A Third Jihad

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  • CB206820
    CB206820 Posts: 105
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    CB206820 wrote:
    Radical Islam IS a serious problem.

    Any religion, taken to the extreme, causes serious issues. Jesus Camp, while not this extreme, shows that Christians aren't that far off of this either.

    Religion is a very troublesome thing to me.

    I strongly disagree. There are some who have a severely distorted views but you dont see them decapitating people and blowing up innocent people
    I guess you've never heard of a Christian bombing an Abortion clinic... That would be blowing up innocent people.... Many did this in the name of god...
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    CB206820 wrote:
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    CB206820 wrote:
    Radical Islam IS a serious problem.

    Any religion, taken to the extreme, causes serious issues. Jesus Camp, while not this extreme, shows that Christians aren't that far off of this either.

    Religion is a very troublesome thing to me.

    I strongly disagree. There are some who have a severely distorted views but you dont see them decapitating people and blowing up innocent people
    I guess you've never heard of a Christian bombing an Abortion clinic... That would be blowing up innocent people.... Many did this in the name of god...
    or even the invasion of Iraq...

    Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."

    -referring to the invasion of Iraq. so that's hundreds of thousands of innocent people that the US 'blew up' in the name of religion and god.
  • Motha Judson
    Motha Judson Posts: 104
    Do you have a link to that?
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    CB206820 wrote:
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    CB206820 wrote:
    Radical Islam IS a serious problem.

    Any religion, taken to the extreme, causes serious issues. Jesus Camp, while not this extreme, shows that Christians aren't that far off of this either.

    Religion is a very troublesome thing to me.

    I strongly disagree. There are some who have a severely distorted views but you dont see them decapitating people and blowing up innocent people
    I guess you've never heard of a Christian bombing an Abortion clinic... That would be blowing up innocent people.... Many did this in the name of god...


    when was the last time you heard of an abortion clinic being blown up? it's been a while
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    hey Commy.. I never said a damn thing about Iraq, and just so you know I think we shouldn't be there.
  • Motha Judson
    Motha Judson Posts: 104
    Commy wrote:
    Motha Judson wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    So now this is a War on Radical Islam? I guess 1.2 million innocent Iraqis, atleast half of whom were children, were in reality pursuing to spread sharia law to the rest of the world.

    Radical Islam is not the problem. Our aggressive policies is what creates it. Think about it (I know I'm asking a lot, but work with me here), when did radical Islam ACTUALLY become a problem (if ever, really)? Was it before our aggressive and interfering policies with the Middle East? Read a book sometime, maybe you'll learn a thing or two more than your online propaganda.

    Thank you
    that was directed at you, what are you thanking him for?

    You too, thanks.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Religion....when will we get over this outdated means of control and yearning to feel special. Once we do, as humans, we'll end this hate.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Motha Judson wrote:
    Do you have a link to that?

    I garantee a prime motivation for many Christians in going into Iraq and not concerning themselves with the killing of Muslims is the same hate shown in this clip. Same crap.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited March 2009
    Commy wrote:
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    So now this is a War on Radical Islam? I guess 1.2 million innocent Iraqis, atleast half of whom were children, were in reality pursuing to spread sharia law to the rest of the world.

    Radical Islam is not the problem. Our aggressive policies is what creates it. Think about it (I know I'm asking a lot, but work with me here), when did radical Islam ACTUALLY become a problem (if ever, really)? Was it before our aggressive and interfering policies with the Middle East? Read a book sometime, maybe you'll learn a thing or two more than your online propaganda.
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    so you can use the smilie button...do you have anything to offer? outlaw is right on with all of this.

    Right on? sure Commy what ever you say ......
    I don't need to add anything .if you dumb fucks dont get it by now you never will. Maybe we'll get attacked again and you loose a loved one and maybe then you'll get it but I hope it doesn't come to that.
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  • Motha Judson
    Motha Judson Posts: 104
    This thread has gone off topic, the movie just points out that this is a reality, not something fabricated.

    Lets back off a little here, there is no reason to turn this into a zoo.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Motha Judson wrote:
    This thread has gone off topic, the movie just points out that this is a reality, not something fabricated.

    Lets back off a little here, there is no reason to turn this into a zoo.

    But arent we dealing with animals? :lol:
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Motha Judson wrote:
    This thread has gone off topic, the movie just points out that this is a reality, not something fabricated.

    Lets back off a little here, there is no reason to turn this into a zoo.
    Hasn't gone off topic...its about religious extremists right...then you have to include all religious extremists as they are all related and driven by same fear.

    Cruised through central Texas listening to some religious stations...freakin scary.... :evil: :evil:
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    Motha Judson wrote:
    This thread has gone off topic, the movie just points out that this is a reality, not something fabricated.

    Lets back off a little here, there is no reason to turn this into a zoo.

    But arent we dealing with animals? :lol:

    Yep the human animal.....so simple.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • Motha Judson
    Motha Judson Posts: 104
    callen wrote:
    Motha Judson wrote:
    This thread has gone off topic, the movie just points out that this is a reality, not something fabricated.

    Lets back off a little here, there is no reason to turn this into a zoo.
    Hasn't gone off topic...its about religious extremists right...then you have to include all religious extremists as they are all related and driven by same fear.

    Cruised through central Texas listening to some religious stations...freakin scary.... :evil: :evil:

    True, but I don't see any Texas extremist groups killing people in Spain, UK, India, Pakistan, Somalia, Darfur, and all over SW and SE Asia. You can make a comparison for any religion, but none have as much ability, nor have demonstrated that ability with in recent history than violent Islamic Extremist.

    I understand that many of you hate your parents for making you go to church as a kid and now hate any form of Religion, but don't compare it, its not the same now.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Motha Judson wrote:

    True, but I don't see any Texas extremist groups killing people in Spain, UK, India, Pakistan, Somalia, Darfur, and all over SW and SE Asia. You can make a comparison for any religion, but none have as much ability, nor have demonstrated that ability with in recent history than violent Islamic Extremist.

    I understand that many of you hate your parents for making you go to church as a kid and now hate any form of Religion, but don't compare it, its not the same now.



    actually that's not true at all. there are Texas extremists. more dangerous than al qaeda. its called the Bush family, a far more dangerous religious extremist.

    God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

    Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."

    how many died on 9/11?
    how many died in Iraq? Afghanistan? Gaza?
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    What about the Christian fundamentalists who support Israel's actions, which include killing thousands of innocent Palestinians? It's driven by God... can't that be the same logic?

    Also, I like how many people ignore the points brought up about Radical Islam and respond with things like "thanks" rather than logical arguments that support your sensationalistic claims.

    Have fun spreading hate - it's the only way to stop hate.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Oh, and lest I forget the argument of "when was the last time we heard of an abortion clinic being blown up?"

    who the fuck cares? it happened, didn't it?

    and no, religion is NOT solely the problem. People who simply make the argument that without religion, we'd be a peaceful people have no substance to support such an assertion. By facts, it has been a minority group, usually, who interprets or sees religion as something that supports such actions, but it's never really backed up with anything anyway. However, when the US government gives Arabs and Muslims reasons to support the terrorists' war against them, what can we really say? Perhaps if the US government weren't so ridiculous with the way they approached the Middle East with such aggressive and dehumanizing policies, we wouldn't see such complicity among Middle Easterners in regards to retaliation against the occupier. Just a thought - rational people tend to have those.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    _outlaw wrote:
    Oh, and lest I forget the argument of "when was the last time we heard of an abortion clinic being blown up?"

    who the fuck cares? it happened, didn't it?

    and no, religion is NOT solely the problem. People who simply make the argument that without religion, we'd be a peaceful people have no substance to support such an assertion. By facts, it has been a minority group, usually, who interprets or sees religion as something that supports such actions, but it's never really backed up with anything anyway. However, when the US government gives Arabs and Muslims reasons to support the terrorists' war against them, what can we really say? Perhaps if the US government weren't so ridiculous with the way they approached the Middle East with such aggressive and dehumanizing policies, we wouldn't see such complicity among Middle Easterners in regards to retaliation against the occupier. Just a thought - rational people tend to have those.
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    I agree. the number one cause of terrorism in the world is US foreign policy.
  • Motha Judson
    Motha Judson Posts: 104
    I don't care what religion it is...the sole problem is the violent nature of it, killing civilians. They want to fight it out, fight the military.

    Commy...your pushing it with that comparison...thats a reach.

    Lets be honest here, none of you give a fuck about the people in Palestine or Iraq, you use it as a jabbing point to poke the US in the eye. If you really cared about human suffering, you would point out about all the needless waste of life all over the world. I never here any one talk about Chechnya, or Darfur, or Somalia here. Why? Because Israel and the US isn't openly involved in those areas for you to bitch about. You just use it as weak point to paint the US as an evil government hell bent on destroying innocent lives.

    Mean while, you live in the same country that apprently does all these atrocities but you do nothing but bitch, or to stop it? I couldn't live in a country that I thought was inherently evil.
  • Motha Judson
    Motha Judson Posts: 104
    You know the same group of people you defend would have no problem cutting your head off and posting it on the internet just because you're American and Non-Muslim?

    I have a hard time seeing eye to eye here.

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