the boogyman under your bed) for no other reason than because of where you are from, then it's time to sit down and educate yourself on their grievances and for the love of God, relax.

But you know what, the two sides had had enough. Each realised that neither side was going to win in any conventional sense, each recognised that the other side had its grievences. They sat down and spoke, and now we have peace, and power sharing between 2 sides who for generations slaughtered eachother on site. Now that's progress.

But here is the irony of it all, America was a catalyst for the current peace process, the Clinton administration ensured that both sides saw sense and put the past where it was meant to be. Time to take your own medicine, 800 years is a long time. Now, people who shot at eachother, and hated everything that each stood for, sit side by side, they may still disagree, but words will always be an acceptable substitute for bullets.

When we speak about this in terms of America versus "Islamist Extremists" then it is really time to sit down and take stock, catchy headlines might sell newspapers and up ratings, doesn't mean it's accurate. fast food might taste nice, doesn't mean its good for you.

Sorry about the rant, thats my 2 cents

Austicman

This threads been an excellent read.


Carry on.

flywallyfly

Moonpig wrote:

What the OP needs to remember is that terrorism is a very very subjective term, and has been around for a long time, 9/11 didn't define it, nor did any middle eastern groups.

Depending on what side of the fence you sit on, you could be called a freedom fighter or a terrorist. It's too simple to say that these people are all maniacs and want us all dead. The real question that needs to be asked is why? Until anyone in power cares to ask that, I believe America has someone now who is brave enough to do just that, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of old.

Take my own country as an example, years of mismanagement from our colonial overlords ensured that there was a hotbed of insurgent activity culminating in a war of independence in the 1920's. Ireland and England scrapped with eachother for the bones of 800 years, a hell of a lot longer than the the US and any group.

For a long time to be an Irish person living in the UK, during the troubles, was a challange to say the least, and God help you if you wanted to use the airports in the UK. Certain elements of the British media portrayed the Irish in exactly the same lite as the OP's video, it only helped to fuel the fires of pure blind ignorance. The hypocrasy of calling someone brainwashed because they don't believe the same things you do, value what you do, dress like you do, I'm sure is not lost on a lot of people in here. They are no more brainwashed than you are and if you believe that they are out to get you (like the boogyman under your bed) for no other reason than because of where you are from, then it's time to sit down and educate yourself on their grievances and for the love of God, relax.

But you know what, the two sides had had enough. Each realised that neither side was going to win in any conventional sense, each recognised that the other side had its grievences. They sat down and spoke, and now we have peace, and power sharing between 2 sides who for generations slaughtered eachother on site. Now that's progress.

But here is the irony of it all, America was a catalyst for the current peace process, the Clinton administration ensured that both sides saw sense and put the past where it was meant to be. Time to take your own medicine, 800 years is a long time. Now, people who shot at eachother, and hated everything that each stood for, sit side by side, they may still disagree, but words will always be an acceptable substitute for bullets.

When we speak about this in terms of America versus "Islamist Extremists" then it is really time to sit down and take stock, catchy headlines might sell newspapers and up ratings, doesn't mean it's accurate. fast food might taste nice, doesn't mean its good for you.

Sorry about the rant, thats my 2 cents

Very well said. :!:

Motha Judson

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